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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *weapons bay*
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2019, 06:39:37 am »
Bombs a neat fit  :thumbsup:
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *weapons bay*
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2019, 02:42:34 pm »
Thinking about a bit of IR suppression.  Not sure if it will make it on the final build, but the packaging tube for Krazy glue, my go to superglue, is a good fit. 





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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *weapons bay*
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2019, 01:54:34 am »
Quote from: sandiego89 on November 29, 2019, 02:42:34 pm
Thinking about a bit of IR suppression.  Not sure if it will make it on the final build, but the packaging tube for Krazy glue, my go to superglue, is a good fit. 


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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *weapons bay*
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2019, 03:00:02 am »
Love the IR suppressor idea. If emulating the F-117As performance, reheat wouldn't really be needed all that much. May I suggest some kind of small blade antenna on the spine for secure comms/datalink/telemetry with their stealthy cousins?
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *weapons bay*
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2019, 04:55:41 pm »
Maybe the nose needs something. I made a RTV mold and cast a few resin F-102 noses to experiment.



 
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *weapons bay*
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2019, 05:28:16 pm »
Quote from: sandiego89 on December 01, 2019, 04:55:41 pm
Maybe the nose needs something. I made a RTV mold and cast a few resin F-102 noses to experiment.



Just thinking that it wouldn't really need a radar, but would at least need to look like it had one. What it would need for F-117A training purposes is a FLIR.
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *rhinoplasty?*
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2019, 12:38:06 pm »
Quote from: salt6 on December 02, 2019, 07:52:46 am
I'd suggest looking at the Viggen for your IR suppression ideas.

Thanks Salt, the Viggen tailpipe is indeed an elegant piece of engineering - more for thrust reverse I believe but likely had some IR reduction benefits as well. I was thinking of something less sophisticated, like the Israeli A-4 tail pipe extensions or the U-2 “sugar scoop”.

Did a few Mirages or Cheetahs have extended tail pipes, or am I dreaming that? Others?
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *rhinoplasty?*
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2019, 04:17:51 pm »
The A-4's tailpipe wasn't IR suppression but protection to the engine from IR missiles.  The Israelis found that IR missiles would litterally home in on the engine exhaust and often damage but not destroy the engine, so they thought making the missile explode further away would given them some measure of protection.
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *rhinoplasty?*
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2019, 06:05:25 am »
Very cool. Nice work on the new noses. One of these days I'm going to have to try that resin copy thing !

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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *rhinoplasty?*
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2019, 03:49:31 pm »
Quote from: Captain Canada on December 03, 2019, 06:05:25 am
Very cool. Nice work on the new noses. One of these days I'm going to have to try that resin copy thing !

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Thank you. I was very intimidated to try my first stabs at RTV mold making and then casting with 2 part resin, but now that I have done a few my confidence is growing and I am hooked. Simple shapes like this F-102 radome just require a one piece mold that maybe took me 10 minutes to glue together some scratch styrene into a square shape box to create the mold. Stuffed some play dough to fill the radome then poured the RTV mold material over the radome. Let sit overnight, then popped the radome out. Now had the mold, and could pop out resin copies all day long (30 second mix time, pour, then I let sit for a few hours).   

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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *nose*
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2019, 10:36:05 am »
Nose work.  The F-117 had two targeting/designating FLIR's, one in the nose and one under the nose, these were first trialed on the F-102's used in the development program. 



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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *nose*
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2019, 07:44:27 pm »
Thanks for the tips ! I mean noses. No, tips.... :thumbsup:
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *nose*
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2019, 02:22:58 pm »
Black, but will have a bit of disruption in the scheme....

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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *paint*
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2019, 03:39:05 am »
I cannot help it, but this thing cries for Red Stars...  ;)
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Re: F-102, stealth fighter "cover" and support *paint*
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2019, 05:06:50 am »
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on December 15, 2019, 03:39:05 am

I cannot help it, but this thing cries for Red Stars...  ;)


Because it's in black?  ;D
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