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Title: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: leptiprince on July 09, 2014, 02:06:01 am
A new project the Chance Vougth 1600 to convert Mitshubishi F2


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The idea just http://gregers.fr.yuku.com/topic/14061 #. U70DnUD8vFx
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 05, 2020, 09:12:50 am
This topic title was what I was looking for, but its content is not much.
At last I have made a full web site with this subject: (in French, sorry, but this is mainly pictures)
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
(I am going to double its size in the following days) <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 06, 2020, 11:27:13 am
I think I have finished to gather what I wanted to bring together, and - searching for that - I think I have the explanation: leptitprince actually posted in a topic about many F-16 derivatives, and he made several marvels among them, but this was not here (but on Beyond the Sprues instead).

On my side, I plan to draw extra entries:
- F-16 biplane
- F-16 tandem wing
- F-16-like airliner (Airbus-Lockheed AL-1016 Concorde II)
- F-16 toy with a nose propeller
- F-16 with 4 jets under wings like B-58
 <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 01:38:19 am
On my side, I plan to draw extra entries:
- F-16 tandem wing
 <_<
This one is done:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_delanne.jpg)

- F-16 toy with a nose propeller
 <_<
This will be the next one.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 02:05:37 am
Maybe tandem wings do not need tailplanes: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_delanne2.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Dizzyfugu on May 07, 2020, 02:53:37 am
Makes me wonder about a Viggen-ized F-16 with canard layout?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 03:50:55 am
I think there are 3 of them on my site (featuring the tailplanes-less canard layout): Lavi, J-10, black little canard.

And I have made the drawing with the nose propeller and no jet: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ad.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: scooter on May 07, 2020, 03:53:08 am
Makes me wonder about a Viggen-ized F-16 with canard layout?

Wouldn't that be a canard'd 16XL?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 04:26:49 am
A F-16XL with (very little) canards has been built by leptitprince and is featured on my site.

I have made the drawing of the AL-16 Concorde II: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ae.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 06:15:28 am
The next F-16 derivative is not an airplane but a land race "car": <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_af.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 06:30:01 am
I have made the drawing of the AL-16 Concorde II: <_<
I have modified the Concorde II F-16 in order not to burn the tailplanes... :unsure: :-\ <_< ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ag.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 07:31:53 am
I plan to draw extra entries:
- F-16 with 4 jets under wings like B-58
 <_<
Done: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_4m-58.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 08:40:51 am
I plan to draw extra entries:
- F-16 biplane
 <_<
Done: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ah.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2020, 10:17:41 pm
Today I have greatly enriched my http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm web site, with archives of mine and searches on the Web. There are now many more weird F-16 models, while I lack the author's name for important ones like the F-16VG and F-16S (and the civilian F-16 I put before), if you can help me filling these holes, it would be great! <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2020, 02:19:47 am
I have added a few minutes ago an incredible F-16 derivative, maybe impossible to fly but this is art... <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/picassoTeknik-f-16.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2020, 04:20:15 am
And I made the drawing of a 5-seat F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-16_pentaplace.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: scooter on May 08, 2020, 05:31:56 am
The family Yawn Dart.  Just eject the kids when they're getting to obnoxious on those long road trips.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2020, 05:46:36 am
Thanks for this idea ;D

And I have invented a better F-16 for married couples: a side by side two-seater:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_aj.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2020, 06:29:21 am
And also various nonbuilt shapes, front view:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ak.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 09, 2020, 01:14:43 am
web site with this subject: (in French, sorry, but this is mainly pictures)
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
(I am going to double its size in the following days) <_<
Yesterday, I have gathered about 500 extra photos/objects to present on the F-16 subject, there is still a big time to spend on this (I simply organized this morning the new chapters to fill like tissue or transformer robots or kites or bottle openers...), and not to be like a web pirate I add drawings of my own also, like these 2 new ones: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_am.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_an.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 09, 2020, 11:27:43 am
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Yesterday, I have gathered about 500 extra photos/objects to present on the F-16 subject
I have added about half of the extra pictures today, and another new drawing of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ap.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on May 10, 2020, 02:51:00 am
And I made the drawing of a 5-seat F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-16_pentaplace.jpg)

 :o :o :o :o
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on May 10, 2020, 02:52:02 am
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_an.jpg)

tempting, definitely ...   ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 10, 2020, 04:57:20 am
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Today I made major updates, but it is not finished yet, sorry.
And I Added one more drawing of my own: <_<]
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_aq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 10, 2020, 11:32:41 am
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
I have completed my Web site now (sigh of relief)  :unsure: ;D

And I have invented a better F-16 for married couples: a side by side two-seater:  <_<
I was wrong: there was already a side by side F-16 (but with 4 seats not 2): F-16AF at the end of Chapter 1 on the site. :-\ <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on May 10, 2020, 04:03:12 pm
And I made the drawing of a 5-seat F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-16_pentaplace.jpg)

A large part of me wants to build this! Why I don’t know!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 10, 2020, 10:11:40 pm
Thanks! Making it in plastic may be awfully difficult with clear canopies, but it might be possible with black painted canopies (above putty) the way I do (after finding this good idea by TsrJoe).

On my site, today I just corrected a few html copy/paste mistakes, for all thumbnail to give the right picture when you click on it. And I have added another drawing of mine: the most serious F-16 of all maybe:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-16corckscrew.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 11, 2020, 02:30:56 am
Does that make it a Lawn Screw?  ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 11, 2020, 02:45:55 am
I am not an expert of gardening and I had never seen a lawn screw! But Goggle helps and I see what it looks like, a little different from the corkscrew for wine bottles (that my father was using, as personally I don't like wine, sorry, even if I am French) :-\ ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: scooter on May 11, 2020, 04:52:44 am
Does that make it a Lawn Screw?  ;D

Perfect for augering out utility pole foundations.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 11, 2020, 08:17:07 pm
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
My web site meets a surprizing success (more than 600 visitors in one week), maybe I will check how they came here, as my counter provider has the information somewhere.

Today I have included one more "crazy derivative", impossible while different: <_<]
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ar.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 12, 2020, 09:44:32 am
I know I must be more serious, without refusal inside the drawing board itself. So here is a table fork for F-16 pilots: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_as.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on May 12, 2020, 12:08:32 pm
 :o ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 12, 2020, 10:26:41 pm
Thanks!

http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
My web site meets a surprising success (more than 600 visitors in one week), maybe I will check how they came here, as my counter provider has the information somewhere.
Visitors do not come from here it seems: 95% are French with a direct link (I don't know where it is) without use of a search tool... Anyway, I am glad to share this collection. <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2020, 12:04:54 am
I know I must be more serious, without refusal inside the drawing board itself. So
I continue, even if over seriousness is a little boring, sorry... :-\ :unsure: <_< ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_at.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2020, 07:24:46 am
I turn back to flying airplanes, ahem...
With an ambitious VTOL rocket F-16 and a cheap subsonic version: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_au.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_av.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2020, 07:47:48 am
As the ones above look too much military for me, I draw a tourism version of the F-16 (yes, supersonic tourism): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_aw.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2020, 10:01:47 am
And like the Supersabre F-100 gave the Ultrasabre YF-107 with dorsal air intake, the same happened to the F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ax.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 14, 2020, 08:42:34 am
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Today I have added forward swept fin F-16s on my site: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ay.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 14, 2020, 09:01:33 am
And a double nose version with lateral air intakes: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_az.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 14, 2020, 09:51:57 am
Also, for a US film about the Cold War of the 1960s, Hollywood did not find a supersonic enemy bomber on the second hand market, so: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ba.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Jesse220 on May 14, 2020, 01:31:39 pm
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Today I have added forward swept fin F-16s on my site: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ay.jpg)

That reminds me of Turmoil's jets from Swat Kats.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 14, 2020, 10:43:15 pm
Thanks, I will ask Google what this is (I did not know).

