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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #120 on: July 17, 2019, 03:25:29 am »
Following on from TomZ's More and Less DC3s it has struck me that if one built an Me321/323 with more than 0 but less then 6 engines it would be both more AND less engines in one aircraft.
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #121 on: July 17, 2019, 05:57:25 am »

Following on from TomZ's More and Less DC3s it has struck me that if one built an Me321/323 with more than 0 but less then 6 engines it would be both more AND less engines in one aircraft.
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2019, 06:26:29 am »

Following on from TomZ's More and Less DC3s it has struck me that if one built an Me321/323 with more than 0 but less then 6 engines it would be both more AND less engines in one aircraft.
 ;)


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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2019, 08:24:51 am »
Another silly idea.  ;D
Should I take a drakkar, I suppose the oars could be considerd as ONE motive unity.
If I add an outboard motor, the combo should be considered valid or this GB.
And those poor vikings would arrive less tired to the villages to plunder.  :wacko:
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2019, 08:43:38 am »
Another silly idea.  ;D
Should I take a drakkar, I suppose the oars could be considerd as ONE motive unity.
If I add an outboard motor, the combo should be considered valid or this GB.
And those poor vikings would arrive less tired to the villages to plunder.  :wacko:

As Scandinavians, would Vikings not use Volvo Penta inboard engines?
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #125 on: July 17, 2019, 10:04:45 am »
Another silly idea.  ;D
Should I take a drakkar, I suppose the oars could be considerd as ONE motive unity.
If I add an outboard motor, the combo should be considered valid or this GB.
And those poor vikings would arrive less tired to the villages to plunder.  :wacko:

As Scandinavians, would Vikings not use Volvo Penta inboard engines?

Not necessarily.

Ole Evinrude was born in Norway, as was Finn T. Irgens who, working with the Johnson brothers,
designed the first Johnson outboards.

AB Pentaverken introduced their first outboard, the U2, in 1923 twelve years before becoming
a Volvo subsidiary.

There is a strong Vikings to outboards connection.  ;D :thumbsup:
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #126 on: July 17, 2019, 08:24:41 pm »
Another particularly interesting layout to serve as inspiration can be found in the plans of the quad engined Blohm & Voss P 203, which aimed to use mixed propulsion as a combo of a BMW 801 and a Heinkel HeS 011 on each wing. The radial/jet assembly was installed longitudinally, with the jet engine directly behind the radial. To my understanding, the basic design differed from the motorjets of the era in that there is no shaft connecting the jet to the piston engine.

While the project never took... off... one can imagine a hypothetical scenario where Allied forces, be they Western or Soviet, managed to find drawings of the project and developed evaluation airframes on existing aircraft to test the viability. I was trying to find a way to fit this on a Tupolev Tu-2 as a supposed "testbench" by TsAGI, but the base airframe posed too many issues with the length of the landing gear and the lateral distance needed to clear the engines out of the landing gear. And the H-tail would probably need some thermal reinforcing or a redesign to account for the jet exhaust.

A particular challenge to this specific configuration is that the main gear nacelles typically found behind the engine must be relocated somewhere in the wing and/or the fuselage. In any case, something like this on a quick aircraft like a Mosquito or Hornet could prove quite fun.


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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #127 on: July 18, 2019, 04:29:34 am »
Asymmetric three engine Liberator Express (if you don't look too closely).
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2019, 04:52:41 am »

Asymmetric three engine Liberator Express (if you don't look too closely).


You'd have even more asymmetry with one fin/rudder larger than the other, which would seem almost essential for pilot workload purposes anyway.  ;) ;D
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #129 on: July 18, 2019, 06:11:47 am »
Another silly idea.  ;D
Should I take a drakkar, I suppose the oars could be considerd as ONE motive unity.


Interesting. Now in my view each bank of oars could be considered an "engine". Therefore converting a trireme to a bireme or a simple single banked galley to a bireme would be fine.

Sticking on with ships I'm wondering if adding or subtracting a mast to a sailing ship would count. The removal or addition of a sail wouldn't as you would simply be playing with the "power" of the engine.

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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #130 on: July 18, 2019, 06:27:51 am »

Sticking on with ships I'm wondering if adding or subtracting a mast to a sailing ship would count. The removal or addition of a sail wouldn't as you would simply be playing with the "power" of the engine.

 :angel: ;D


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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #131 on: July 18, 2019, 06:30:51 am »

Sticking on with ships I'm wondering if adding or subtracting a mast to a sailing ship would count. The removal or addition of a sail wouldn't as you would simply be playing with the "power" of the engine.

 :angel: ;D


You'd have to ask the mods about that..................  ;)

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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #132 on: July 18, 2019, 07:26:53 am »
Asymmetric three engine Liberator Express (if you don't look too closely).


Six engine, if you count the one's in the hold, I'm sure they could drive something....
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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #133 on: July 20, 2019, 06:36:49 am »
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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Re: The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion
« Reply #134 on: July 20, 2019, 06:43:09 am »
 :thumbsup:
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