Militärhistorisches Museum Flugplatz Berlin-Gatow (Gatow Air Museum)

Started by Knightflyer, July 04, 2018, 07:28:01 AM

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The littlest spy plane being the Chipmunk? I used to see those trundling around over my employer's plant, which was maybe 50 yards from the Wall into the DDR.

Shouldn't those bombs falling out of the He-111 be the other way up? Every pic or vid I've seen of -111s dropping bombs always has them going out tail first.
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Old Wombat

The bomb just sliding out of the bomb-bay is coming out tail first, I guess the others have been caught by the slip-stream & flipped to face forward before arcing into their nose-down fall.


What I'm curious about is the apparent zombie picture in the background of the second photo. :unsure:
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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Quote from: Old Wombat on August 29, 2018, 01:10:35 AM

The bomb just sliding out of the bomb-bay is coming out tail first, I guess the others have been caught by the slip-stream & flipped to face forward before arcing into their nose-down fall.


Ah yes, so it is, thanks.

Quote from: zenrat on August 29, 2018, 02:42:24 AM

Strictly speaking isn't it a CASA 2.111?


It is, but are there any real He-111s still extant anywhere?
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QuoteIt is, but are there any real He-111s still extant anywhere?

Yes

http://aircraft-photographs.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/aircraft-ww2-german--luftwaffe-heinkel-he111-bomber.html

Apparently the one at Hendon is genuine, and I think Airfix did the Lidar on the Norwegian one for their recent kit.
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Quote from: Old Wombat on August 29, 2018, 01:10:35 AM

What I'm curious about is the apparent zombie picture in the background of the second photo. :unsure:

Me as well. Mind you given the incredible output from the German movie industry between the Wars it could be from a film ?

Quote from: Thorvic on August 29, 2018, 04:38:41 AM

Apparently the one at Hendon is genuine, and I think Airfix did the Lidar on the Norwegian one for their recent kit.

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 28, 2018, 12:08:05 PM
The littlest spy plane being the Chipmunk? I used to see those trundling around over my employer's plant, which was maybe 50 yards from the Wall into the DDR.

Yes I meant the Chipmunk. The museum's example is one of the last two used in the flights over Berlin by the RAF before the Berlin Wall came down. (the other 'last one' ended up with the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight) The crew for each flight consisted of a pilot who occupied the rear seat and observer in the front seat equipped with a hand-held camera fitted with a telephoto lens. The observer was usually a member of the British Commanders'-in-Chief Mission to the Soviet Forces in Germany (BRIXMIS), an organisation that was used to gather intelligence on Warsaw Pact forces. Flying as low as 500ft over Soviet controlled areas of the  Berlin Control Zone, the Chipmunk proved to be an excellent platform for clandestine photographic reconnaissance sorties

Quote from: Old Wombat on August 29, 2018, 01:10:35 AM
What I'm curious about is the apparent zombie picture in the background of the second photo. :unsure:

Me too! I noticed it as soon as I posted it, but having checked I have no other pictures of that wall of the hanger  :banghead: On enlarging the photo the panel is made up of triangular 'sunburst' sections of the 'original' all slightly displaced in relation to each other and the figures appear to be giants...the main figure has a machine-gunner on his shoulders ?! From the two sections I've rather crudely 'rescued' it appears to be a commentary on WW1 due to the tank type visible in the lower section?

Oh to be whiffing again :-(

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 28, 2018, 12:08:05 PM
The littlest spy plane being the Chipmunk? I used to see those trundling around over my employer's plant, which was maybe 50 yards from the Wall into the DDR.


The Chipmunk belonged to BRIXMIS.  One of their Opels is in the museum at Cosford.  The organisation could, I suggest, give rise to sundry whiffed transport.

Further data here:-http://www.brixmis.co.uk/  and here:- http://www.bunkertours.co.uk/BRIXMIS.htm  as well as the inevitable  here:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRIXMIS
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Quote from: Thorvic on August 29, 2018, 04:38:41 AM

Apparently the one at Hendon is genuine, and I think Airfix did the Lidar on the Norwegian one for their recent kit.


Isn't one a P and the other an H? With Jumo and DB engines respectively.
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