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GROUP BUILDS => 2016 Group Builds => The Knackers Yard => The Soviet Group Build => Topic started by: Weaver on January 10, 2017, 07:54:10 pm

Title: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Weaver on January 10, 2017, 07:54:10 pm
At the request of several members (well one, but I agreed with him and I'M A MOD SO THERE), and by the power invested in me by the Whiff Standards Coordinating Committee or WSCC (which I just totally made up) I hereby inaugurate the directory thread for fictional NATO ASCC reporting names for use in the upcoming Soviet GB.

No idea what an ASCC reporting name is or how to choose one? Then knock yourself out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name You didn't really think the Russians called their stuff things like 'Fishbed' and 'Aphid' did you? :rolleyes:

If you want to reserve a fictional reporting name for your project then register it here to avoid one of those nasty handbag fights with someone who came to the party wearing the same frock. First come, first served. If you want advice on how the system works, or on names for obscure things not on that wiki link, just ask. You may even get an answer. Sometimes, it might even be right....
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: zenrat on January 10, 2017, 11:56:15 pm
Thank you Mr Mod sir.

I would like to reserve Migraine (MiG 37U) and Brawler (Myasishchev M-7).

Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: JayBee on January 11, 2017, 12:09:37 am
OK I would like to reserve.......... FIREDRAKE.

Jim
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: tigercat on January 11, 2017, 12:28:33 am
Frostbite and Blight

Please
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Mossie on January 11, 2017, 02:16:36 am
No idea what an ASCC reporting name is or how to choose one? Then knock yourself out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name You didn't really think the Russians called their stuff things like 'Fishbed' and 'Aphid' did you? :rolleyes:

The only rules I know about are that prop aeroplanes have single syllable names (Bear, Fang) and jet aircraft have two syllables (Badger, Fulcrum).  This only applies to aeroplanes (i.e. it doesn't apply to piston versus turbine helicopters), anything else can be one or two syllables.  I think that names are never more than two syllables to keep them short for reporting purposes.  I also believe they are selected from names that are unlikely to crop up in tactical situations.

Although for whiffing purposes I guess you can stick to the rules or stretch them to suit any nefarious backstory...
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: zenrat on January 11, 2017, 02:24:24 am
I suspect that they would also strive to use names that could not be mistaken for existing ones. Fagot being already in use would rule out Maggot for example.

There are some great names in the Missile lists.  I particularly like Satan, Gremlin and Spanker.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: tigercat on January 11, 2017, 02:38:59 am
They do feel like a list of 80s super villains or heroes

Avengers Collectivise
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Dizzyfugu on January 11, 2017, 03:07:52 am
I'd like to add "Fastback" to the reservation list.  :angel:

There might be another fighter (piston engine) in the pipeline, but that's not settled yet. The Fastback will have priority.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 11, 2017, 08:07:30 am
OK I would like to reserve.......... FIREDRAKE.

Jim

I used that for my, as yet unbuilt, mix of a 'Mandrake' and a 'Firebar' some years ago, but by the time I finish it we'll all have forgotten this GB anyway.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: 63cpe on January 11, 2017, 12:12:14 pm
I don't know for sure if the project I plan to built will succeed, but i'd like to add Mantra to the reservation list....

And Foxbat-G.....

Thanks,
David
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: loupgarou on January 12, 2017, 01:19:18 am
I confirm my interest in "Hemorroids"... ;D
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Leading Observer on January 12, 2017, 03:28:33 pm
May I reserve Flashbulb for my Soviet Nightfighter  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: rickshaw on January 12, 2017, 06:19:10 pm
May I please reserve "Flipper"?   ;)
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Dizzyfugu on January 13, 2017, 12:57:32 am
IIRC, "Flipper" was used for the RW Ye-150 prototype...
Can we expect an in-service aircraft?  ;)
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Gondor on January 16, 2017, 08:58:39 am
I would like to express an interest in the reporting name of "Fireguard"  :rolleyes:

Make your own assumptions if you will  ;D

Gondor
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: 63cpe on January 16, 2017, 10:22:59 am
.....also want to reserve reporting name "Feck"......... Now, I hope I've got the strenght to complete them all in due time...

David
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 16, 2017, 10:36:32 am
I have a couple I'd like to reserve.

