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Title: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: Nick on January 13, 2021, 04:51:52 am
Coventry & Warwickshire IPMS Show 2021
Midland Air Museum
Sunday 1st August
10am - 4pm

Paul Redfern has announced on Facebook that clubs and traders wishing to attend this show need to apply via the club email.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on January 13, 2021, 06:21:46 am
27th June ? Possible I suppose, something to look forward to  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Martin H on January 14, 2021, 04:01:40 am
Even thou I am a member of Coventry & Warwickshire, im not convinced this will be able to go ahead.

I'll be happy to be proved wrong thou.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on January 14, 2021, 04:07:31 am
Scope for socially-distanced SIG meeting (to replace the one that was mooted late-2020)?
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Howard of Effingham on January 17, 2021, 08:47:42 am
I am pleased this announcement has been made. Glad it has been because it gives me something to look forward to and for the first time in months a build date that can be targeted.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Freightdog862 on January 18, 2021, 11:00:26 am
I've asked for two tables, hoping the show can go ahead if the vaccination roll out continues.

Colin
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Martin H on April 10, 2021, 10:03:26 am
Even thou I am a member of Coventry & Warwickshire, im not convinced this will be able to go ahead.

I'll be happy to be proved wrong thou.
Well, ive just had two emails, one as a club member and one as an exhibitor. The show date has been changed. Its now penciled in for the 1st of August.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 10, 2021, 10:19:05 am
Promising.  ;D
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on April 10, 2021, 10:21:49 am
in the calendar
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Gondor on April 10, 2021, 01:42:37 pm
Sounds good  :thumbsup:

Gondor
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on April 11, 2021, 05:59:05 am
Cheers Martin. Should be able to make that  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Nick on April 11, 2021, 06:52:32 am
I've amended my original post with the new date. I might even be able to attend this one.  ;D
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on April 12, 2021, 06:15:48 am
Checked diary and that's clear, just need to check hotels nearer the date
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Gondor on April 12, 2021, 10:38:19 am
No idea but would like to go, all depends on what's happening with her mother  :banghead:

Gondor
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2021, 06:00:41 am
Fingers crossed for announcement on Monday. I've a feeling the Government are preparing the ground (Cabinet Office leaks, unofficial sources etc) for a two/four week extension of the 21st June relaxation date. If they do, especially four weeks, could make this tight.

Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Howard of Effingham on June 08, 2021, 08:33:12 pm
Fingers crossed for announcement on Monday. I've a feeling the Government are preparing the ground (Cabinet Office leaks, unofficial sources etc) for a two/four week extension of the 21st June relaxation date. If they do, especially four weeks, could make this tight.

I think you might just be right. If this does happen its not going to go down well everywhere.  :-X
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on June 08, 2021, 11:56:20 pm
Fingers crossed for announcement on Monday. I've a feeling the Government are preparing the ground (Cabinet Office leaks, unofficial sources etc) for a two/four week extension of the 21st June relaxation date. If they do, especially four weeks, could make this tight.

Oh, I’m convinced 21 June won’t happen - frankly I think there’s justification for an extension in terms of Delta variant case rises versus vaccination rates.  2 or 4 weeks?  Who knows but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 2 with an option to go to a further 2.

Either way it would present the Coventry organisers with a very difficult choice.  For what it’s worth they have my utmost sympathy.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on June 09, 2021, 06:13:39 am
In my view the important number is the one we are currently not seeing, without some serious digging and playing with numbers, which is hospitalisation rate, hopefully there will be a full briefing on Monday and one of the professors will tell/show us what it is.

I certainly wouldn't want to be the person making the decision that's for sure. They actually have my sympathy and very few politicians get that.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on June 09, 2021, 08:31:59 am
In my view the important number is the one we are currently not seeing, without some serious digging and playing with numbers, which is hospitalisation rate, hopefully there will be a full briefing on Monday and one of the professors will tell/show us what it is.

I certainly wouldn't want to be the person making the decision that's for sure. They actually have my sympathy and very few politicians get that.

Indeed. 

There has been some hospitalisation data, Chris, e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57403888 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57403888).  Hospitalisation levels and death rates greatly reduced, clear correlations between hospitalisation and whether jabbed or not.  Also levels of illness if hospitalised apparently lower than previously (politicians hailing this as an indication of the vaccine programme's efficacy). 

Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Rheged on June 09, 2021, 08:50:33 am
Does this help, Chris?     https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ (https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/)
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2021, 06:27:08 am
Does this help, Chris?     https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ (https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/)

That's the site I eventually found, there's so much data out there. The problem is ensuring the data covers the same geographical area, the same time period and hasn't already been played with - averaged out, rolling averages, estimates and then figuring out the basis of that estimate etc. They seem to change the way they present it all the time and I'd just like the raw numbers. Mind you as it was by playing with data and numbers that I earned a good living for nearly 40 years I shouldn't complain. What answer did you want sir ?  ;)
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on June 11, 2021, 12:36:06 am
Does this help, Chris?     https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ (https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/)

Good link, thank you.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on June 11, 2021, 12:39:36 am
Does this help, Chris?     https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ (https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/)

That's the site I eventually found, there's so much data out there. The problem is ensuring the data covers the same geographical area, the same time period and hasn't already been played with - averaged out, rolling averages, estimates and then figuring out the basis of that estimate etc. They seem to change the way they present it all the time and I'd just like the raw numbers. Mind you as it was by playing with data and numbers that I earned a good living for nearly 40 years I shouldn't complain. What answer did you want sir ?  ;)

You’d enjoy https://www.ft.com/content/12573b01-ba98-4f8f-8756-057f2b739250 (https://www.ft.com/content/12573b01-ba98-4f8f-8756-057f2b739250), Chris.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: zenrat on June 11, 2021, 04:11:06 am
87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on June 11, 2021, 05:21:04 am
87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I think you'll find it's 86%, Rattie.  96.3% of the world knows that  ;)
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: zenrat on June 11, 2021, 05:22:35 am
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on June 11, 2021, 06:20:33 am
87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I think you'll find it's 86%, Rattie.  96.3% of the world knows that  ;)

It's actually 86.5% so really it depends on how you were taught to round  :angel:

Also I'm 60% certain I haven't actually done that, but then the figure depends on if we are talking about pre or post lunch presentations or if we have decided to average them out ?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on June 11, 2021, 06:22:26 am
87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I think you'll find it's 86%, Rattie.  96.3% of the world knows that  ;)

It's actually 86.5% so really it depends on how you were taught to round  :angel:

Also I'm 60% certain I haven't actually done that, but then the figure depends on if we are talking about pre or post lunch presentations or if we have decided to average them out ?  :rolleyes:

What do you mean by ‘average’?  :angel:
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on June 11, 2021, 06:44:41 am
87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I think you'll find it's 86%, Rattie.  96.3% of the world knows that  ;)

It's actually 86.5% so really it depends on how you were taught to round  :angel:

Also I'm 60% certain I haven't actually done that, but then the figure depends on if we are talking about pre or post lunch presentations or if we have decided to average them out ?  :rolleyes:

What do you mean by ‘average’?  :angel:

Precisely sir  ;) Depends who the client is, who the audience are made up of and most of all what I felt like on the day I drew it all up  ;D
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Howard of Effingham on June 11, 2021, 11:15:53 am
87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I think you'll find it's 86%, Rattie.  96.3% of the world knows that  ;)

It's actually 86.5% so really it depends on how you were taught to round  :angel:

Also I'm 60% certain I haven't actually done that, but then the figure depends on if we are talking about pre or post lunch presentations or if we have decided to average them out ?  :rolleyes:

What do you mean by ‘average’?  :angel:

Precisely sir  ;) Depends who the client is, who the audience are made up of and most of all what I felt like on the day I drew it all up  ;D

Where then does that put us motley band of whatiffers?  :wacko: :wacko:
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: NARSES2 on June 12, 2021, 05:41:40 am
87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I think you'll find it's 86%, Rattie.  96.3% of the world knows that  ;)

It's actually 86.5% so really it depends on how you were taught to round  :angel:

Also I'm 60% certain I haven't actually done that, but then the figure depends on if we are talking about pre or post lunch presentations or if we have decided to average them out ?  :rolleyes:

What do you mean by ‘average’?  :angel:

Precisely sir  ;) Depends who the client is, who the audience are made up of and most of all what I felt like on the day I drew it all up  ;D

Where then does that put us motley band of whatiffers?  :wacko: :wacko:

I don't do any stat's for this site .......................yet  ;)
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: zenrat on June 13, 2021, 06:26:46 am
We are all above average as human beings and below average as a-holes.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Howard of Effingham on June 13, 2021, 11:01:55 am
We are all above average as human beings and below average as a-holes.

