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Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« on: May 22, 2021, 08:22:47 pm »
What if North American Aviation decided to compete with Boeing 707 and DC-8?

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2021, 07:54:26 pm »
Enlarged version of Martin 4.0.4, equipped with the wings of XB-48 and their odd triple jet pods :mellow:

To avoid central undercarriage, not adequate for a liner, main u/c has been moved to sponsons in outer face of engine pods.

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2021, 12:04:13 pm »
Airliner derived from Convair XB-46. Along with orignal XB-46

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2021, 11:25:01 am »
Posted some pictures off this project some time ago. As it fits the topic i thought it might be fun to share this with you again.

IMG_20190202_202109529 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

IMG_20190202_202129824 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

It'll be finished in classic Braniff colors soon.

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2021, 11:40:01 am »
Enlarged version of Martin 4.0.4, equipped with the wings of XB-48 and their odd triple jet pods :mellow:

To avoid central undercarriage, not adequate for a liner, main u/c has been moved to sponsons in outer face of engine pods.



You most likely would no longer need the extreme 10º dihedral of the 2-0-2/4-0-4 outer wing panels,
it was added on after major stability issues were revealed during testing of the 2-0-2 prototype. The
enlarged dorsal fin was also added at this time to increase the overall are of the vertical stabilizer.

The B-48 style engine installation would probably add enough side area to enable a reduction in the
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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2021, 01:45:24 pm »
A Braniff Jet Commando? :o

Woweee, what's not to like!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2021, 04:29:31 pm »
Regional liner based in North American B-45 Tornado.

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2021, 12:57:56 pm »
Here three alternative Lockheed Jetliners of 50s. Starting with fuselage of Lockheed Electra L-188.

First 2 are my personal interpretation of project L-193, (Constellation II):  https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/lockheed-l-193-constellation-ii-jet-airliner-1953.16708/

The third one is a what if Lockheed tried the 707 / DC-8 option

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2021, 05:57:40 pm »
The idea for an early airliner I had was a Fouga one, with a V-tail and two engines in the rear fuselage fed by intakes in the tail fins. In effect, it would be like having two Tristar fins + centre engines at 45 deg, (but smaller).
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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2021, 02:34:11 am »
That sounds interesting H.  :thumbsup:

IIRC one of the UK companies did suggest a somewhat similar setup for the Trident spec. but it came to naught of course. I'll have to look it up when I get home.
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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2021, 05:09:37 pm »
Do you know that DC-9 could be a downscaled DC-8 with 4 smaller engines? https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/douglas-dc-9-development-concepts.9880/

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2021, 04:27:42 am »
That sounds interesting H.  :thumbsup:

IIRC one of the UK companies did suggest a somewhat similar setup for the Trident spec. but it came to naught of course. I'll have to look it up when I get home.

Avro 740: V-tail and three engines in separate pods, one left, one right, one top-centre.

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2021, 03:41:12 pm »
Along with RW Lockheed L-1011-500, here we have a twin derivative, with same engines but only two; Dash-600
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/lockheed-l-1011-tristar-twin-derivatives.18025/



And here, another Lockheed project: QuadStar derived from L-101-500 too, with four engines (like those of DC-10-10) in an original disposition that I will call "Evan config"  ;D
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/a-big-longhaul-lockheed.6918/post-125679

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2021, 12:10:08 pm »
DC-10 along with its derivative twin. Another real project https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/twin-engined-dc-10-project.4299/post-34002

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Re: Post WWII Airliners that would be built ...
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2021, 06:20:26 am »
I like the twin  :thumbsup:
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