Bo-64 "Harbinger"  (Attack helicopter bringing death and destruction wherever she goes)
Bb-22   "Harlot"      (versatile transport craft that a lot of guys can fit inside)  Yes, I know transports should have a C designation but this is going to be a re-made V-22 Osprey. The Soviets actually made a similar prototype of their own in the 60s  (Kamov_Ka-22) and the reporting name was "Hoop" so I'm sticking with the "H" stuff.

In my story .... the Soviet Union is alive and well in 2017 and they are the bestest of friends with the United States and pretty much everyone else on the planet. Lend Lease is going strong and we're all one big happy family on Earth...   sharing technology and information and working together to achieve common goals.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 16, 2017, 11:07:54 am
I would like to express an interest in the reporting name of "Fireguard"  :rolleyes:

Make your own assumptions if you will  ;D

Gondor

Well it won't be made of chocolate, that's for sure....  ;)
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: JayBee on January 16, 2017, 11:46:06 am
OK I would like to reserve.......... FIREDRAKE.

Jim

I used that for my, as yet unbuilt, mix of a 'Mandrake' and a 'Firebar' some years ago, but by the time I finish it we'll all have forgotten this GB anyway.  :banghead:

Gosh, now there's an idea.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No sign of a Firebar tho'.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 16, 2017, 12:57:49 pm

Gosh, now there's an idea.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No sign of a Firebar tho'.

Mine's either a Broplan vacform or an A Model kit. I've no idea where the project has got to in this madhouse where I live, but I'll see if I can find it.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: kitbasher on January 16, 2017, 01:43:15 pm
OK I would like to reserve.......... FIREDRAKE.

Jim

I used that for my, as yet unbuilt, mix of a 'Mandrake' and a 'Firebar' some years ago, but by the time I finish it we'll all have forgotten this GB anyway.  :banghead:

Gosh, now there's an idea.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No sign of a Firebar tho'.

So the trainer version would be the MANBAR?  Or is that something alltogether different?
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: rickshaw on January 16, 2017, 05:54:35 pm
IIRC, "Flipper" was used for the RW Ye-150 prototype...
Can we expect an in-service aircraft?  ;)

Comrade!  That is a State Secret!   Off to the Gulag with you!  Immediately!   Comrade Khrushchev has decreed!

I can neither confirm nor deny the information you have requested...
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Weaver on January 28, 2017, 06:51:15 am
Not sure if it counted as a rule as such, but the ASCC had a tendency to avoid dynamic, scary or impressive names, presumably to avoid 'bigging up' the Soviet weapons. There were exceptions though (Foxhound, Fencer) and some names became 'sexy' by association with the Soviet hardware (Foxbat).
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Nils on January 28, 2017, 07:26:04 am
im already using the codename MENACE for my soviet Yak-49/embraer Tucano COIN aircraft project.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Mossie on January 28, 2017, 10:29:32 am
Not sure if it counted as a rule as such, but the ASCC had a tendency to avoid dynamic, scary or impressive names, presumably to avoid 'bigging up' the Soviet weapons. There were exceptions though (Foxhound, Fencer) and some names became 'sexy' by association with the Soviet hardware (Foxbat).

On a similar note, a myth seems to have grown up in the former Warsaw Pact the code names were meant to be derogatory.  The story about the MiG-15 Fagot seems to fan this, but for the most part they're random (-ish).
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: 63cpe on February 02, 2017, 12:16:10 pm
.....and another one came up..I'd like to reserve "Farmhand"......now, let's get to work.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 03, 2017, 05:50:17 am
Adding "Fixer" to my list.   For Md-4 "Fixer." 


EDIT: Sounds too close to "Fencer."  I'll try again later.   ;D



EDIT:   OK, let's roll with "Farscape."
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 03, 2017, 06:05:13 am
Not sure if it counted as a rule as such, but the ASCC had a tendency to avoid dynamic, scary or impressive names, presumably to avoid 'bigging up' the Soviet weapons. There were exceptions though (Foxhound, Fencer) and some names became 'sexy' by association with the Soviet hardware (Foxbat).

On a similar note, a myth seems to have grown up in the former Warsaw Pact the code names were meant to be derogatory.  The story about the MiG-15 Fagot seems to fan this, but for the most part they're random (-ish).