Today I have added on my site 9 pictures (and 3 subchapters) including one of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bb.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 15, 2020, 01:46:31 am
And I add two more ones: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bc.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bd.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 15, 2020, 08:15:18 am
This afternoon I made a toon of my own and pretty trainers inspired by the Alpha Jet: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_be.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bf.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 15, 2020, 10:26:30 am
This one is not a drawing (with Corel Draw) but a modified photograph (with Corel Photopaint): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16up_wikimedia.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on May 15, 2020, 12:34:38 pm
I see a reference to an F-16 nickname. ( Lawn Dart )

(https://i.imgur.com/oVmFo0R.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on May 15, 2020, 08:59:29 pm
There’s dirt coming out the exhaust!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 15, 2020, 09:09:17 pm
I see a reference to an F-16 nickname. (Lawn Dart)
Thanks. Yes, I found at http://web.mit.edu/btyung/www/nickname.html that the F-16 has for nicknames Electric Jet, Lawn Dart, Lttle Hammer, Viper.

And today I have added to my web site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 17 pictures including one of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 16, 2020, 12:26:54 pm
This evening, I have been glad to find in a forgotten book I had the "unknown" unbuilt plane that was looking like a F-16: not a cousin from another company but the General Dynamics E7. Tomorrow I will update my site with the E-2 to E-6 that I have found now on SecretProjects.co.uk  <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: chrisonord on May 16, 2020, 04:29:56 pm
I have  only just seen these Tophe, and they are all very inspiring.  Marvellous  :thumbsup:
Chris
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 17, 2020, 03:49:45 am
Thanks a lot!

Today I have added to my web site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 39 pictures including three of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bh.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bi.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bj.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: zenrat on May 17, 2020, 03:53:37 am
I see a reference to an F-16 nickname. ( Lawn Dart )

(https://i.imgur.com/oVmFo0R.jpg)

Don't think that'll buff out...

Do combat aircraft have airbags?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on May 17, 2020, 07:44:32 pm
This one is not a drawing (with Corel Draw) but a modified photograph (with Corel Photopaint): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16up_wikimedia.jpg)

This photo is very intriguing. If a person could merge the two fuselages together as you move from rear to front it might resemble an F-14 or F-15. Side by side cockpit but what to do with the intakes?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 17, 2020, 09:01:09 pm
as you move from rear to front
Uh? No I just made a mirror copy, lateral, letting front and rear at their place, I Don't understand what you mean.
The source is at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HAF_F-16_Demo_Team.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on May 17, 2020, 09:37:24 pm
I was thinking of how hard would it be to keep the rear half of that photo the same and blend the two cockpits into one and the two noses into one. And then how to do this with two model kits. Maybe I can draw it tomorrow and take a picture of it. I don’t think my words are making sense even to me.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 18, 2020, 04:25:52 am
This drawing will be interesting, thanks!

Today I have added a single F-16 to my web site:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bk.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 18, 2020, 11:01:19 pm
Today a single addition, an old one without bubble canopy: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bm.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 21, 2020, 03:04:39 am
Today I have added a single F-16, an UAV, different from the "true" built one and the "true" project as well: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bn.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 21, 2020, 09:51:29 am
Then I remembered that the awfully ugly Boeing 707-385C is named Phalcon and that needed a supersonic Fighting Phalcon derivativel: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bo.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 22, 2020, 06:17:26 am
Today I have added to my web site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 39 pictures including three of mine: <_<
Today I plan to add again about 40 Drawings of F-16s (from Deviant Art mainly) but I have already put a major addition: the Russian copy of the F-16, MiG 4.12 (I was sure there was something like that in Russia, but I found it only today).
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 22, 2020, 11:06:55 am
At last I have added 25 new pictures, not 40, + one more of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bp2.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 22, 2020, 09:04:00 pm
I was thinking of how hard would it be to keep the rear half of that photo the same and blend the two cockpits into one and the two noses into one. And then how to do this with two model kits. Maybe I can draw it tomorrow and take a picture of it.
Today I tried (and added on my site) the opposite: separate noses and merged tail: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16-2nez-1jet.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 22, 2020, 09:54:55 pm
I was thinking of how hard would it be to keep the rear half of that photo the same and blend the two cockpits into one and the two noses into one. And then how to do this with two model kits. Maybe I can draw it tomorrow and take a picture of it.
And trying to follow your words: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_1nez-2queues.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on May 22, 2020, 10:33:45 pm
I was thinking of how hard would it be to keep the rear half of that photo the same and blend the two cockpits into one and the two noses into one. And then how to do this with two model kits. Maybe I can draw it tomorrow and take a picture of it.
And trying to follow your words: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_1nez-2queues.jpg)

Now you’re mov’in and groov’in!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2020, 12:09:07 am
Now you’re mov’in and groov’in!
Ahem, the word "groove" did not belong to the vocabulary of our English teachers at school, and the dictionary is not clear (a long hole? a habit? the throat?). I remember the songs "Feelin' groovy" and "Groove is in the heart", but that does not help much... :unsure: ;)

I add a Siamese Falcon to complete the set: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_siamois.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2020, 04:39:21 am
Then I am mixing F-16 with Su-27/Su-34: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2020, 11:13:15 am
And the droop nose of Concorde (& Tu-144) was such a successs that General Dynamics was jealous: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_br.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2020, 11:43:47 pm
Today I have added to my web site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 39 pictures including three of mine: <_<
Today I added (one sub chapter for Christmas and) just 5 pictures, including one of mine, not crazy but what-if: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bs.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on May 24, 2020, 12:49:01 am
 ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 24, 2020, 03:30:17 am
Thanks!
I have added another one, inspired by the Handley Page HP-115: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bt.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 24, 2020, 04:46:46 am
And now one more asymmetric F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bu.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 24, 2020, 09:30:44 am
And another asymmetric F-16 now: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16demiXL.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on May 24, 2020, 09:56:42 am
Now you’re mov’in and groov’in!
Ahem, the word "groove" did not belong to the vocabulary of our English teachers at school, and the dictionary is not clear (a long hole? a habit? the throat?). I remember the songs "Feelin' groovy" and "Groove is in the heart", but that does not help much... :unsure: ;)

I add a Siamese Falcon to complete the set: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_siamois.jpg)

The Siamese Falcon looks great too!

What I meant to say was your drawing looks fantastic, just what I imagined.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2020, 12:14:42 am
Thanks!

But now, I come back to seriousness, with cheaper than the F-16/J79: the F-16 with engines of low-cost F-5: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bv.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2020, 07:03:11 am
And I have moved the cockpit to the rear, changing the silhouette completely: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bw.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2020, 11:48:26 am
F-16s may transport V.I.P. with small modifications: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bx.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2020, 10:43:05 pm
Today I added 4 pictures including one of mine (like a DH-110, slightly asymmetric on cockpits): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_by.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2020, 11:04:59 pm
like a DH-110, slightly asymmetric on cockpits
Of course, as the Sea-Vixen is mentioned, I must add a twinboom F-16 as well: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bz.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 26, 2020, 01:23:46 am
On my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm I have added also this morning 2 other drawings of mine: <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ca.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cb.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 26, 2020, 08:39:46 am
And I add a tiny F-16 with a very short turbojet or rocket engine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cc.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 26, 2020, 12:14:34 pm
This evening I have added on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 13 pictures including 2 new drawings of mine: <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cd.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ce.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 27, 2020, 01:15:55 am
This morning (after last night's searches),  I have added on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 33 pictures including 1 new drawing of mine, with straight leading edge: <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cf.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 27, 2020, 10:39:23 am
This evening, I added two pictures including one of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cg.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 27, 2020, 07:55:15 pm
This morning  I have added on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm two drawings of mine: <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ch.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ci.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on May 27, 2020, 10:03:35 pm
Today I added 4 pictures including one of mine (like a DH-110, slightly asymmetric on cockpits): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_by.jpg)

I’m intrigued with this one. Like a Canberra with the pilot offset and the WSO down in the “coal hole”.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 28, 2020, 01:16:22 am
I did not know for the Camberra but Google showed me, thanks.
And I added 2 more drawings:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cj.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ck.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 28, 2020, 04:28:39 am

I’m intrigued with this one. Like a Canberra with the pilot offset and the WSO down in the “coal hole”.


Or a Sea Vixen.

