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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2015, 06:22:05 am »
I'm wondering what practicable weaponry - other then the spar torpedo which has always made me go  :blink:- could be used by the Huntley and her kind ?
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2015, 10:11:59 am »
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 17, 2015, 06:11:35 am
Didn't they find the Hunley not so long ago?

Yes, but there's a bit of a debate about it. They definitely found it in 1995, but one guy claims he found it in 1970 and has a lot of evidence to back it up. They raised it in 2004 and managed to identify all the crew (only the CO's name was definitely know from records) and gave them all a full military funeral.
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2015, 10:15:08 am »
Quote from: NARSES2 on January 17, 2015, 06:22:05 am
I'm wondering what practicable weaponry - other then the spar torpedo which has always made me go  :blink:- could be used by the Huntley and her kind ?

The spar torpedo might have been what killed her. Theories vary, but one likely one is that it went off too soon while the sub was too close, and the shockwave knocked the crew unconscious. Given that toerpedoes hadn't yet been developed, about the only option was some kind of "stealthy" system for attaching an explosive charge to the ship.
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2015, 06:14:55 pm »
Quote from: NARSES2 on January 17, 2015, 06:22:05 am
I'm wondering what practicable weaponry - other then the spar torpedo which has always made me go  :blink:- could be used by the Huntley and her kind ?

At the time - not much.

However, in 1868 the 1st compressed-air powered Whitehead torpedo had been developed.

This torpedo evolved & was almost the only torpedo type available to both sides during WW1.
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2015, 09:35:40 pm »
There are some CGI images of the inside of the Hunley with it's crew in place on this page: http://www.vernianera.com/Hunley/reconstruction.html

It was MUCH smaller than the contemporary drawing published in reference books suggests! I literally had cold sweats and shakes looking at these. I suspect I'd have difficulties staying in this thing for more than a few minutes if it was up on blocks in a museum. Underwater? No way on this green Earth. Anyone who got in this thing had a whole other kind of courage. :blink: :bow:
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2015, 07:39:01 am »
Have to agree with you mate.

I've been on an ex RN WWII sub in a museum and that was bad enough, but this ???
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2015, 07:52:04 am »
The interior of an X craft (having a go at the Tirpitz  or cutting cables in Singapore) must have been horrendous too!
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2015, 09:29:19 am »
There's an X-Craft at Duxford (of all places) and although you can't actually get in it, they've cut it in half so you can stand on the centre line and look inside. They must spent their entire time folded double in there!
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2015, 04:27:49 pm »
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 17, 2015, 06:11:35 am
Didn't they find the Hunley not so long ago?

Raised in 2000. As stated, who found it (Spence vs. Cussler) and when (1970 vs. 1995) still disputed.  ;D

Spar torpedoes and mines were the only available weapons.
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2015, 07:32:31 am »
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 18, 2015, 04:27:49 pm

Spar torpedoes and mines were the only available weapons.

Yup which were slightly more survivable then the "brace and bit" used in the American War of Independence. Was that barrel sub called the Turtle ? Mind you after failing to drill into the RN ship (copper bottomed) the crew member survived I seem to remember
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2015, 07:47:31 am »
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Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 18, 2015, 04:27:49 pm

Spar torpedoes and mines were the only available weapons.

Yup which were slightly more survivable then the "brace and bit" used in the American War of Independence. Was that barrel sub called the Turtle ? Mind you after failing to drill into the RN ship (copper bottomed) the crew member survived I seem to remember

Yes it was, and yes he did; used only once, during the Battle of New York.
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2015, 02:30:14 pm »
The 1/144th Blackburn Beverly is in the test shot stage and the owner has said if someone can supply decent drawings he'll do an Armstrong Whitworth Argosy! http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234973041-blackburn-beverley-1144/page-2

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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2015, 04:44:29 pm »
Quote from: Green Dragon on March 17, 2015, 02:30:14 pm
The 1/144th Blackburn Beverly is in the test shot stage and the owner has said if someone can supply decent drawings he'll do an Armstrong Whitworth Argosy! http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234973041-blackburn-beverley-1144/page-2

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Deep joy!  ;D

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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2015, 04:57:21 pm »
Beverley! :wub:

Quote from: Green Dragon on March 17, 2015, 02:30:14 pm
The 1/144th Blackburn Beverly is in the test shot stage and the owner has said if someone can supply decent drawings he'll do an Armstrong Whitworth Argosy! http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234973041-blackburn-beverley-1144/page-2

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He's also asking for drawings of the Belfast. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: Micro-Mir
« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2015, 05:41:45 am »
OH HELL YES!!!  :drink: :party: :cheers:

I need to start collecting 1/144th scale muzzle-loading cannons don't I?  ;)

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