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Poll
Question: What should the name be?
Option 1: USS United States votes: 2
Option 2: USS Liberty votes: 4
Option 3: USS Reprisal votes: 4
Option 4: USS Hawaii votes: 11
Option 5: USS Iwo Jima votes: 2
Option 6: USS Wisconsin (Have enough decal numbers for that.) votes: 8
Option 7: USS America votes: 2
Option 8: Other option. Please list and describe in a post. votes: 6
Title: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: seadude on August 16, 2021, 03:50:48 PM
3 votes allowed per user. Poll closes on or about Sept. 1st.

My what if hybrid future Iowa/Burke battleship is nearly done at about 80% to 85%.
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48217.0
I had originally wanted to go with USS Kentucky BBG-66, but after searching through all my spare decals, I found I did not have enough 6 numbers to put at the bow.  :o  :banghead:
USS Illinois BB-65 is out of the question. I will NOT name my ship the state that the Chicago Bears are in. I'm a Wisconsin Packer fan. I hate the Bears.
BB-67 to 71 is also out of the question as those hull numbers were all for the Montana class.
But, I can either go with 73, 74, 76, 78, or 80 as I have plenty of those numbers. I kind of like 80 the best.  :wub: 76 would be my second choice.
So if Kentucky is out for a name, what then? Any suggestions?
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: Old Wombat on August 17, 2021, 03:06:15 AM
Hmmm?

Carriers are mostly Admirals & Presidents, these days.

Battleships are/were mostly states.

Iwo Jima sounds like a USMC Landing Support Ship.

United States/America are, perhaps, fraught with the same danger as "Deutschland".

Liberty/Freedom sound like recent Littoral Combat ships' names.

California, perhaps?

Hmmm?
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: zenrat on August 17, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
Batty McBattleship.

Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: JayBee on August 17, 2021, 05:34:35 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 17, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
Batty McBattleship.

Seconded  :thumbsup: :wacko:
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: seadude on August 17, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 17, 2021, 03:06:15 AM
Hmmm?

United States/America are, perhaps, fraught with the same danger as "Deutschland".

What do you mean?

Quote from: zenrat on August 17, 2021, 05:05:15 AM
Batty McBattleship.

No. Absolutely not.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: NARSES2 on August 17, 2021, 06:10:41 AM
Quote from: seadude on August 17, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 17, 2021, 03:06:15 AM
Hmmm?

United States/America are, perhaps, fraught with the same danger as "Deutschland".

What do you mean?


I think what Womby means is that the danger in naming a ship after your nation is that it marks it out as a prime target in the event of any War and nowadays it doesn't even need a declared War to make it a target with the prevalence of terrorist groups. If it then suffers damage or even loss in combat the effect on morale can be quite enormous.

Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: tigercat on August 17, 2021, 06:16:19 AM
How about George Washington both state and president combined ?
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: kitbasher on August 17, 2021, 06:58:27 AM
USS Dreadnaught.

Don't be bound by current naming convention.  Have the vessel reflect a new class of warship, like the RN did 115 years ago.  Giving it the same name as an RN submarine will confuse the enemy.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: dadlamassu on August 17, 2021, 07:06:30 AM
To me it looks like something from the kit bashed Gerry Anderson programmes...

USS Thunderbird 
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: scooter on August 17, 2021, 07:50:07 AM
Well, since Montana and Hawaii are the only two states to have a battleship named after them, those would be the best.  And, whilst there *was* a Montana class, it wouldn't be the first time that the USN reused a state for a class not built - vis a vis South Dakota (1920) and (1939).

But I also think that because the Navy decided that subs are going to be the battleships of the future (Ohio SSBNs and Virginia SSNs), a new naming convention for heavy surface assets should be used, and second KB's Dreadnought
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: seadude on August 17, 2021, 08:49:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 17, 2021, 06:10:41 AM
Quote from: seadude on August 17, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 17, 2021, 03:06:15 AM
Hmmm?

United States/America are, perhaps, fraught with the same danger as "Deutschland".

What do you mean?


I think what Womby means is that the danger in naming a ship after your nation is that it marks it out as a prime target in the event of any War and nowadays it doesn't even need a declared War to make it a target with the prevalence of terrorist groups. If it then suffers damage or even loss in combat the effect on morale can be quite enormous.


No different than naming it USS America. We had a carrier named the America once. I didn't see it come under attack at all.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: seadude on August 17, 2021, 08:53:16 AM
A 76 hull number would be nice. Something that invokes the "Spirit of '76" (1776), know what I mean?
Just need to think of some sort of patriotic name. Hmmm?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: Rheged on August 17, 2021, 09:23:24 AM
I like the Dreadnaught  as a name, also  Courageous, Renown and Resolution.   On the other hand, King George III  or Benedict Arnold are unlikely to gain much support.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: scooter on August 17, 2021, 09:25:43 AM
Quote from: seadude on August 17, 2021, 08:53:16 AM
A 76 hull number would be nice. Something that invokes the "Spirit of '76" (1776), know what I mean?
Just need to think of some sort of patriotic name. Hmmm?  :rolleyes:

Revolution?
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: seadude on August 17, 2021, 11:13:21 AM
Or how about........
USS Jeff Bezos
AMAZON class battleship
You pick the target and the ship will deliver it's ordnance there in 7 days or less. Guaranteed. 3 days or less if you have a PRIME account.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: Steel Penguin on August 17, 2021, 12:06:58 PM
put my 2 "normal" votes and for the 3rd ohhh boy, ive got a bucketful

go for a Ian M Banks Culture style one, possibly I said ive got a big stick  considering the comment originally ( I believe) came from a US president it fits

USS subtlety
does the US have any phantom villages, the Brigadoon?
any famous cryptographers?
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: kerick on August 17, 2021, 02:24:59 PM
How about USS Igkya.
(I'm gonna kick your a$$)!!