One way of putting it.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Freightdog862 on June 18, 2021, 10:01:58 am
With the delay of lifting restrictions till at least 19th July, has there been any mumbling about Coventry?

Colin
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Nick on June 18, 2021, 01:09:04 pm
With the delay of lifting restrictions till at least 19th July, has there been any mumbling about Coventry?

Colin

Given that the show is still up on their website for 1st August, I would guess the club are holding their nerve until 12th July and whatever the Govt decide will happen from then.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: kitbasher on June 18, 2021, 03:33:16 pm
Thanks, Nick.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021
Post by: Nick on June 18, 2021, 11:29:03 pm
I spoke too soon.  :banghead:

Paul Redfern announced on FB this morning that the Coventry show has been cancelled for 2021.
Planning is now in place for 2022.

Quote
With great disappointment, Coventry and Warwickshire IPMS have decided to cancel their club show on 1st August. This decision hasn’t been taken lightly, both the museum and club have tried to work out different scenario’s, on the changing situation with the COVID restrictions, and the uncertainly of what will happen next. Unfortunately, all the outcomes of these scenario’s, have concluded that the museum and club cannot put on a model show, which is COVID safe.
As you can imagine, the club members are equally disappointed with the decision, but these are the times we live in.
We will not be attempting to re-schedule the show this year and will start the booking process in the new year for the 2022 show.
I wish to apologise on behalf of the club for this cancellation.
Thanks
Paul Redfern
Show organiser
Coventry and Warwickshire IPMS
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: Freightdog862 on June 19, 2021, 12:04:58 am
Bugger..
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: kitbasher on June 19, 2021, 12:20:19 am
What Colin says.  Was really looking forward to it.  Difficult call for the organisers to make.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: NARSES2 on June 19, 2021, 06:16:12 am
That's a shame, but at least I'd held off sorting trains and possible hotels. I feel sorry for the organisers, very difficult decision.

I really need to replenish things like glue, filler, basic paints etc. I can see a trip to Hannants at Colindale on my horizon. Now there's a "b" of a place to get to from my place.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2021, 08:13:33 am
That's a shame, but at least I'd held off sorting trains and possible hotels. I feel sorry for the organisers, very difficult decision.

I really need to replenish things like glue, filler, basic paints etc. I can see a trip to Hannants at Colindale on my horizon. Now there's a "b" of a place to get to from my place.

Remember it's only open Thursday to Saturday.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 19, 2021, 02:26:35 pm
[SIGH]

Will we EVER be free of this BLOODY virus! Normal life just cannot continue like this!
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: frank2056 on June 19, 2021, 03:23:17 pm
[SIGH]

Will we EVER be free of this BLOODY virus! Normal life just cannot continue like this!

No - unless more people get vaccinated and keep up with their vaccination boosters (if needed). In the US, it will probably never really end because there is a very large number of intensely, painfully stupid people who will not get vaccinated because something they heard Foxbook. So they'll get sick, some will die, the virus will mutate, make more sick, etc.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: Howard of Effingham on June 20, 2021, 12:05:24 am
What Colin says.  Was really looking forward to it.  Difficult call for the organisers to make.

Very difficult decision. I personally feel gutted David. :angry: Especially as I live close to the Museum and under finals to one end of the runway.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 20, 2021, 12:07:27 am
[SIGH]

Will we EVER be free of this BLOODY virus! Normal life just cannot continue like this!

No - unless more people get vaccinated and keep up with their vaccination boosters (if needed). In the US, it will probably never really end because there is a very large number of intensely, painfully stupid people who will not get vaccinated because something they heard Foxbook. So they'll get sick, some will die, the virus will mutate, make more sick, etc.

Frustrating, isn’t it?  🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: NARSES2 on June 20, 2021, 05:50:38 am
[SIGH]

Will we EVER be free of this BLOODY virus! Normal life just cannot continue like this!

At the end of the day Kit we will learn to live with it in exactly the same way we have learned to live the the Flu.
Title: Re: Coventry Show 2021 *CANCELLED*
Post by: NARSES2 on June 20, 2021, 05:51:58 am
That's a shame, but at least I'd held off sorting trains and possible hotels. I feel sorry for the organisers, very difficult decision.

I really need to replenish things like glue, filler, basic paints etc. I can see a trip to Hannants at Colindale on my horizon. Now there's a "b" of a place to get to from my place.

Remember it's only open Thursday to Saturday.

Yup, cheers Nick.

I'll have to pop up there, it's just that it's a long, awkward trip just for a few bits and bobs.