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Saab Sea Drakken/Drakkar - Finished !!
« on: November 05, 2009, 10:53:12 pm »
Ok.. I am in.

Again ratting through the archives for something that took my fancy I found an old Airfix Drakken..and that got the juices flowing.
More ratting found a Novo Swordfish.. which has floats.

So I am thinking a Drakken on float/s. thinking single main and outriggers at this stage.



I am not big on backstory stuff, but suffice to say my idea is that this was one of doodlings that the design board thought.. hey.. that might work.... and a prototype was built for use in the fjords and lakes when runways might be socked in due to weather or out of action.

The history of Aviation is littered with these great ideas that work over jotting (and perhaps a few pints) but in reality don't have much merit.
I give you the SRA/1 Seaplane Fighter and the wonder of wonders.. the Blackburn ROC Floatplane. There are many, many more.

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 12:35:27 am »
He he he...madness!...love the idea.
Would they be retractable floaty things?
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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 01:11:21 am »
as mad as a box of frogs!...............i like it!
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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 02:50:30 am »
Sounds like a good idea to get RDAF presence in Greenland :thumbsup:

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 02:54:54 am »
This reminds me Sea Dart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F2Y_Sea_Dart IMO one of the coolest concept aircraft ever done

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 03:06:05 am »
Very interesting... May I suggest that a float version of the Drakken, quite logically, should be rechristened the Drakkar...  :thumbsup:
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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 03:58:02 am »
Hmm thanks folks but still a ways to go yet,
but yes the float is envisaged to retract into the fuselage and given modern lightweight materials could also partially act as a fuel tank

Got a model of the Sea Dart and it was partially responsible but the Blackburn B.20 has a lot of inspiration as well

http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/blackburn_b20.htm


Very interesting... May I suggest that a float version of the Drakken, quite logically, should be rechristened the Drakkar...  :thumbsup:

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 08:51:44 am »
Looking forward to seeing this one shaping up... or is it Shipping Up with the floats?  I agree, Center and Outriggers is the better choice, maybe have the outriggers out on a bend so they retract into a tip tank style layout, and the Center pulls up to look like an underbody CFT when in place.
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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 11:14:33 am »
I'm looking forward to this one.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 12:37:01 pm »
Fjord Fighter!!!!

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 01:35:51 pm »
Fjord Fighter!!!!

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 01:47:13 pm »
If he made it Soviet, "Fjord" could be it's NATO reporting name...... ;D

Impossible! With just one syllable it would have to be prop-engined. Jet engined aircraft use two syllables... (this is called instant recycling of information I learned during the day!)
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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 03:14:07 pm »
it has got two sylables..... :huh:................'fee-ord'
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Re: Saab Sea Drakken
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 01:50:56 pm »
So the Sea Drakken or Drakkar continues.

 I have done most of the preliminary work

General layout of how the float looks retracted.. the float looks chunky, but this is a heavier aircraft than the Stringbag it came from, modern flotation materials or not


Recessed float bay, bearing in mind we have to fit an engine in there as well.. plus faired in the old wheel wells


Mockup of how it sort of looks.


This made me decide the outrigger floats are too long and it sits too high, so I will lower it a tad

Now for the goof coat of primer to check for gaps and glaring goofers

More over the next couple of weeks

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Re: Saab Sea Drakken/Drakkar
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 04:11:19 pm »
We have movement again on the Drakkar

finished all the basics and now under undercoat heading for final painting





I decided to use overwing AAM rails as those pesky electronics would need some protection from spray, but I am putting tanks under wings.
Plus added a RWR to the fin tip.

main float from a Swordfish, the outriggers from a Piper Cub type thing in the junk box.

Although from certain angles it is starting to look like an Angel Interceptor :lol:
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