Don't publish an explanation of the name, just let the enemy figure it out later!
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: JoeP on August 17, 2021, 02:44:04 PM
The USN has some traditions, though these days those are less followed than honored.
You might name it "District of Columbia" or "Puerto Rico" if you want to tweak some noses.   ;D
Hawaii would be a good name, after the state and a previous, albeit uncompleted ship.

JoeP
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: sandiego89 on August 17, 2021, 02:49:37 PM
I really think sticking with a State name is the only way to go for a US Battleship.

I nominate Utah

Avoids conflicts with other names used in later ships, and pays tribute to the largely forgotten ex-Utah battleship sunk at Pearl Harbor. 
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: kerick on August 17, 2021, 03:26:32 PM
Wasn't Kentucky and Illinois the next names in line? Let me check
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: tigercat on August 17, 2021, 11:05:16 PM
If its a Hybrid maybe a Carrier name

USS Enterprise , USS Hornet , USS Wasp

Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: zenrat on August 18, 2021, 03:56:56 AM
Quote from: Steel Penguin on August 17, 2021, 12:06:58 PM
put my 2 "normal" votes and for the 3rd ohhh boy, ive got a bucketful

go for an Iain M Banks Culture style one, possibly I said ive got a big stick  considering the comment originally ( I believe) came from a US president it fits

USS subtlety
does the US have any phantom villages, the Brigadoon?
any famous cryptographers?


My favourite Culture ship name has always been Meatf***er.


How USS Constitution?
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: NARSES2 on August 18, 2021, 06:30:18 AM
Quote from: seadude on August 17, 2021, 08:49:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 17, 2021, 06:10:41 AM
Quote from: seadude on August 17, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 17, 2021, 03:06:15 AM
Hmmm?

United States/America are, perhaps, fraught with the same danger as "Deutschland".

What do you mean?


I think what Womby means is that the danger in naming a ship after your nation is that it marks it out as a prime target in the event of any War and nowadays it doesn't even need a declared War to make it a target with the prevalence of terrorist groups. If it then suffers damage or even loss in combat the effect on morale can be quite enormous.


No different than naming it USS America. We had a carrier named the America once. I didn't see it come under attack at all.

Yup, but the World's moved on a bit since then and not to a very nice place  :-\
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: NARSES2 on August 18, 2021, 06:34:40 AM
Quote from: seadude on August 17, 2021, 08:53:16 AM
A 76 hull number would be nice. Something that invokes the "Spirit of '76" (1776), know what I mean?
Just need to think of some sort of patriotic name. Hmmm?  :rolleyes:

;D ;D I like that thought process  :thumbsup: So how about Yorktown or another US War of Independence victory ? Wouldn't bother the Royal Navy much as they'd simply say "nothing to do with us"  :angel:

As for Dreadnaught, if used would it be spelt like that ? Not sure how it would be spelt in the US, have to ask a couple of my US friends who are ex primary teachers  ;D
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: Scotaidh on August 21, 2021, 07:56:28 AM
FYI, "USS WINSCONSIN" has been picked as a name for one of the new missile submarines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wisconsin_(SSBN-827) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wisconsin_(SSBN-827))

Dunno if that makes any difference to you.  A bunch of us Navy vets are furious that TPTB have named a Virginia-class boat the USS Arizona.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: Nick on August 21, 2021, 12:16:29 PM
Any great US Navy battleship captains that deserve remembering?

John Paul Jones and the Bonhomme Richard spring to mind but I don't see this ship acting in the same independent manner.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: scooter on August 21, 2021, 01:56:57 PM
Quote from: Nick on August 21, 2021, 12:16:29 PM
Any great US Navy battleship captains that deserve remembering?

John Paul Jones and the Bonhomme Richard spring to mind but I don't see this ship acting in the same independent manner.

Admiral Willis "Ching" Lee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Augustus_Lee)
The last US battleship commander to sink an enemy battleship in a one on one duel at the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal - through the skilled use of radar and naval gunnery.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: NARSES2 on August 22, 2021, 02:08:00 AM
Quote from: scooter on August 21, 2021, 01:56:57 PM
Quote from: Nick on August 21, 2021, 12:16:29 PM
Any great US Navy battleship captains that deserve remembering?

John Paul Jones and the Bonhomme Richard spring to mind but I don't see this ship acting in the same independent manner.

Admiral Willis "Ching" Lee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Augustus_Lee)
The last US battleship commander to sink an enemy battleship in a one on one duel at the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal - through the skilled use of radar and naval gunnery.

Interesting Scoot, I just "looked" that up. Thanks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: Old Wombat on August 22, 2021, 03:22:55 AM
I'm amazed they haven't edited Admiral Lee's nickname out of existence, yet, to make it Historically PC. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: JoeP on August 23, 2021, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 18, 2021, 03:56:56 AM

How USS Constitution?

She's still in commission, special, so that name isn't available.
Of the other first frigates, Constellation is available, as are United States, President, and Chesapeake, though the latter two lost their battles.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: scooter on August 23, 2021, 12:39:18 PM
Quote from: JoeP on August 23, 2021, 10:58:41 AM
Of the other first frigates, Constellation is available, as are United States, President, and Chesapeake, though the latter two lost their battles.

Nope, Constellation, Congress, Chesapeake form the first three ships of the new Constellation-class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation-class_frigate) multimission frigate.  Although, since the fire significantly damaged the Wasp-class BHR, her name is available again, struck just this past April.
Title: Re: POLL - Select a name for my hybrid future battleship.
Post by: Scotaidh on August 25, 2021, 03:49:31 AM
Boaty McBoatface ?


:wacko: