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GROUP BUILDS => The Engines - More or Less G.B. => Topic started by: Tophe on August 25, 2019, 11:32:27 am

Title: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on August 25, 2019, 11:32:27 am
It seems the designers of the English Electric Lightning have improved the F-20 Tigershark design, with double power (and no asymmetry if one jet fails):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f20_ee_jitterbuzz.jpg)
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2019, 03:23:14 am
And here is the profile:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-20uk_c.jpg)
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: JayBee on August 26, 2019, 04:10:49 am
Combine this idea with the X-29 FSW. Hmm!  :wacko:
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Weaver on August 26, 2019, 04:11:47 am
Years ago I started a project to siamese two F-5s together belly to belly to make a four-engined version.
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Dizzyfugu on August 26, 2019, 04:38:57 am
...or you could cut away the lateral air intakes, fair them over and add a single, large chin intake?  :o
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2019, 06:11:28 am
Thanks!

Years ago I started a project to siamese two F-5s together belly to belly to make a four-engined version.
And yes, a F-20 version of this (twin-nose vertical layout) occured!:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-20uk_d.jpg)
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Weaver on August 26, 2019, 01:37:16 pm
Mine would probably have looked something like this.

Basis is that the Airfix F-5 is split horizontally just above the bottom line of the fuselage, so two will siamese together.

Intakes are F-4, blended into the F-5 with lots of PSR.

I've used standard wings and tailplanes here, but an alternative would be Mirage deltas.

Twin fins is also a possibility.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48626529667_27e82c959d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h5XF9x)double tiger (https://flic.kr/p/2h5XF9x) by Harold Smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156465715@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2019, 03:10:19 pm
Good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on September 02, 2019, 01:40:14 am
It seems there was another English-designed F-20, a twin-boomer!:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-20uk_e.jpg)
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: kerick on September 02, 2019, 10:29:45 am
Hmmmmm.........  Four engines, place the wings in an X position, laser cannons on the wing tips?
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: nighthunter on September 02, 2019, 03:41:29 pm
Hmmmmm.........  Four engines, place the wings in an X position, laser cannons on the wing tips?

 :wacko: :wacko: ;D ;)
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on September 03, 2019, 07:54:16 am
Four engines, place the wings in an X position, laser cannons on the wing tips?
I may try to draw this F-20Ke if you explain a little more:
are the X xings external of the booms?
or are the booms at the tips of the upper wings?
or else?
 :unsure: ;D
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on September 23, 2019, 10:43:29 pm
from https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=46894.15
Yes, the MiG-56 is born:  :unsure: ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-5_mIg-56.jpg)

No, seriously (not about Mig-28 nor F-5 but F-20): UK is the motherland of the General Aircraft Twin-Hotspur and that gave life to the British Twin-shark:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-20Z-twinshark.jpg)
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on September 24, 2019, 03:10:38 am
Here is the complete family in this direction:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-20uk_n.jpg)
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 27, 2019, 10:10:55 am
Magnificent!! I love this pointy airplane!   :lol: :mellow:
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: kerick on September 27, 2019, 01:06:06 pm
Four engines, place the wings in an X position, laser cannons on the wing tips?
I may try to draw this F-20Ke if you explain a little more:
are the X xings external of the booms?
or are the booms at the tips of the upper wings?
or else?
 :unsure: ;D
I was thinking of the double F-5 made to look like a Star Wars X wing fighter.

Mine would probably have looked something like this.

Basis is that the Airfix F-5 is split horizontally just above the bottom line of the fuselage, so two will siamese together.

Intakes are F-4, blended into the F-5 with lots of PSR.

I've used standard wings and tailplanes here, but an alternative would be Mirage deltas.

Twin fins is also a possibility.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48626529667_27e82c959d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h5XF9x)double tiger (https://flic.kr/p/2h5XF9x) by Harold Smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156465715@N04/), on Flickr

My late reply caused the confusion.
Title: Re: British F-20
Post by: Tophe on September 27, 2019, 09:16:42 pm
I have not Weaver's source so I will not be the one able to transform it, he will (or not).

I just made the drawing of another Tigershark, with 3 jets this time:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-20uk_o.jpg)
It was not ordered alas, not because too expensive (£ billions is not a problem when it's taxpayers' money…) but because it was not twin-boom, being triplex-boom... ;)