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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #135 on: May 09, 2022, 05:03:54 am »
And Tophe,
Let's not forget that even Yanks don't always get sarcasm, either. And some get grossly offended by it  :rolleyes: :o :banghead:
Uh, I was not laughing at someone, just understanding someone has far higher knowledge than me ;) <_<
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #136 on: May 09, 2022, 05:19:05 am »
And Tophe,
Let's not forget that even Yanks don't always get sarcasm, either. And some get grossly offended by it  :rolleyes: :o :banghead:
Uh, I was not laughing at someone, just understanding someone has far higher knowledge than me ;) <_<
I know, my cousins, the Brits, Kiwis and 'Roos forgot about their American cousins who are also fluent in sarcasm, lol
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #137 on: May 09, 2022, 05:44:32 am »
Sarcasm IS the highest form of wit.


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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #138 on: May 09, 2022, 06:52:16 am »
Sarcasm IS the highest form of wit.

Very much so  :thumbsup:

Just wondering if the tails should be cantered outwards a tad ?
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #139 on: May 09, 2022, 07:09:21 am »
For practical reasons, I'd have them outboard of the exhausts - one engine fire and you'd lose half your control, and flying wings are very unstable to start with.
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #140 on: May 09, 2022, 07:43:22 am »
For practical reasons, I'd have them outboard of the exhausts - one engine fire and you'd lose half your control, and flying wings are very unstable to start with.

Personally, I'd also move them further outboard. And at high angles of attack they would be completely blocked off the airstream through the wing body? Another idea: cut then in half and mount one piece above and the other below the wing? Could also be used as tail bumpers?

The leftovers remind me of a precursor if the TSR.2. IIRC there was a D.H. design that had a very Victor-ish fuselage, swept wings and a pair of engines in nacelles under the ings, plus a T-tail. Your rests could qualify for a 1:72 in this class, too!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #141 on: May 09, 2022, 11:14:43 am »
Pointy nose may work with Vulcan wings.
I have found art with the Vulcan turned flying wing:
https://www.deviantart.com/tomzoo/art/VulcanX-Sketches-490152735
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #142 on: May 09, 2022, 05:43:59 pm »
The leftovers remind me of a precursor if the TSR.2. IIRC there was a D.H. design that had a very Victor-ish fuselage, swept wings and a pair of engines in nacelles under the ings, plus a T-tail. Your rests could qualify for a 1:72 in this class, too!  :thumbsup:

It was the De Havilland submission to GOR.339.  Fuselage is nothing like a victor and is likely the DH117 (F155 submission) with the engines moved under the wings.
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #143 on: May 10, 2022, 12:47:55 am »
I know the one Dizzy refers to but a couple of hundred miles away from my Buttler book so canít comment on the project identity. 

It has an almost airliner-style fuselage, low-set delta wing and IIRC four podded jets.

Lee is correct in saying that the fuselage isnít Victor-like, but there is a passing resemblance to the design in Fredís photo courtesy of the camera angle.

EDIT:  See HP99 drawing posted by Mossie at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=foub7bdpi3bfr0o177dpo0dkt3&topic=12733.15.  Not the delta I am looking for (as Obi Wan might say) but thereís a slight resemblance to the Victor.

EDIT 2: Avro 721 is the one Iím thinking of, see https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/b-126t-or-314-or-324-low-altitude-bomber-designs.34020/
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #144 on: May 20, 2022, 04:59:08 am »
Sanding, sanding, sanding, sanding, sanding...

Running low on wet'n'dry.

Note to self, consider sanding off raised detail before assembling model.
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #145 on: May 20, 2022, 11:50:33 am »
Ill send ya some Fred..ive got crap loads of wet n dry..everything from 60 to 2500 grit  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #146 on: May 20, 2022, 01:58:24 pm »
Don't bother with wet and dry, get some flexible foam backed sanding pads, of the type you get in auto repair stores.  But get them via ebay as offcuts.  A few pounds or Aus Dollars should get you a small cushion size pack that will last a good ten years or so.  I've done that for the last few years.
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #147 on: May 21, 2022, 03:46:19 am »
I'd agree with Lee there, those pads are the business for getting rid of rivets, and for the heavy duty part of the dreaded PSR.

I still use small bits of wet-and-dry for getting into nooks and crannies where the pads won't reach, but otherwise it's pads every time for me.
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #148 on: May 21, 2022, 04:14:27 am »
I have some pads, which admittedly have seen better days.  Although worn out pads are great for a final polish.
I like to use a combination of sanding sticks, wet'n'dry (with and without a wooden block), and sanding pads.

Put on a guide coat of primer today.  Needs more filler and there is raised detail I missed.
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Re: Handley Page Harpy.
« Reply #149 on: May 21, 2022, 12:44:27 pm »
I like Lee's idea about the off cuts as sanding pads aint cheap here (nothing is really) and i do use em on cars or trucks i work on here ..when there work these days  :lol:
The only issue ive got is that bloody mail thingy..takes so long to get stuff and im inpatient and theres the annoyance of it not turning up at all.
I do use my buggered pads for the same thing as Fred..great for finishing work..on both models and 1/1 scale stuff too  ;D
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Over kill is often very understated .
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