And that had twin booms too!  ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 28, 2020, 08:51:34 am
Yes Kit, I presented the twin-boom F-16 just after the one with asymmetric cockpits:
like a DH-110, slightly asymmetric on cockpits
Of course, as the Sea-Vixen is mentioned, I must add a twinboom F-16 as well: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_bz.jpg)

But you are right, I may have both twin-boom layout and asymmetric cockpits, and a wing rather forward (and bigger booms) like the DH-110 Sea-Vixen, thanks: ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cm.jpg)

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2020, 02:13:27 am
Today I added on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm two pictures including a drawing of mine (like a RC model without actual jet): <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cn.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2020, 03:29:49 am
Now I am adding a circular-wing F-16, as modern Flying pancake: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_co.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2020, 04:12:55 am
My web-site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm about the F-16 would not be complete without an O-wing Falcon having tailplanes: <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cp.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2020, 09:53:43 am
This evening I added 7 pictures of F-16 including one of mine (with reduced wing, piloted missile like): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2020, 10:34:13 am
Then trying the diamond wing: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cr.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2020, 11:24:35 pm
When the Mirage F.1M53 lost the "sale of the century", the F-16 being the winner, the French government considered buying F-16s instead of further Mirages (F.1E or 2000) but officials argued "anyway we are the very best designers in the World, look at the Concorde triumph!" so a F-16FR was developed with a Concorde wing, and ordered in 300 copies: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ct.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 30, 2020, 01:24:39 am
Single seat F16/79

URL=https://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/F-16-79_SglSeat.jpg.html](https://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/F-16-79_SglSeat.jpg)[/URL]
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on May 30, 2020, 03:20:10 am
The one with the Concorde wing appeals... Did Dassault ever build one with canards? Like those on the Kfir?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 30, 2020, 04:33:20 am
F16/79
You are right: on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm I have shown no picture of F-16/79 (and F-16CCV/AFTI), just mentioned in the text, because their shape and use is not very special (enough for my personal taste/collection), but yes, this is one more F-16 version.
I prefer dreaming crazily and here is one more, for sure refused by the design bureau boss:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cw.jpg)

The one with the Concorde wing appeals... Did Dassault ever build one with canards? Like those on the Kfir?
The Concorde copy with canard foreplanes was maybe the Tupolev Tu-144... ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 30, 2020, 10:13:44 am
The one with the Concorde wing appeals... Did Dassault ever build one with canards? Like those on the Kfir?
The Concorde copy with canard foreplanes was maybe the Tupolev Tu-144... ;)
Of course, I do not refuse to imagine a Tupolev Falcon (thanks!): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cx.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 31, 2020, 12:59:22 am
Today I added 5 more pictures on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm including one new drawing of mine, a cartoon: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cy.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 31, 2020, 04:23:01 am
After playing with the computer this morning, I add 4 pictures: 1 drawing (with Corel Draw) and 3 photo modifications (with Corel PhotoPaint in the Draw Home suite): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_cz.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16-foto-x2bf_.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16sunset2b.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16silhouette.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 31, 2020, 11:20:51 am
This evening, I added 10 pictures (mainly F-16 cartoons) and 2 drawings of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_da.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_db.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 31, 2020, 07:13:34 pm
I love this (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16sunset2b.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 01, 2020, 08:46:31 am
Thanks!
In case what you love is the colour more than the crazy shape, here is another sunset (in another Universe, with twin suns and a different balance, easy on 2 wheels): <_< ;D ;)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/s2_f16sunset3.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 01, 2020, 09:02:46 pm
Today, I add 6 new F-16 dreams including 1 drawing of mine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dc.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 01, 2020, 10:41:56 pm
And this F-16 was an updated Coléoptčre, with no more commercial success:  :-\ <_<  ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dd.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 02, 2020, 12:29:42 pm
This evening I included on my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 10 new pictures including one drawing of mine: <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_de.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 03, 2020, 01:35:55 am
This evening I included on my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 10 new pictures including one drawing of mine: <_<
This morning: 11 new pictures including 4 of mine <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_df.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16australia.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f-16dessous.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f-16sunset5.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 03, 2020, 08:42:39 am
And I have played installing on the F-16 the canopy of the P-51D, a canopy wich is so cute according to me <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dg.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 03, 2020, 09:20:46 am
The same with the old aerodynamic canopy of Bugatti 100P <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dh.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 03, 2020, 11:27:13 am
This evening I included to my f-16 what-if site 2 other pictures, including a drawing of mine, with twin-boom F-16 of course <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_di.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 03, 2020, 09:31:01 pm
Today I am adding the F-16LX, opposite of XL: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dk.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 05, 2020, 10:29:28 am
Here is a Saunders Roe SR-177 inspired Fighting Falcon: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dm.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 07, 2020, 09:56:20 am
This evening I included on my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm 10 new pictures including one drawing of mine: <_<
I have not added much more but today a Falcon Reno racer: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_do.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 07, 2020, 11:43:09 pm
For some strange reason I see that in a 1930's or 1950's sci-fi film or book Tophe. With giant propellers driving this space cruiser through the solar jet streams, which provide most of it's ability to cruise the Cosmos. rather like the idea of giant space clippers with huge sails that garnered the same winds.

Almost Jules Verne-esque
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 08, 2020, 02:57:28 am
Thanks for the idea! ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dp.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2020, 05:23:26 am
 ;D ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 09, 2020, 08:30:40 am
Thanks! ;D

Ahem, now let us be serious (a little): does anybody know the mix between F-16 and Mi-24? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 09, 2020, 11:45:21 am
And I have seen a Crusader (project) with Oblique Wing, this could be updated on a F-16 basis: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dr.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2020, 12:01:23 am
Thanks! ;D

Ahem, now let us be serious (a little): does anybody know the mix between F-16 and Mi-24? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dq.jpg)

Remove the standard cockpit and you have a prone pilot Falcon ?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 10, 2020, 02:55:16 am
Thanks again! Your dream is made on paper immediately:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_du.jpg)

And as the Mi-24 has a rotor, I imagine F-16s with such a rotor too: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ds.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2020, 05:21:51 am
Thanks Tophe  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 10, 2020, 09:14:45 am
Thanks to you!

And I add some more F-16s:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dw.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dx.jpg)
The last one is for PR19_Kit... but alas he is not general with Ł billions to spend... ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2020, 09:20:28 am

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_dx.jpg)
The last one is for PR19_Kit... but alas he is not general with Ł billions to spend... ;)


Hehehehe, many thanks Tophe.  :thumbsup:

But if it's a Blanik derivative it should have swept forward wings...…………….  ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 10, 2020, 09:34:16 am
My source was https://aviationsmilitaires.net/v3/kb/picture/482/let-l-13-blanik-l-33 (L-33 being maybe not the most famous Blanik, sorry). :unsure:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2020, 09:50:35 am
That's the later Super Blanik, the original L-13 is like this :-

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6131/kzBQJO.jpg)

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 10, 2020, 10:39:49 am
Thanks Kit, I am adding a correction here: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ab.jpg)
And I said on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm that this is like Blanik, the previous one being like Super-Blanik. Thanks again! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on June 10, 2020, 11:05:38 am
What about ... a Stummel-Falcon?

(https://alchetron.com/cdn/dfs-habicht-9f756211-5a29-46e2-a3cd-88e2242cc35-resize-750.jpeg)

(The Stummel-Habicht was made in two different wing spans)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 10, 2020, 11:45:56 am
Thanks perttime, good idea! <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ac.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2020, 12:26:54 pm

Thanks Kit, I am adding a correction here: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ab.jpg)
And I said on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm that this is like Blanik, the previous one being like Super-Blanik. Thanks again! :thumbsup:


Perfection!  :thumbsup:

I love Blaniks, if you land them properly they go 'Clang'!  ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 11, 2020, 09:31:18 am
Thanks for this piece of memory.
And now, after the RW small-mouth F-16 and big-mouth F-16*, here is a further step: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ad.jpg)
* : see http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9678
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 13, 2020, 09:07:13 am
Yes, there is a 6-engined F-16, without jet, a RC flying model (in my mind): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ae.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 14, 2020, 05:40:47 am
That made me smile Tophe, thank you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 14, 2020, 06:22:05 am
Thanks!
(Don't worry, this is a normal reaction of the body: when seriousness is too high, the mouth smiles, it is automatic) ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 14, 2020, 01:08:04 pm
And now a mix of F-16 and SNECMA Coléoptčre: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_af.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 14, 2020, 11:09:21 pm
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on June 15, 2020, 12:05:13 am
 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 15, 2020, 02:27:03 pm
And now a mix of F-16 and SNECMA Coléoptčre: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_af.jpg)

Love Falcoptere :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on June 15, 2020, 09:44:59 pm
The FalcoPtčre looks better than expected.
It reminds me of Alexander Lippisch's Aerodyne too:

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/05/54cb2803b0736_-_bizarre-aircraft-01-0114-de.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 02:46:57 am

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/05/54cb2803b0736_-_bizarre-aircraft-01-0114-de.jpg)


That doesn't seem to have ANY wings, let alone longer ones!  :o
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 16, 2020, 08:39:49 am
After drawing X-wing Mirages at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=10054.180
here are X-wing F-16s: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Avf16_990.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Avf16_999.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 17, 2020, 03:25:16 am
What if there were a Burnelli Falcon?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ag.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 19, 2020, 09:46:16 pm
The F-16 below is inspired by the Kharkiv KhAI-3 of the 1930s, while it is comparable to a normal F-16B (2 pilots and a single/central jet engine): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ai.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: silverwindblade on June 20, 2020, 04:08:10 am
What if there were a Burnelli Falcon?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ag.jpg)

This reminds me of the starfighters from the Buck Rogers TV series
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 20, 2020, 04:23:19 am
You are right: Google confirmed with for instance https://www.turbosquid.com/fr/3d-models/buck-rogers-starfighter-3d-model/602648
(this is not what inspired me, but I have like reinvented it) ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 20, 2020, 11:44:25 am
What-if the ventral air intake of the F-16 was discarded, because eating to much dust from the ground?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ak.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 20, 2020, 10:00:49 pm
This morning, I am adding on my what-if F-16 site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm one more picture: what-if the F-16 was turned into a twin-jet plane to compete with the Eurofighter Typhoon 2?: <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_am.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 20, 2020, 10:33:36 pm
For export to Italy, the F-16 was redesigned by the Caproni factory, built and flown and crashed like its ancestor Noviplano:  :unsure:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_an.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 22, 2020, 10:52:41 am
With a radioactive engine, the cockpit needs to be well separated: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ao.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on June 22, 2020, 08:42:05 pm
For export to Italy, the F-16 was redesigned by the Caproni factory, built and flown and crashed like its ancestor Noviplano:  :unsure:

 ;D  ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 22, 2020, 10:05:06 pm
Thanks!

Today I plan to add about 10 pictures on my what-if F-16 site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm mainly from Google searches, but I have already added 2 pictures of mine: what-if the F-16 was inspired by the Bv-141 or SR-71?
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ap.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_aq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 23, 2020, 03:28:18 am
In the same subfamily was a (fast) 3-engined F-16 with 3 tails: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ar.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 23, 2020, 05:10:52 am
I like that 3 tail Falcon Tophe  :thumbsup: Reminds me in a way of the high speed designs from the UK and French industries of the 50/60's
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on June 23, 2020, 11:12:11 pm
Those external engines....
Did you already make an SR-16 Blackfalcon?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on June 23, 2020, 11:48:02 pm
I grafted the business end of a Airfix 1/72 F-16B onto a 1/144 SR-71. I think I have a photo of the build on my Facebook page.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 24, 2020, 12:27:19 am
Thanks!
Here is "my" SR-16 even if this is not the only one:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_at.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on June 24, 2020, 03:02:41 am
Yes!
That works for me  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 24, 2020, 05:25:49 am
Yes!
That works for me  :thumbsup:

And me  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Jesse220 on June 24, 2020, 10:51:59 am
Thanks!
Here is "my" SR-16 even if this is not the only one:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_at.jpg)

Wicked!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 24, 2020, 11:06:01 am
Wicked!
"Wicked" is not a word I use. Google translate told me there are 2 meanings: 1/ "bad", 2/"excellent"... Which one? :unsure:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on June 24, 2020, 11:24:17 pm
Wicked!
"Wicked" is not a word I use. Google translate told me there are 2 meanings: 1/ "bad", 2/"excellent"... Which one? :unsure:
Browsing dictionary sites, I find some definitions that fit. In no particular order:

- slightly immoral or bad for you, but in an attractive way
- excellent
- disposed to or marked by mischief
- going beyond reasonable or predictable limits : of exceptional quality or degree

I'm visualizing a 12 year old character in a film, looking at something full of admiration and exclaiming "Wicked!"
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 24, 2020, 11:55:26 pm
Thanks for this English lesson! ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 26, 2020, 02:20:19 am
The XF-91 Thunderceptor's spirit is not finished but up to date somehow! <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_au.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 26, 2020, 08:39:50 am
what-if the F-16 was inspired by
SR-71?
There may also be a tail like on the Bristol 188 as long as it is a T-tail: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_av.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 26, 2020, 11:39:59 am
And now F-16 inspired by the Edendard II ans Staceship One: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_aw.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ax.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on June 27, 2020, 01:32:12 am

There may also be a tail like on the Bristol 188 as long as it is a T-tail: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_av.jpg)

That would make such a fantastic scalorama subject  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 27, 2020, 08:48:03 am
Thanks a lot!

Now a rocket-engined F-16, like a modern Me-163B Komet: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ay.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 29, 2020, 12:42:30 am
There was a test project of Staggerwing F-15 in 1977, and I imagine the same with a F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_az.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 29, 2020, 11:18:31 am
The very first F-16 came from the Cutlass family, it seems: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ba.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 29, 2020, 09:42:57 pm
Yesterday I found on the web the Convair (General Dynamics) ADF Config 772: the US basis of the Lavi. This '772 is what-if as unbuilt (scale 1). I put that today on my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm, after cleaning the picture to feature the silhouette. <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 30, 2020, 12:57:51 am
The first F-16 had a parasol wing like its ancestor Catalina (Consolidated became Convair that became General Dynamics): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bb.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 30, 2020, 06:51:46 am
F-16 with a special tail (maybe never seen anywhere): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bc.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 30, 2020, 10:01:12 am
triplex-boom twin-engined F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bd.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 30, 2020, 10:20:42 am
And a twin-boomer (tailplane hold only by lateral booms) looking like triplex-boom (seen from above or below): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_be.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 01, 2020, 03:47:37 am
The opposite of egg-plane direction is interesting too: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bf.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 01, 2020, 09:49:36 am
It seems the F-16F program had several versions, this one without apex at all: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bh.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 17, 2020, 01:10:20 am
Today I discovered weird F-16V and Z, with folding fuselage!: ;D ;)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r-f16vz.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on July 17, 2020, 10:16:45 am
 ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 20, 2020, 08:16:16 am
Thanks!

I have added 2 new pictures including one drawing of mine:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bi.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 20, 2020, 09:23:37 pm
And tailless F-16 like the Cutlass: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bj.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on July 21, 2020, 06:14:37 am
And tailless F-16 like the Cutlass: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bj.jpg)

Now that certainly has the look  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 30, 2020, 09:34:10 am
Thanks!

When I built my F-16C˛ (at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48060.0), there was a step where I hesitated what to do with extra tailplanes, and I considered using them as External TailPlanes like this: :-\ ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bm.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on July 30, 2020, 11:19:50 am
Very neat Tophe  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 15, 2020, 05:18:01 am
Thank you!

And I have been inspired by the Northrop N-251 on secretprojects.co.uk: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 17, 2020, 11:03:35 am
the pinterest web site showed me a picture of SR-71B, and maybe this plane is not unknown to me but I had forgotten, now I imagine a similar F-16 for my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm : <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bs.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 18, 2020, 11:36:34 am
And a sharp wind screen is possible too, like on a F-106: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bu.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on August 18, 2020, 12:47:43 pm
If you added some skis would that be a F-16F Sea Falcon Dart?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 18, 2020, 10:07:14 pm
If you added some skis would that be a F-16F Sea Falcon Dart?
Thanks for this idea, while... I fear the ventral air intake is impossible on a seaplane and much more modification would be required. Maybe I will try, thanks! ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 19, 2020, 12:27:33 am
I made it, thanks McColm!: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bw.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 19, 2020, 03:34:58 am
Among oddities, there is of course a F-16 parasite fighter: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bz.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 19, 2020, 07:58:30 am
Far less crazy are these F-16s but with 2 fins also: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ca.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on August 19, 2020, 01:00:57 pm
I made it, thanks McColm!: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_bw.jpg)
Wow looks great! Got the look of the F-107 or am I reading too much into it?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 19, 2020, 07:30:24 pm
Thanks!

