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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2019, 02:23:27 am »

Don't feel bad, Gondor - I've never known model companies be too concerned about fit.  They almost seem to see it as an additional challenge to their customers.  ;)  And, think - if they hadn't done it, you'd have needed to do it.  Also, did you enjoy doing the measuring, as part of the build process?  If you did, then who cares?  Think of it as skill exercising - practice.  :)


I can do quite a bit of measuring at work unfortunately

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2019, 04:25:55 am »
Try the fit with the wing if possible as the fujimi fuselage does need bracing to get a good tight fit with the wing upper surfaces.
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2019, 02:45:20 pm »
Try the fit with the wing if possible as the fujimi fuselage does need bracing to get a good tight fit with the wing upper surfaces.

Thanks for reminding me. I still have to add the upper wing surface to the lower wing as I still have to decide what I am doing with the leading edges I have the possibility of using parts from the latest Airfix F-4 or the Fujimi kit parts which are separate at the moment and still with part of the lower wing that has been replaced by the Airfix strengthened rib part. I will get around to it some time fairly soon.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2021, 05:45:27 am »
So some two and a half years later......



I decided to get on with this build. The wing tips are added and there are gaps everywhere, 99% of which I already knew about due to repeatedly dry fitting the parts and deciding that I would leave it alone and putting the parts back again.
The angles are wrong all over the place between all the various pieces but most of this will be hidden with further construction. A lot of the missmatching where the outer wing panels meet the rest of the wing will be hidden by the under wing tanks, nice design feature Airfix, so that's a big help. Now I just need to trim the leading edge parts to fit..... just he says  :rolleyes: :-\

Thinking further ahead I have crew to modify and fit into the cockpit. The GIB, Guy In Back, needs something to do so I thought he should hold a placard or something. What should it say though ? I could go with the usual "I'm with stupid!" and an arrow pointing towards the Pilot or even "Hi mum!", suggestions are certainly welcome. Orientation of the placard is also something to consider. The aircraft will be in a near vertical climb so that is to be taken into consideration as well which has just given me the idea of the placard saying "Down with Gravity" and it will be upside down  ;D. Unless someone else comes up with a better idea.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2021, 09:25:30 am »
How about 'Where are we?'  ;D
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2021, 10:08:54 am »
“He just went ballistic”

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2021, 11:02:26 am »
This is going to be a bit of a curate's egg, there are gaps everywhere  :banghead:



Oh well, that's what filler was made for  :-\

By the way, the sign the GIB will be holding is in 1/72 so it has to be short, concise and easy to read at a distance. The people who will usually see the sign will be those of you who are sitting behind the table at any show it is at.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2021, 11:03:43 am »
OK, how about 'HELP!'   ;D
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2021, 11:14:31 am »
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2021, 11:59:56 am »
OK, how about 'HELP!'   ;D

Oh I do like that  ;D

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2 Pluss other F-4 whiffs
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2021, 09:02:16 am »
Decided to add a couple of builds that have my interest at the moment. Some of this is a bit of a copy cat build as OGL has done an Airfix FG.1 with Red tops instead of Sidewinders, mine however will also have Air Darts fitted and as one of the kit options, the Naval Air Support Unit although I will give it a slightly different serial number so it's not OOP.
I have a second Airfix F-4 in the works too, an FGR.2 which I intent to also have Red Tops but also armed with Sparrows and the SUU-23. This will be an early machine in the markings of 43 Squadron just to mess things up a bit.

Pictures I hear you cry!!

Not much to see as I have been trying to stick tiny little bits together. I have started on the Air Darts which were a real proposal. I had bought some Sea Darts several years ago but never got around to doing anything until now.

First I removed the larger fins as they were too small and in the wrong place for an Air Dart. I wasn't happy with the result though, I felt as if the body had been damaged when I removed the mountings the fins had been on with the result that to me the fuselage of the missile "undulated". A replacement was necessary



Brass tube was decided upon, and the nose section removed from the resin missile and added to the tube. A square of plastic card was added to the rear and cut to shape.



Parts for the fins were fabricated



Rather than great big chunky section that were used under the old fins I decided that to keep in scale something more "refined" would be needed. Out with the plastic strip, 0.040 x 0.010" with each fin to be mounted on a section then each section will be mounted onto the body.



That's as far as the missiles have got The tail fins will be made from 0.030 x 0.10" mainly to give the end some surface area to adhere to the end of the missile body.

I had decided to give the cockpit of the Airfix F-4's a bit more substance than just using the decals would do, so I have been trying to get tiny bit's of Eduard etch in place









Not too bad considering that I was not using any magnification to help with the placement and I was using Superglue as the adhesive, maybe epoxy next time. Anyway, the rest of the parts from the etch



Most of the remaining parts will probably be staying on the sheet but a few will be going into the tub once I have glued that into the right hand side of the fuselage.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2021, 06:24:32 am »
Looking good

When I use Eduard half of the bits, at least, tend to stay on the sheet, but the seat belts are good especially with an open canopy. Instrument panels can be a bit fiddly at times and I prefer Yahu if they do them for the kit as there's no assembly required.
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2 Pluss other F-4 whiffs
« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2021, 08:03:57 am »
What is impressing me is the quality of the pictures which I took with my phone!  :o

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2021, 06:17:27 am »
What is impressing me is the quality of the pictures which I took with my phone!  :o

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Indeed, I can't seem to get the focus right with mine. It looks alright on screen but when I download them it's blurred. Seeing these I obviously need to experiment
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2021, 06:26:51 am »
What is impressing me is the quality of the pictures which I took with my phone!  :o

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Indeed, I can't seem to get the focus right with mine. It looks alright on screen but when I download them it's blurred. Seeing these I obviously need to experiment

New phone bought on the never, never with three improvements over my old one, It connects with my car's sat nav and dash cam effortlessly compared to the previous phone, internal storage if far larger and it has a great camera and focusing system. The first I am not going to be using for a while by the look of things though.

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