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Fokker T.V. (Early)
« on: August 11, 2020, 07:13:10 am »
I thought I'd post up some initial shots of my next project the Valom 1/72 Fokker T.V. (Early). Mainly to see how my new p.c. deals with photos, so please forgive me if my initial sizing is wrong.

Anyway looks a nice kit on the sprues and some initial test fitting is positive. I'll be doing her as Hungarian AF on the Eastern Front sometime in 1943 after the German's sold those they'd captured in 1940 to them.

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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2020, 07:47:36 am »
The T.5 would certainly also work well in a contemporary RAF livery?

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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2020, 07:54:36 am »
The T.5 would certainly also work well in a contemporary RAF livery?

Indeed Dizzy. I'm not sure if any escaped to the UK or not, I need to check.

The background in the kit says that the initial specification was for an aircraft that could fill both the medium bomber and fighter roles, but that was soon discarded.
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2020, 08:18:46 am »
Netherlands East Indies colours instead of the Martin 139/166?
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2020, 02:17:04 am »
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2020, 04:56:35 am »
The T.5 would certainly also work well in a contemporary RAF livery?

Indeed Dizzy. I'm not sure if any escaped to the UK or not, I need to check.



Surely they must have got to the UK in some Whiffworld version of events?
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2020, 05:08:34 am »
Have you got a suitable sized swear jar thee too Chris  ;D
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I know you can't always tell by looking at photos but it doesn't look too bad.  Certainly not as bad as the Lockheed XFV Salmon which is my only experience of building a Valom kit.
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2020, 05:16:53 am »

I know you can't always tell by looking at photos but it doesn't look too bad.  Certainly not as bad as the Lockheed XFV Salmon which is my only experience of building a Valom kit.


That's pretty 'orrible, isn't it? But even so it's a lot better than the few other 1/72 Salmons.

I still have the remains of an Airmodel vacform Salmon somewhere. 'Remains' because I stamped on it after spending many hours trying to build it...................  :banghead:
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2020, 06:33:20 am »
Netherlands East Indies colours instead of the Martin 139/166?

Nope, she will be Hungarian with the Dutch upper colour scheme and RLM 66 lower services. I have two of the forthcoming Azure/Fromm Martin's on pre-order by the way  ;D

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I know you can't always tell by looking at photos but it doesn't look too bad.  Certainly not as bad as the Lockheed XFV Salmon which is my only experience of building a Valom kit.


Early Valom were truly awful, but their recent stuff has been reasonable, but we shall see  :angel: However they do seem to have gone on a pretty steep learning curve since the early days. Shame because they do some neat stuff.
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2020, 08:05:55 am »
Watching this as I have one in the stash that will be real world with the triangle National markings.
Was tempted by the old Aviation Usk version years ago but the interior and guns in that vac kit were the wrong scale.
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2020, 06:27:25 am »
I'll be starting it as soon as the current heat wave comes to an end. I'll try to remember to post updates
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2020, 12:55:07 pm »
I see it as a Luftwaffe transport in the Stalingrad air drop. Nice white colour scheme.

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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2020, 06:51:13 am »
I see it as a Luftwaffe transport in the Stalingrad air drop. Nice white colour scheme.

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I know what you mean and I did consider Luftwaffe, but I wanted to keep the original 3 colour upper camouflage which is why I chose Hungarian.
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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2020, 05:46:11 am »
As mentioned in my Blog I've started a little preliminary work on this whilst waiting for paint to dry elsewhere.

The first thing I would say is to study the instructions first as they are not the clearest in the world. However once you get a basic grasp of Valom's iconography, numbers in boxes are stages, in circles are part No's and then the various letters for plastic/resin/PE/acetate, they are o.k.

The parts themselves are not numbered on the sprue, nor are they in any logical order on the sprue. Part 1 could be next to part 27 which is next to part 3 etc. However there is a numbered sprue guide, but it can be a case of hide and seek. So I've cut out all the parts I require for the interior, other than the very fragile ones, and I will clean them all up before proceeding. I think it's a case of the less haste the more progress in the long run.

One thing I have noticed about the parts is that some of the injection moulded ones are tiny, but very well formed with no flash  :thumbsup: Getting them off the sprue could be fun, but we shall cross that bridge when we get there.

Resin is still included for the engine and a couple of other parts. I do wonder why when looking at the overall quality of the sprues ? Maybe they already have the engine parts for other kits ? Or maybe they think "if we add resin and P.E. we'll get a better review" ? Whatever, hopefully more progress in the coming week, but I have a few domestic chores lined up.



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Re: Fokker T.V. (Early)
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2020, 05:39:14 am »
I'll be interested in seeing what you make of the it. I've seen this in the shops and been momentarily tempted before remembering what I've heard if other Valom kits.

Hope it goes well.
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