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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2010, 04:37:56 am »
Crew comfort???  Nyet comrade, you forget yourself!!!  Comfort is an captalist obscenity & would make our Gloroius Navy weak!  We would not be Soviet without struggle, da?  Besides, all soft furnishings have been requisitioned by the Politburo....

I was purely thinking the Hind A cabin would suit a naval version better from a point of view of crew visibility & general utility.  The armoured bathtub of later models would only be needed for the assault variant, the fixed guns of the Hind F might be useful for this too.  Extra range could be obtained by a tank in the cabin, on hard points for certain missions or possibly mounted to the fuselage.
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #76 on: December 07, 2010, 02:46:40 pm »
Ha....! I should have known better.......agree with your observations comrade...!!!
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2010, 03:10:28 pm »
If I could get the decals, I would make a British Police version, and have transit vans towing long caravans (pikeys) as kill markings down one side, and chav'd up Citroen Saxo's on the other  :wacko:
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #78 on: December 07, 2010, 03:26:13 pm »
Awesome....!!! What main colour would you do.....?? Like the Met I99....dark blue and yellow....? I have thought about a Met Hind along with some form of 8 wheel APC type vehicle.....Stryker..? Gang/Drug wars escalate to silly level....!!!!
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #79 on: December 08, 2010, 05:11:56 am »
I was purely thinking the Hind A cabin would suit a naval version better from a point of view of crew visibility & general utility.  The armoured bathtub of later models would only be needed for the assault variant, the fixed guns of the Hind F might be useful for this too.  Extra range could be obtained by a tank in the cabin, on hard points for certain missions or possibly mounted to the fuselage.

I think you are right about the Hind A. The fixed guns on the Hind F would be ideal for supporting amphibious  assault. You could even uprate the guns.  :wacko:

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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #80 on: December 09, 2010, 02:40:00 am »
No such thing as too much firepower!!!  How would you upgrade it?  Would it be possible to fit another pair of 30mm on the other side?  Maybe replace them with a single gattling type cannon, if the Soviets have such a thing?
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #81 on: December 09, 2010, 03:14:31 am »
Simon,

The Soviets developed a multi-barrel cannon for the MiG-27.  There were two variants deployed: the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-23 and GSh-6-30, the latter replacing the former on the MiG-27M.

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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #82 on: December 09, 2010, 03:32:25 am »
Hmm, just looked them up.  The Gsh-6-30 is perhaps on the heavy side, but the Gsh-6-23 is promising.  Might be useful if you need rate of fire over calibre, although it'd probably exhaust it's ammo quickly.  Short bursts would be the order of the day.
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #83 on: December 09, 2010, 06:39:19 am »
Just fit a great big ammo bin in the cabin. :wacko:
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #84 on: December 09, 2010, 07:12:04 pm »
Hmm, just looked them up.  The Gsh-6-30 is perhaps on the heavy side, but the Gsh-6-23 is promising.  Might be useful if you need rate of fire over calibre, although it'd probably exhaust it's ammo quickly.  Short bursts would be the order of the day.

"Short bursts" are ALWAYS the "order of the day" when using heavy, automatic weapons.   Only Hollywood uses long bursts.   If you fire a long burst, you will encounter cooling problems which may lead to a "cook off" (spontaneous firing as soon as the round enters the chamber before the breech block is locked) or much worse, you could "burn out" the barrel - removing the rifling. 
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #85 on: December 10, 2010, 05:17:16 am »
Well, yeah, I meant 'shorter' bursts.  I've seen A-10's do bursts several seconds long, although usually they were around a second.  I'm guessing it wouldn't take many of those longer bursts to empty the magazine.
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #86 on: December 10, 2010, 05:46:08 am »
The Somilan decals someone was sending me never showed up.  Must have got caught up in Customs someplace.  I have the old AMT E version which I planned on doing for the Talk Like a Pirate GB but was going to do it in an Anti-Pirate configuration :wacko:.  Storyline was going to be something along the lines that the other world's countries have provided support to a new government as long as they work on stopping the Piracy going on from their country.  Think the D version would be better for this with the gun turret for targeting small boats but that isn't the version I have so...
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #87 on: December 10, 2010, 11:03:22 am »
The next model I will be working on will 98% be a Hind......it will be configured as a CSAR helo...with it will be its escorts.....but what?? I was thinking first of KA 50's.....a pair buzzing around while the Hind picks up.......but I like the Mi 28 as well....so the Hind picking up and a pair of Havocs buzzing around WITH a Hokum flitting around here n there......I am just interested in the pick up site and surrounding area.....not interested in ranges and stuff....these will be a 'What if...??' RAF CSAR troop......probably the wrong thread to post on but....this is for lovers of the Big Ugly Bird... :wub:.....so I thought you would be sympathetic.....any ideas welcomed... :thumbsup:..H

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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #88 on: December 10, 2010, 11:47:44 am »
Ka-50s sound good (don't they always?), with a Ka-52 as a mission control bird.  :thumbsup: Apparently that's how the Russians intend to use them.
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Re: Mi-24 Hind
« Reply #89 on: December 10, 2010, 02:06:23 pm »
Mmmmmmm...yes Moritz.......can see where you are coming from there........how about two KA 50's with a Mi 28 control bird.....?
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