Got the look of the F-107 or am I reading too much into it?
Months ago, I made the drawing of a F-16F-107 but that was without the skis:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ax.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on August 20, 2020, 01:13:57 am
Thanks!

Got the look of the F-107 or am I reading too much into it?
Months ago, I made the drawing of a F-16F-107 but that was without the skis:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ax.jpg)
That's definitely a future build  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 20, 2020, 02:04:02 am
Thanks! I feel honored... even if this would be very uneasy to do it actually in plastic :unsure: ;D

Then, do you know General Dynamics was inspired seeing the Hawker P.1214 & 1216? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cc.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ce.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 20, 2020, 11:29:19 am
zenrat's topic about the HP Victor/Victomix https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48066.120 reminded me the weird fin bottom of the Victor. I had to try that on a F-16! And I tried also the bulged nose below of this Victor source (and the T-tail). The result is not beautiful but weird: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cf.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on August 20, 2020, 08:47:09 pm
I'm using the Airfix 1/72 F-117 as a donor kit for the Hawkalcon design.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 20, 2020, 09:07:01 pm
I'm using the Airfix 1/72 F-117 as a donor kit for the Hawkalcon design.
Lots of work to adapt... Congratulations if you ever succeed. ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 20, 2020, 10:14:03 pm
kitnut617's topic about huge radar noses at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48246.0 made me look on Google and I found the weird Britten-Norman BN-2T Astor. I wanted a F-16 derivative of course! <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cg.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 22, 2020, 08:51:23 am
If you added some skis would that be a F-16F Sea Falcon Dart?
As F-16 seaplane, there was also a flying boat with rocket engine: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ci.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on August 22, 2020, 09:25:07 am

very nice flying boalcon  ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on August 22, 2020, 09:22:44 pm
You could keep the jet engine by placing the air intake on top of the fuselage behind the canopy like the F-107.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 22, 2020, 10:07:13 pm
Thanks!

You could keep the jet engine by placing the air intake on top of the fuselage behind the canopy like the F-107.
This is a good idea, while I already made the drawings of F-16 with F-107 air intake, or F2Y air intake, the third possibility seems a DC-10 air intake. Here it is: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cj.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on August 23, 2020, 02:31:03 am
Thanks!

You could keep the jet engine by placing the air intake on top of the fuselage behind the canopy like the F-107.
This is a good idea, while I already made the drawings of F-16 with F-107 air intake, or F2Y air intake, the third possibility seems a DC-10 air intake. Here it is: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cj.jpg)
This looks doable,  the engine air intake(s) would be upto the Whiffer. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2020, 05:34:54 am
Thanks!

In https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=30511.2295 :
I came across this French Canadian guy's Flickr page quite by accident.
His profile page is here :- https://www.flickr.com/people/franclab/ (https://www.flickr.com/people/franclab/) WELL worth looking at.  :thumbsup:
From the same site, I have found an interesting sci-fi F-16, thanks!:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_F16XWg.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2020, 09:53:04 am
I have dreamed that (apart from propaganda) the F-16 has been the very first aircraft to break the sound barrier, in very aerodynamic versions: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cm.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: tinlail on August 26, 2020, 02:37:26 pm
I don't think anything like this has been posted.
The notion was that Israel couldn't get F-15s and so made a two engine XL version.

(http://joseph.couvillion.net/pictures/F-16XL_DBL-trophe.jpg)

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2020, 09:44:46 pm
Wonderful :wub:

I have just a little transformed it, discarding the tailplanes on the front view: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/m_f-16XL-2-2.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: tinlail on August 27, 2020, 12:21:35 pm
Neaten it up nicely. :thumbsup:

Would love to build it, scared to death of the all the curves that would have to be done by hand.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on August 27, 2020, 10:18:06 pm
There have been F16XL kits around. Making an F-16XXL, you'd need to figure out how to join two fuselages with one cockpit section. Perhaps parts from some twin engine fighter?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 28, 2020, 09:31:15 am
Maybe using F-16XL 1/144 kits (Airfix or else)?

Thanks also for having made me dream again of "modified" 16XL: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_co.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 28, 2020, 11:48:17 am
More "seriously", the F-16XL shape made me dream of something else, and I illustrated it immediately for my F-16 crazy site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm : <_<

(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 29, 2020, 03:19:54 am
More normal/boring: a F-16XL with just 2 fins on wings: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cs.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 29, 2020, 03:54:23 am
And then a long XL with tailplanes addition (in a delta+tail layout like the MiG-21): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ct.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 29, 2020, 10:03:53 pm
I have seen on the web a nice caricature of F-14, and I imagine such a F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cv.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 30, 2020, 05:04:49 am
Looks like it's been crash tested.  :o
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 02, 2020, 11:27:16 am
Thanks for having found an explanation. ;D

More seriously now: the Fighting Falcon F-16 could not be named Falcon because the Dassault company owned a trademark for its Falcon 20 & 10 & 50 bizjets. But why not a Falcon 16 bizjet missing link?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cx.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 03, 2020, 07:30:16 am
Of course there was a twin-boom F-16 (with a little turbojet): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cy.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 04, 2020, 01:31:46 am
And a twin fuselage F-16 with a little assymmetry (having a single nose): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cz.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on September 10, 2020, 11:48:20 am
And a twin fuselage F-16 with a little assymmetry (having a single nose): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_cz.jpg)
It looks like the Chinese  fighter, single jet engine  with
canards although the 1/72 Trumpeter 01611 doesn't give you any information about the fighter
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 10, 2020, 07:43:47 pm
It looks like the Chinese  fighter, single jet engine  with canards although the 1/72 Trumpeter 01611 doesn't give you any information about the fighter
There are details at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on September 10, 2020, 10:48:37 pm
It looks like the Chinese  fighter, single jet engine  with canards although the 1/72 Trumpeter 01611 doesn't give you any information about the fighter
There are details at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10
Thanks,  with a pair of conformal fuel tanks and a set of alternative decals,  this could be whiffed into many versions.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 11, 2020, 12:28:32 am
And a twin fuselage F-16 with a little assymmetry (having a single nose): <_<
It looks like the Chinese  fighter, single jet engine  with canards
There was a misunderstanding: the F-16TF was not canard but asymmetric. Another angle shows it better: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_db.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on September 11, 2020, 09:42:30 am
 :banghead:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 11, 2020, 09:47:37 am
Don't slam you head on the wall, dear, this is just a little misunderstanding, not a serious problem... I may even try to illustrate your wrong reading, making it creative, thanks! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 11, 2020, 10:35:02 am
I may even try to illustrate your wrong reading, making it creative, thanks! :thumbsup:
Here is the result, thanks!: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dc.jpg)
There would be a problem of airstream with the wing just after the canard, not staggered, and the wing should be more rear for good centering, but this is whif world!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 17, 2020, 10:51:52 pm
On my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
I add today a Draken Falcon or Falcon Draken
(the F-16XL was called a double delta like the J-35 Draken but it lacked the lateral air intakes): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dd.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 18, 2020, 03:23:00 am
That looks a LOT better than a 'normal' F-16, or even an XL too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: McColm on September 18, 2020, 05:44:01 am
Wow you've got every conceivable concept covered  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 18, 2020, 07:13:42 am
Thanks a lot, both of you! <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 23, 2020, 10:05:22 am
And also with a thin front part was this sub-family (mixing F-16 and XQ-4): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_df.jpg)
(not very powerful means: cheap! export success?)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 25, 2020, 10:24:01 am
The ancestor of the F-16 had no turbojet of course, but no enclosed canopy too (being so slow, no problem with the wind): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dg.jpg)
P.S. General Dynamics came from Convair that came from Consolidated-Vultee that came from Consolidated, maybe this is the source somehow.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on November 07, 2020, 07:01:00 am
I have been inspired seeing one model of Unicraft http://www.unicraft.biz/on/sensor/sensor.htm : <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dh.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on November 11, 2020, 02:45:57 am
In 2012, I saw this old-style F-16 (then I forgot it): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_JPV-f16-1950s.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on November 11, 2020, 07:19:03 am
A mix of Falcon and Optica: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_di.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 11, 2020, 09:06:14 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on November 25, 2020, 01:51:43 am
Thanks!

