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A-10 Thunderbolt II

Started by Archibald, December 25, 2006, 06:42:24 AM

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rafi

Thanks a lot, Narses2.  ;)

Weaver

#151
A bunch of info and pictures about "Firehog" proposals has just been posted on Twitter by user Echoes in the Sky here:
https://twitter.com/exoticaviation/status/1415011585517576196?s=20





Firehog art from here: https://www.deviantart.com/generaltate/art/Fairchild-Republic-A-10-Firehog-740014760

Somewhat skeptical article: https://fireaviation.com/tag/a-10/

Links to documents/archives (just in case the tweets vanish):
https://web.archive.org/web/20060621090809/http://firehogs.com/letters/af2fs.shtml
https://web.archive.org/web/20060621090745/http://firehogs.com/letters/fs2af.shtml
https://web.archive.org/web/20060311033342/http://www.firehogs.com/a10demo.shtml

https://wildfiretoday.com/documents/A-10_airtanker.pdf (This relates to the schematic above and has a key plus a full technical description)
"We thank you, but this diversion is not true. Things never happened thus."

"Oh, but it IS true. Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are
the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."

- Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

Mossie

Nice one Harold. :thumbsup:  I've got an A-10 that's been waiting for the Firehog treatment for some time. I've not seen the cutaway before, do you have a key for it?
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Weaver

Quote from: Mossie on July 14, 2021, 01:37:53 AM
Nice one Harold. :thumbsup:  I've got an A-10 that's been waiting for the Firehog treatment for some time. I've not seen the cutaway before, do you have a key for it?

Yes: full tech description and key is in the last link in my post.
"We thank you, but this diversion is not true. Things never happened thus."

"Oh, but it IS true. Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are
the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."

- Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

Mossie

Great, I'd downloaded it, not sure how I missed them.  :thumbsup:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

jcf

The proposal document just highlights the absurdity of the concept.  ;D :o

The cost per airframe of their proposed conversion would be eye-watering, add
in the cost of certification and you end up with an aircraft that would probably
cost more per unit than the converted DC-9s or 737s.


"Conspiracy theory's got to be simple.
Sense doesn't come into it. People are
more scared of how complicated crap
actually is than they ever are about
whatever's supposed to be behind the
conspiracy."
-The Peripheral, William Gibson 2014

Weaver

Agreed. You can see why an A-10-style aircraft would be useful for the mission, but as soon as you start converting an actual A-10, you run into the same brick wall that any other conversion attempt does: losing the gun means losing 4000lb of ballast, all forward of the CofG, and the amount of re-engineering to deal with that rapidly gets uneconomic.
"We thank you, but this diversion is not true. Things never happened thus."

"Oh, but it IS true. Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are
the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."

- Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

Mossie

Yup. Much as I find the idea interesting, it was never  viable.  The operation behind it smacks of a dodgy used car deal.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.


kerick

Looks familiar. Now if I would just finish the darn thing! I guess as they say, great minds think a like.
I'll meet you on the dark side of the moon.

Zero-Sen

Quote from: kerick on February 04, 2022, 04:45:37 PM
... I guess as they say, great minds think a like.
Perhaps, however with nearly ten years of difference! :wacko:

kerick

Quote from: Zero-Sen on February 04, 2022, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: kerick on February 04, 2022, 04:45:37 PM
... I guess as they say, great minds think a like.
Perhaps, however with nearly ten years of difference! :wacko:

Now I know mine has been taking a long time but not ten years! Oops, now I see the date down in the corner!  :banghead:
I'll meet you on the dark side of the moon.

ysi_maniac

BlackHog for general logistics purposes in battlefield.

Will die without understanding this world.