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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2018, 11:52:40 pm »
After some fetteling I have the airfix part fitted to the Fujimi underside.



And from the messy side



I just realized that I don't know if the Airfix part is longer than the bit I have cut out of the fujimi wing, if so it should not be much trouble to remove the Airfix part and cut back the Fujimi part  :-\

I have noticed that the chord of the aileron is longer on the Airfix kit than on the Fujimi one, this will not pose a problem, I will simply have to add a filler peice to close the gap.

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Your messy side is neater than the good side on many of my kitbashes before i get them PSRed.
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2018, 02:50:32 pm »
Hardly anything done over the last couple of days. A lot has been decided though and parts organized to those decisions. As I am using the Airfix wing underside I have decided to use the pylons and tanks from the Airfix kit so the locating holes match up. This is not a problem as I intend to model one of the two Airfix kits with folded wing tips and only the centre line tank under it.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2019, 10:09:18 am »
I'm still doing odd's and end's on this build.

Although the following picture looks very much like one of those above I have actually managed to get some of the wing parts trimmed so they fit better.



Hopefully I will manage to get the rest of the wings glued together, I may in fact attach what I have to the fuselage first.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2019, 11:17:54 am »
Does anyone remember this kit?



Well the one that is in my stash as a parts donor just donated a couple of parts to this build

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The lack of detail is not all that relevant as the doors will be in the closed position and simply need to hide the hole that is the undercarriage bay.

So now that's both types of Airfix F-4 Phantom being incorporated into the build.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2019, 05:47:02 am »
Does anyone remember this kit?


Yup and I probably built it back in the day  ;)
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2019, 06:13:40 am »
Does anyone remember this kit?


Yup and I probably built it back in the day  ;)

When I had it I tried to follow a conversion article in the old, small squarish Airfix Magazine if I remember correctly, of how to convert an F-4J into an F-4M which I tried to apply to the Airfix kit. I was quite happy with the outcome even if all I really did was make the Spay exhausts out of a cereal packet or something similar. The kit is long gone but not the memory.

Just realized that I can pinch another part from the modern Airfix F-K/M, the telescope used by the back seater will not be used on either of my F-4K's so one will be fitted into this build too  :thumbsup:

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2019, 06:16:34 am »
Yup I've some fond memories of conversions I did based on articles from that old Airfix mag. My favourite was making a Pz III from the Airfix Stug III and Panther kits, based on a Chris Ellis ? article.
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2019, 08:23:58 am »
Yup I've some fond memories of conversions I did based on articles from that old Airfix mag. My favourite was making a Pz III from the Airfix Stug III and Panther kits, based on a Chris Ellis ? article.

That sounds right. There were also epic builds on "The Charge of the Light Brigade" and Mulburry Harbour spring to mind

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2019, 07:14:21 am »
I remember the Charge of the Light Brigade builds but not the Mulberry one.

I've still got a lot of my old Airfix Mags in storage (I have this weird thing about not destroying the printed word *) might try and dig them out.

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2019, 07:25:31 am »
Does anyone remember this kit?

Yes indeed with it's rather dodgy shaped lower rea fuselage aft of the engines and the section between the front and rear canopies which should have small windows but were in reality solid plastic.
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2019, 07:27:20 am »
Yup I've some fond memories of conversions I did based on articles from that old Airfix mag. My favourite was making a Pz III from the Airfix Stug III and Panther kits, based on a Chris Ellis ? article.

The one I remember most doing was a Hawker Hector from the Hawker Hart kit.  :wub:
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2019, 07:48:24 am »
Yup I've some fond memories of conversions I did based on articles from that old Airfix mag. My favourite was making a Pz III from the Airfix Stug III and Panther kits, based on a Chris Ellis ? article.

The one I remember most doing was a Hawker Hector from the Hawker Hart kit.  :wub:


I did the Scout to Wasp conversion featured in the mag, and a right pain it was too. Somewhere I still have most of it.  :banghead:

Alan Hall's method required you to have FOUR Hudsons to provide their tail wheel struts and four more of something else to provide the wheels!  :o He was OK, he worked for Airfix at the time!

I used a Caravelle for the wheels and made the forks from 10 thou styrene..............
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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2019, 02:02:53 pm »
Found a slight problem but also came up with a way to fix it   ;D

The underside of the forward fuselage. Note that the calipers are measuring the width of the fillet behind where the intake ramps go. 23.0mm



So lets compare that measurement against one for the constructed fuselage.... oh dear! it measures 22.0mm



That's one whole millimeter difference  :blink:

No matter. A plan is at hand! Let's start by measuring something  :lol:  this time the inside of the fuselage where it's a little bit narrower than we would like.....



19.6mm is the distance. So lets add one millimeter which is the difference we found earlier and add that to our last measurement and we get 20.6mm that the inside gap needs to be!

Easy enough to cut a length of sprue/tree/runner to the right length and then fit it in place  ;D

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2019, 02:21:40 pm »
Well that was a blond and/or senior moment. I decided to perform a test fit of the parts only to find that Fujimi had already done something to stop the fuselage sides from being too close together. There are a couple of reasonably large pins on the lower forward fuselage part which fit nicely inside the fuselage halfs and helping to keep them the correct distance apart.
So I went to all that trouble for nothing  :banghead: :banghead:

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Re: A Little Rhinoplasty Pt2
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2019, 01:47:14 am »
Well that was a blond and/or senior moment. I decided to perform a test fit of the parts only to find that Fujimi had already done something to stop ghe fuselage sides from being too close together. There are a couple of reasonably large pins on the lower forward fuselage part which fit nicely inside the fuselage halfs and helping to keep them the correct distance apart.
So I went to all that trouble for nothing  :banghead: :banghead:

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Don't feel bad, Gondor - I've never known model companies be too concerned about fit.  They almost seem to see it as an additional challenge to their customers.  ;)  And, think - if they hadn't done it, you'd have needed to do it.  Also, did you enjoy doing the measuring, as part of the build process?  If you did, then who cares?  Think of it as skill exercising - practice.  :)
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