More "seriously", here is the F-16TT which is a pilotless UAV:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dk.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on November 27, 2020, 08:31:42 am
While most F-16s were dogfighters at less than Mach 2, there was a project of Mach 3 interceptor as well, without bubble canopy:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dm.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on November 30, 2020, 02:59:31 am
BAC/EE Lightning II? (instead of Lockheed F-22 Lightning II):  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dn.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 02, 2020, 07:40:26 am
There was also a 4-engine-pod delta F-16:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_do.jpg)
It was built and flown for real! (in my dream)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on December 02, 2020, 08:55:36 am
There was also a 4-engine-pod delta F-16:  <_<


that's a nice one, do-able in plastic maybe, with appropriate scales (big F16, small Hustler)



Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 05, 2020, 11:30:08 am
I have added another F-16 on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
There was a supersonic Beluga it seems:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dp.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on December 05, 2020, 10:40:43 pm
Tophe my friend, you have my F-16 to do list filled for many years to come!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 06, 2020, 06:45:46 am
Thanks! (trying to inspire modelers is the reason to post on this site) ;)

And today I am adding one more, like supersonic Mistel:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2020, 06:53:35 am
The mind BOGGLES at a glider F-16.  :o

Would it have needed longer wings?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 06, 2020, 09:22:41 am
Thanks! (I take your surprise as cheers) ;)

Would it have needed longer wings?  ;) ;D
May your wish come true: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dr.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2020, 09:50:42 am
PERFECT!  ;D

Or almost anyway, a true sailplane would have even longer wings, like an Ash25.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7663/IYyQI1.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 06, 2020, 10:01:42 am
You are right, Kit, but a few months ago we played already in this direction (without removing the jet though) and I did not want to replicate, just adding a little more span on this glider 16S.
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ab.jpg)
P.S. If I remember well, "16S" was the name of the gene which I was analysing on bacteria, that was my professional work 2012-2018.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2020, 11:04:52 am
LOVE it!  :wub:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 08, 2020, 11:11:50 pm
Thanks!

And below is the top-secret SR-16, a fighter that was painted in black as Strategic Reco (to fool the spies) but hiding the revolutionary Stereo Radar double nose... <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dt.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 09, 2020, 04:17:46 am
I have discovered a new duet of twin-boom Falcons: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_du.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 10, 2020, 11:33:31 am
At https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48613.0
Frank2056 presented a great Lee Richards Annular Wing Monoplane 1914. From this came (a long time later than 1914) a F-16 derivative :
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dv.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: frank2056 on December 10, 2020, 04:41:03 pm
Tophe,

 have you seen this?:

(https://i.imgur.com/qhpNgOc.jpg)

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 10, 2020, 08:12:19 pm
Thanks for the inspiration! ;D
Uh, as I don't understand which end is the front one, there are 2 possibilities of F-16 versions: :unsure:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dw.jpg)
There are no jet because this is mental power (or gliders) ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 11, 2020, 04:14:14 am
Force field..............
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: zenrat on December 11, 2020, 04:58:21 am
ST-16S is straight out of Star Wars Ep. I too III.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: frank2056 on December 11, 2020, 04:44:02 pm
I think (based on the ailerons) that the thick side is forward. Propulsion is via "thoughts and prayers"

I like the lower F-16 - it can fly forwards or backwards!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 11, 2020, 08:50:55 pm
Thanks for the ailerons detail! (I had not noticed that), and that makes me change a little my interpretation: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dx.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Rheged on December 12, 2020, 09:09:36 am
These amazing aircraft appear to be powered by thought alone!

Cue  the Moody Blues  "Thinking is the best way to travel"   from the LP  In Search of the Lost Chord

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=The+Moody+Blues+the+Best+Way+to+Travel&&view=detail&mid=C919355B88A2CAEE4998C919355B88A2CAEE4998&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DThe%2BMoody%2BBlues%2Bthe%2BBest%2BWay%2Bto%2BTravel%26FORM%3DRESTAB (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=The+Moody+Blues+the+Best+Way+to+Travel&&view=detail&mid=C919355B88A2CAEE4998C919355B88A2CAEE4998&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DThe%2BMoody%2BBlues%2Bthe%2BBest%2BWay%2Bto%2BTravel%26FORM%3DRESTAB)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 12, 2020, 10:05:11 am
Thanks for this musical/technological confirmation! ;D

Another F-16 was big, but not for cargo, just for huge extra tanks: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dy.jpg)
(inspired somehow by the cargo Conroy SkyMonster) ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 13, 2020, 12:32:26 am
What-if the F-16 designer has been a little crazy?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dz.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 14, 2020, 09:36:17 pm
What was before the F-16A? YF-16!
What was before the YF-16? Project 401? Wrong, simply XF-16 (without bubble canopy nor wing LERX): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ea.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on December 14, 2020, 09:56:02 pm
What-if the F-16 designer has been a little crazy?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dz.jpg)
The word WACKY popped to my mind (but I had to google it to confirm)  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 14, 2020, 10:28:35 pm
 ;D Thanks! Google Translate tells me wacky = eccentric (in my French: farfelu, fou-fou)
 ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 15, 2020, 12:34:08 am
And do you know the ramjet Falcons?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ec.jpg)
I put that also on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 15, 2020, 02:39:55 am
And how about the F-16LE-022?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 15, 2020, 06:18:03 am
Yes!: <_< ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ed.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 15, 2020, 07:56:01 am
Hmmm, I've got enough bits and pieces to build that too. ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Dizzyfugu on December 15, 2020, 08:39:06 am
Thanks! (trying to inspire modelers is the reason to post on this site) ;)

And today I am adding one more, like supersonic Mistel:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_dq.jpg)

That comes very close to the "Colibri" from the Yoko Tsuno comics (with its jettisonable engine pod):

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JNSZjySQZ7w/SJHlbc2F5qI/AAAAAAAAAO0/ig_pXtXAEuQ/s400/Colibri+2.JPG)

(http://modelstories.free.fr/analyses/avions/MS2001_4P/YOKO_Colibri/YOKO_Coli_Canon_1.JPG)

(http://)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 15, 2020, 09:10:55 am
Thanks to both of you!

And my searches for Leduc prototypes brought back in my memory the Leduc 030 project, and of course its F-16 derivative: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ee.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Captain Canada on December 15, 2020, 09:44:21 am
The VLR would make a great business jet Tophe !

I like the Fighting Serious. It looks like they are Finding Seriousness and holding hands. Or wings.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 15, 2020, 10:19:30 am
Thanks Captain!
I have immediately added it to my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_eg.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 15, 2020, 10:23:40 am
And my searches for Leduc prototypes brought back in my memory the Leduc 030 project, and of course its F-16 derivative: <_<
In the same searches I have discovered the Leduc 050: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ef.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 15, 2020, 11:04:21 am
And, rather similar, a derivative of the SNCASO Trident: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ei.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on December 15, 2020, 01:07:35 pm
 :thumbsup:

the Trident version would be do-able in plastic
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 16, 2020, 01:14:47 am
Thanks to be interested as a modeller (even if you never build it actually in the forthcoming years) <_<

And here is a different 2-seat Falcon, with 2 separate cockpits: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ek.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 16, 2020, 03:09:35 am
A different version with 2 separate cockpits: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_em.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 16, 2020, 07:21:33 pm
A new batch of "F-16s" today: <_<