Yup. AFAIK, the code names were rather chosen because they'd look for simple words that are easily to distinguish when spoken or heard (esp. over the radio), and of things that normally do not pop up in everyday aerial conversation, so that the code names were easy to identify, esp. in stressful situations.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: 63cpe on February 03, 2017, 07:10:27 am
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AFAIK, the code names were rather chosen because they'd look for simple words that are easily to distinguish when spoken or heard (esp. over the radio), and of things that normally do not pop up in everyday aerial conversation, so that the code names were easy to identify, esp. in stressful situations

I second that Dizzyfugu..

David
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 03, 2017, 07:34:58 am
...as we speak of codes: I'd like to place an option on "Flout" for a piston-engine fighter.  :rolleyes:

Not confirmed, since there are many potential ideas in my head and on the list, but I'll finish the Lend Lease Corsair and my "Fastback" project (already started dusting off donor kits and parts) first.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 03, 2017, 08:15:56 am
Hey that's right...  (I was barely awake this morning...)  Fixer sounds like "Fencer" (Su 24 I think it was? )   so I'll be changing that. 

EDIT:  OK, I was about to use "Foghat" but that sounds sort of like "Fagot" so.....    "Farscape" it is.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2017, 01:25:21 am
Thinking about a third build and i've ordered a kit specifically (well, it was cheap).
NATO reporting name "Flogfoot" which might give you an idea of the direction i'm thinking.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: rickshaw on February 18, 2017, 07:57:36 pm
I am reserving the name "MAIL", please...
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 19, 2017, 12:11:57 pm

 am reserving the name "MAIL", please...


The outstandingly beautiful (cough, splutter....) Beriev B-12 is called the 'Mail' in the RW though.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/374/FOqYdw.jpg)
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on February 19, 2017, 12:40:57 pm
I will reserve "Flounder", please - another mass of Milliput to appear shortly!
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Weaver on February 19, 2017, 07:30:17 pm
I will reserve "Flounder", please - another mass of Milliput to appear shortly!

'Flounder' is already in use for the Chinese Xian JH-7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_JH-7
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 20, 2017, 05:57:50 am
Perhaps the link to the NATO reporting names could be edited into the opening post? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Librarian on February 20, 2017, 08:11:06 am
I will reserve "Flounder", please - another mass of Milliput to appear shortly!

'Flounder' is already in use for the Chinese Xian JH-7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_JH-7

Yup! 'twas why I went for Flatfish ;D

I'd like to book "Flatiron" if that's OK, for the next project.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Weaver on February 20, 2017, 09:27:44 am
Perhaps the link to the NATO reporting names could be edited into the opening post? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name

It already is in the opening post....
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on February 20, 2017, 11:10:32 am
I will reserve "Flounder", please - another mass of Milliput to appear shortly!

'Flounder' is already in use for the Chinese Xian JH-7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_JH-7
Darn! Thanks, weaver - I missed that. I will reserve "Fishwife" for the Beriev Be-11 if that is ok.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 20, 2017, 01:21:10 pm
Perhaps the link to the NATO reporting names could be edited into the opening post? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name

It already is in the opening post....

Ahh yes, indeed! not sure why I didn't see it?! A lot of glancing and not enough looking, I suspect..   :banghead:
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Weaver on February 20, 2017, 03:17:22 pm
Suggestion for anyone that wants it: Fraggle.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 20, 2017, 03:58:32 pm
Hey, that's a GOOD one!

Then, when it's done, everyone will be like, "Your Fraggle ROCKS!"
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: zenrat on February 21, 2017, 01:59:47 am
I'm using Flogfoot.
I know it wouldn't be used IRL as its too similar to Frogfoot but it fits with what i'm doing.

And no, its not a Chinese Su 25...
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: comrade harps on February 21, 2017, 02:45:27 am
For a sexy jet fighter, I suggest: Floozy
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 21, 2017, 11:45:59 am

For a sexy jet fighter, I suggest: Floozy


Hehehe, love it!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Soviet GB NATO reporting names directory
Post by: Old Wombat on March 16, 2017, 01:53:39 am
OK, I'm putting forward the name Firedog for my build, which has happened almost by accident & which should be finished soon (sorry, no WIP pic's).