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Offline Old Wombat

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Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« on: May 17, 2021, 08:22:20 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnPrlDaIdlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASMmAvaVvS0
Note: For some reason this Sea Fury is only using a 4-bladed propeller ... Weird!


And, just for fun, (same) Sea Fury vs P-51(D?) ...... NOT actual air-to-air combat simulation :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBdlVUVrVI
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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2021, 03:02:20 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASMmAvaVvS0
Note: For some reason this Sea Fury is only using a 4-bladed propeller ... Weird!


That one's got a P&W engine, despite the text under the vid going on at length about the Centaurus.....  :-\
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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2021, 03:55:18 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASMmAvaVvS0
Note: For some reason this Sea Fury is only using a 4-bladed propeller ... Weird!


That one's got a P&W engine, despite the text under the vid going on at length about the Centaurus.....  :-\
Thought that was the case but I wasn't overly sure so kept my mouth shut  :-X glad someone else said it :thumbsup:

I've noticed some of the Reno racing Fury's/Sea Fury's are like that, is that because the P&W engine they put in has more power or because Centaurus parts are harder to find?

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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2021, 04:14:22 am »

I've noticed some of the Reno racing Fury's/Sea Fury's are like that, is that because the P&W engine they put in has more power or because Centaurus parts are harder to find?


I think the latter, plus they're more used to tuning poppet valved engines than sleeved valved ones over there.
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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2021, 08:35:45 am »
That's true of the R-2800 engine, but some Sea Fury racers got R-3350s (Sawbones and Critical Mass) and R-4360s (Furias and Dreadnought) and those were definitely a step up in power.

I've also read that the Centaurus was very reliable when used within designed parameters (for service use or as in airshows, for example), but when you tried to uprate the engine and use the super octane fuels of the racers, it became very unhappy.

This may also prove interesting to some on the subject, as well.

https://www.enginehistory.org/members/articles/Sleeve.pdf

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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2021, 09:06:30 am »

I've also read that the Centaurus was very reliable when used within designed parameters (for service use or as in airshows, for example), but when you tried to uprate the engine and use the super octane fuels of the racers, it became very unhappy.


And they needed a tanker full of oil even in standard form.

My Dad's comments on Centaurus' v Hercules' oil consumption were almost unspeakable to my tender ears in those days.  ;D
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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2021, 09:41:39 am »
Makes me wonder how they compared to their US counterparts. I understood that all radials were pretty thirsty for oil as a rule. As I was told by one mechanic, if a radial isn't leaking oil, it's probably run dry.

I remember seeing that the B-36 Peacemaker had a 50 gallon oil (not fuel) tank for EACH of its six R-4360s.

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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2021, 10:30:52 am »
Being sleeved valve engines, the Hercs and Cents apparently needed more oil than poppet valve engines, but I have no idea how big the oil tanks were. I should have asked Dad back in the day. :(
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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2021, 11:43:46 am »
The original brochure for the aircraft gives an oil tank capacity of 14 gallons:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/Fury/Sea_Fury_Hawker.pdf

One of the re-engined R-3350 examples apparently has a 32 gallon tank, but--as you well know--that could be for any number of reasons not directly related to normal consumption.

https://www.aircraft.com/aircraft/200776237/n71gb-hawker-sea-fury-fb-dot-mk-11

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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2021, 03:58:32 am »
The basic design of a sleeve valve engine results in higher oil consumption than that of a poppet valve engine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeve_valve

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Re: Just a couple of Sea Fury videos
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2021, 07:51:14 am »
Thanks, Zen. I wasn't disputing that in any way, I was just trying to answer kit's questions about oil tank size.

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