8 engines in 2 pods to reach Mach 3:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_en.jpg)

crescent wing:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_eo.jpg)

parabolic wing:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ep.jpg)

ogival wing:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_eq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 16, 2020, 11:07:50 pm
Inspired by the weird 1/72 model of Focke-Wulf 860 at http://www.unicraft.biz/germ/fw860/fw860.htm
I imagine the German F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_er.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 17, 2020, 09:18:12 pm
Next ones today, F-16 like A-10 or like QT-2: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_et.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ev.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 18, 2020, 11:23:34 am
Thanks to Zero-Sen's Super-Griffon at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=44882.0
here are F-16s with turboramjet: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ew.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 19, 2020, 12:14:13 am
With four turboramjets, the F-16 became hypersonic: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwB_ex.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 19, 2020, 01:59:13 am
Do yu know why the Rockwell XFV-12 program was cancelled?
Because it was replaced by the XFV-16 (ordered and built in 1,016 copies but this is still top secret): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ab.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 19, 2020, 04:23:39 am
I tell you another secret: the F-16 was a project of the US Navy at first, as derivative of the XFY Pogo, that went step by step to the long landplane YF-16 with tailplanes. I show below the (not famous) missing links: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ad.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ae.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 19, 2020, 04:53:32 am
That's buildable too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 19, 2020, 06:47:37 am
Yes, I built the YFY-16J at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,46131.0.html
calling it VTOF-16 Tailsit Falcon
before reinventing today with other missing links. :unsure: ;D

And I may add another VTOL Falcon, working like the Ryan X-13 Vertijet: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ag.jpg)
I add it also on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 19, 2020, 07:40:39 am
Oooh the Vertijet! There's an aeroplane for you.  :thumbsup:

Who'd have thought of hanging a whole aeroplane on a piece of string to enable it to take-off and land?  :o :o

I have two X-13 kits, and haven't built either of them yet.  :banghead:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 19, 2020, 09:52:16 am
I have two X-13 kits, and haven't built either of them yet.  :banghead:
You could build them together as a zwilling X-13Z  (good for stability ?) ;)
Of course, I may show you the equivalent in the F-16 family: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ah.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 20, 2020, 12:06:30 am
Marketing speech: :-\
- Our long double delta F-16XL is the best fighter in the World!
- Too much expensive! The Mirage 2000 is better!
- Look, we could make the F-16XL also small and simple delta: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ai.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 20, 2020, 10:51:26 am
This F-16 had a great visibility but was not very solid: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_aj.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 21, 2020, 08:49:10 pm
8 engines in 2 pods to reach Mach 3:
With less ambition, 2 winged engines were considered (under/in/upon wings): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ak.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 21, 2020, 10:11:53 pm
Sorry I forgot the way "engines far above the wing" (VFW-Fokker 614): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_am.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 22, 2020, 12:54:21 am
I have discovered recently the F-16 DSI and I imagine a twin-jet version with 2 such large air intakes: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ao.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 22, 2020, 08:50:08 am
There was also a 4-engined F-16 in this sub family: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_aq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 22, 2020, 09:36:50 pm
Of course, a long time before the DSI air intake came, there were F-16 versions with 2 or 4 jets in the fuselage: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ar.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 23, 2020, 10:36:23 pm
Sorry I forgot the way "engines far above the wing" (VFW-Fokker 614): <_<
There is also the YC-14 way with jets on the upper side of the wing (like Antonov An-72/74 too): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_as.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 24, 2020, 02:03:55 am
Instead of eating pebbles, the air intake could eat the pilot bailing out: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_at.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 28, 2020, 01:14:30 am
There were many F-16 "in V" and related (U, W): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_aw.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on December 29, 2020, 03:08:53 am
from theChronicOne's topic https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48759.15
I have tried to draw the profile view of TheChronicOne's model
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_ax.jpg)

As well with A-10 front part instead of T-38: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwC_az.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 01, 2021, 06:47:36 am
I saw with Google a surprising F-16 partly hidden by a square... I keep it as a "different F-16"!
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_aa.jpg)

And in the country of the X-1 that broke the sound barrier, no need of air intake on the F-16, I think!
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ab.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 01, 2021, 08:39:43 am
This F-16 with very front nose-wheel has a harmonious aspect while dangerous as the air intake is eating mud and pebbles: :-\ ;D
(still for my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm )
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ad.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 01, 2021, 09:36:38 am
And for the experimental X-36, a F-16 could have been used simply, with little changes: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_af.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on January 01, 2021, 08:43:12 pm
Have you tried blending F-16 with Rockwell HiMAT or Rockwell-MBB X-31?
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 01, 2021, 08:57:15 pm
Have you tried blending F-16 with Rockwell HiMAT or Rockwell-MBB X-31?
The "piloted" version (project) of HiMat was so much looking like a F-16 that I classified it as F-16 cousin, not source of mix with F-16:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/o_HiMatFighter.jpg)

For the X-31 also, the position of its air intake makes it a F-16 cousin rather than inspiration for derivatives, I thought, but you are right, I may try for both.
(Up to now, they were in chapter 2 cousins of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm rather then subchapter 3C drawing creations)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on January 01, 2021, 10:53:24 pm
The F-16 HiMAT looks good, whatever classification.
An F-16 / X-31 might end up looking like a short F-16 XL with the thrust vectoring paddles.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: NARSES2 on January 02, 2021, 05:41:44 am
Interesting concepts
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 02, 2021, 07:40:58 am
Thanks! <_<

An F-16 / X-31 might end up looking like a short F-16 XL with the thrust vectoring paddles.
Like this? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ah.jpg)

It looks like your one: ;)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/o_f16xs_petitCanard.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on January 02, 2021, 08:17:14 am
Thanks! <_<

An F-16 / X-31 might end up looking like a short F-16 XL with the thrust vectoring paddles.
Like this? <_<
...

You put more X-31 into it than I expected - and I like it.

Mine is ridiculously short  ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 02, 2021, 08:56:06 am
Thanks!

Mine is ridiculously short  ;D
My opinion is different:
- in the what-if world, "ridiculous" means "funny" which means "very good"!
- I love your one :wub: , better than my one (too much long alas) :-\
 ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on January 02, 2021, 09:44:23 am
Thanks!

Mine is ridiculously short  ;D
My opinion is different:
- in the what-if world, "ridiculous" means "funny" which means "very good"!

Yes it is. Funny  ;)

and certainly not "realistic"  :mellow:  ;D  :wacko:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 03, 2021, 09:50:16 am
Have you tried blending F-16 with Rockwell HiMAT?
The F-16 HiMAT looks good, whatever classification.
The picture above was a HiMAT with a canopy and missiles under wings, but I may imagine a true F-16 with HiMAT influence: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_aj.jpg)
Thanks! <_<
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 03, 2021, 08:32:03 pm
When Lockheed bought General Dynamics/Convair, the old team that designed the F-104 piloted missile judged: "this Falcon is ridiculous; too much wing area, not enough wing loading, and this low tailplane behind the wing is bad, let us correct this!" The F-16F-104 was born! ("a star is born" said Hollywood) <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ak.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 04, 2021, 01:16:25 am
I have found the 1945 ancestors of the project F-16Z then prototype YF-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_am.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_an.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 04, 2021, 03:18:23 am
The Marganski EM-10 Bielik looks like a twin-fin F-16B, but a modified F-16 like below could do quite the same: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ap.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 04, 2021, 05:26:42 am
Zero-Lauch Take-Off is possible with Falcons too: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_aq.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 05, 2021, 12:54:59 am
Have you tried blending F-16 with Rockwell HiMAT?
The F-16 HiMAT looks good, whatever classification.
I forgot that our friend CamNut built one F-16 HiMAT-like 3 years ago: https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=44704.0  :wub:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 05, 2021, 01:48:10 am
The Vickers 559 project does not look like a F-16 completely but may inspire missing links: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_as.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 05, 2021, 07:28:25 am
And a F-16 direct from Hollywood's space program: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_at.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on January 05, 2021, 09:15:26 am
Have you tried blending F-16 with Rockwell HiMAT?
The F-16 HiMAT looks good, whatever classification.
I forgot that our friend CamNut built one F-16 HiMAT-like 3 years ago: https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=44704.0  :wub:
I must have missed it completely. Thanks for pointing it out!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 06, 2021, 03:23:43 am
Today I have added on my site (of what-if F-16s) http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
6 pictures from the web, including this one:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16-roblox2-.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 07, 2021, 03:49:21 am
The mix F-16/Alouette 2 was not a helicopter but featured a panoramic canopy (for subsonic flight only): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_aw.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on January 07, 2021, 06:24:19 am
 ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 07, 2021, 07:58:44 pm
Thanks! And maybe, ericr, you are the inspiration of this drawing above, putting an helicopter cockpit/nose on your airplane models, once or twice I don't remember ;D

