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Heinkel He-100 and He-112 Fighters
« on: December 15, 2007, 01:35:39 pm »
Hi folks,

What if Heinkel managed to be more successful with having either the He-112 or He-100 enter service:

He-112:




He-100:




What whiffs/mods can you think of?

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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2007, 01:51:33 pm »
He-112s were used by Rumania in real life.

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2007, 02:43:21 pm »
Aircraft and license for the He-112 sold to Hungary, Tested by the IJN and the USSR and of course sold to Spain and Romania

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 03:48:01 pm »
He 112 could have been a decent ground attack machine.

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 04:45:07 pm »
I'd have kept the rounded features of the tail empennage found on some of the prototypes, just enlarged them thus keeping the full Heinkel look.

[edit] That would be for the He-112.   As for the He-100, how about preserving the airframe, painting it in Sauber Mercedes markings and racing it at Reno?



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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 06:13:50 pm »
Can one imagine the potential confusion with Spitfires if the He-112 beat the Me-109 to be the Luftwaffe's main fighter?!  That wing!!!

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 06:15:40 pm »
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He-112s were used by Rumania in real life.

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Aircraft and license for the He-112 sold to Hungary, Tested by the IJN and the USSR and of course sold to Spain and Romania

Yep, aware of both - hence why I said "more successful".

BTW, you forgot Condor Legion use:



Spain:



Japan:



Hungary:


Romania:


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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2007, 06:30:23 pm »
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As for the He-100, how about preserving the airframe, painting it in Sauber Mercedes markings and racing it at Reno?

Given the He-100 actually did hold spped records for a while this may not be that far fetched.  The V-8 (see below) with a DB-601R (giving 2300 hp in brief spurts) flew to a new record on March 30th, 1939, at 746.6 km/h (463.9 mph).



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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 06:48:37 pm »
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He-112s were used by Rumania in real life.

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Aircraft and license for the He-112 sold to Hungary, Tested by the IJN and the USSR and of course sold to Spain and Romania

Yep, aware of both - hence why I said "more successful".

BTW, you forgot Condor Legion use:






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 :redx:  Repost please

And I didn´t think that the single prototype was that interesting (V6?)

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 06:54:31 pm »
How's that?

BTW, here's an idea - what if you put floats (ala Spitfire floatplane) onto the He-100 or He-112 to create a He-100W or He-112W?

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2007, 07:20:29 pm »
Much better!

Or a He-112T/He-100T for the Graf Zeppelin

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2007, 07:48:55 pm »
Comments from someone not famliar with the aircraft... The HE-112 looks like a great torpedo bomber to me.  

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2007, 08:12:53 pm »
I picked up the old Lindbergh kit at the US Nats and am looking for a good scheme for it.
Any other ideas out there?
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2007, 10:17:59 pm »
Of course those familiar with John Baxter's books will have seen/read about a He-100T:



Here's another I found (called a He-113T):



This was by Craig Burke (anyone know him?) - he has quite a few whiffs - see here.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2007, 10:51:12 pm »
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The He 100 would have been a real headache for Luftwaffe maintenance crews had it gone into widespread service, thanks to it's evaporative cooling system.  A few bullets would have made a real mess of it, not to mention the cold starts in Russia.  Fast, yes, but speed alone does not a good fighter make. 

No, the Luftwaffe got the better fighter with the Fw 190, which was a better aircraft to fly, certainly a better aircraft to land and more adaptable than the Bf 109.
The evaporative system was dumped with the He 100D-1 'production' fighter, that series used an enlarged retractable radiator.

The bigger problem facing the aircraft is that it was pretty much designed around and tailored to the DB 601, re-engining would have required major redesign.

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