Now, "more seriously", here are two VTOL Falcons, inspired by the Yak-141 Freestyle: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ay.jpg)
Yes, I am happy these two are (supersonic) twin-boomers! ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 10, 2021, 06:08:12 am
2 new unusual F-16s for the day:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_az.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ba.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 10, 2021, 08:42:49 am
and 3 more F-16, on F-16XL basis:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bb.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bc.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bd.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 10, 2021, 09:53:17 pm
other tandem F-16: A+XL (or XL+A):  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_be.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 12, 2021, 11:18:24 am
Fairchild did design several transports for the Saturn rocket, a reduced scale one could have been loaded on a special F-16:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bf.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 13, 2021, 09:11:38 pm
The F-16XL gave birth to a kind of Javelin II:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bh.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 15, 2021, 08:12:03 am
I have made the drawing of a short F-16 without tailplanes then I saw that perttime did almost the same a long time ago. Anyway they are a little different, enriching the family:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bi.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 19, 2021, 09:51:31 am
This could have been the "true" Lightning II...  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bj.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 27, 2021, 11:01:09 am
The F-16C Block 52 gave birth to a whole family (in my mind):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bm.jpg)
= http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bm.jpg
for my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 30, 2021, 11:22:20 am
One F-16 version was inspired by the Messerschmitt 163 Komet with rocket engine:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bn.jpg)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on January 30, 2021, 12:02:01 pm
And a very symmetric long F-16:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bo.jpg)
= http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bo.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 30, 2021, 01:28:01 pm
That'd be an F-19 then.  ;D

Half way between and F-16 and an F-22...............  ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 08, 2021, 07:57:19 am
Half way between and F-16 and an F-22...............  ;)
Even closer to your idea (thanks!): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bp.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bp.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 09, 2021, 10:21:50 pm
Another F-16, inspired by the Yugoslavian Ikarus I-452: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_br.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_br.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 10, 2021, 12:28:07 am
And a double F-16A may be different from the F-16B: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bs.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bs.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 12, 2021, 10:32:10 am
Biplane F-16 and scale-o-rama F-16s: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bt.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bu.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bt.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bu.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 13, 2021, 10:54:17 am
Thanks to Google Pictures, I have found a new F-16 cartoon: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/u_f16caric-EG-.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/u_f16caric-EG-.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 16, 2021, 01:28:36 am
The bubble canopy is elegant but less safe than a metal one maybe: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bv.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bv.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 22, 2021, 09:06:20 pm
Great news today April 1st 1979: the F-16 has been ordered by the RAF! to be built in the factory that made the Harrier, no?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ca.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ca.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 23, 2021, 07:18:54 pm
Several intermediates are possible between F-16 and F-111 (the 3 ones below may have different scales): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cb.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cb.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 26, 2021, 06:02:07 am
When the Mc Donnell factory built the F-16, it installed a F-4 nose: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cc.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cc.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 26, 2021, 06:51:40 am
Another version had a F-4-like tail (twin-jet): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ce.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ce.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on February 26, 2021, 10:02:40 am
Ive always thought that the F-4 nose looks mean. It makes the F-16 looks angry too.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on February 26, 2021, 11:24:48 am
Ive always thought that the F-4 nose looks mean. It makes the F-16 looks angry too.
I agree: not pretty but different ;) what-if this was actually built? ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 02, 2021, 06:11:06 am
There was also a huge F-16 version inspired by the XB-70 Valkyrie: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ci.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ci.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 02, 2021, 07:58:15 am
And a F-16 without air intake: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ck.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ck.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 02, 2021, 08:29:03 am
Put wheels on it and you've got a Land Speed Record car!  :o
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 02, 2021, 09:12:21 am
Yes, I made such a drawing (of land racer) last year:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_af.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_af.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 03, 2021, 01:42:10 am
Then the missing links between Bede BD-5J and F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cn.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cn.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 04, 2021, 01:22:26 am
And two F-16s were inspired by Sepecat Jaguars: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_co.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_co.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 04, 2021, 07:13:32 am
A Concorde-Falcon mix was designed as ConCon, but this name was refused in France where this is meaning BastardBastard... :-\
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cp.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cp.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 04, 2021, 07:55:15 pm
There were also scale-o-rama F-16s with Boeing 777 nose: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cr.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cr.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 05, 2021, 12:08:35 am
At https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=30511.2430 I am glad I discovered a kind of Swedish F-16 design (Saab A-36/1300-76C).
I have tried to install its canopy on the true F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cs.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cs.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 05, 2021, 06:23:54 am
Falcon clocks with big clocks: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ct.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ct.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 06, 2021, 02:20:32 am
I have added F-16s with an unusual glazed nose, taking inspiration from Ilyushin 76 Candid, Me-262 Schwalbe, Berlin B-9: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cy.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cy2.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cy.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_cy2.jpg

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 08, 2021, 11:20:36 am
not pretty but special: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_binez.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16_binez.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 11, 2021, 02:37:09 am
I found on the web a surprising F-16 video set for child: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16eg-todoco-console.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16eg-todoco-console.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 12, 2021, 01:18:52 am
As the back of the F-16 is growing, we can go further in this direction:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_da.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_da.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 12, 2021, 08:00:24 am
I have found on the web a very weird F-16 motorcycle:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/u_f16moto.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/u_f16moto.jpg

I added it on my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on March 12, 2021, 09:12:19 am
 :o

do-able in plastic ?  ;D

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 12, 2021, 10:33:45 am
Thanks Ericr for your liking this Photoshop picture like I did ;)

I have added several F-16s again:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_db.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_de.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dg.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_di.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dj.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_db.jpg
+  http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_de.jpg
+  http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dg.jpg
+  http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_di.jpg
+  http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dj.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 12, 2021, 11:08:58 am
And a last one for today:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dk.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dk.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 13, 2021, 10:54:43 pm
"improving" the symmetry front/rear of the F-16, the technical/aerodynamic justification for that is: having fun  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dn.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dn.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 14, 2021, 12:03:53 am
symmetry up/down is more useful, creating a  tailsitter:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_do.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_do.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 14, 2021, 03:24:13 am
ericr presented a great model mixing OH-6 Cayuse and P-38 at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37003.3435
That made me dream of a related OH-6/F-16 mix:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dr.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dr.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 14, 2021, 03:53:55 am
Opposite helicopter, closer to ericr's marvel: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ds.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ds.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 16, 2021, 10:29:53 pm
Three fins or two fins may have been better for the F-16 to win over the F-17: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dt.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dt.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 17, 2021, 04:56:02 am
The F-16s sold to many European countries used front parts from the Eurocopter Tigre helicopter: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dv.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dv.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on March 17, 2021, 05:20:51 am
ericr presented a great model mixing OH-6 Cayuse and P-38 at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37003.3435
That made me dream of a related OH-6/F-16 mix:

astonishing dream !
and anticipating a bit on my next post  ;)

by the way, I have a F16 in my stash ...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 18, 2021, 04:33:02 am
Thanks!

Then a very long range F-16, at very low speed most of the time: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dy.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_dy.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 19, 2021, 02:08:52 am
I have found a weird flying F-16 toy with a central pusher propeller: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_-f16rcPushProfil.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_-f16rcPushProfil.jpg
(not found with F-16 nor Falcon on Google but in a P-51 search)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 19, 2021, 02:34:56 am
Conclusion from the 2 previous posts: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eb.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eb.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: darthspud2 on March 19, 2021, 03:31:05 am
got a few variants, just need to figure out how to attach pics (again)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on March 19, 2021, 03:49:05 am
Many R/C modelers/fliers build simple and light jet-look models, and put the propeller in a "slot" in the fuselage and wing. Heres one:

(https://www.theparkpilot.org/sites/default/files/hobbyking-glue-n-go-mig-29.jpg)

Photo is from https://www.theparkpilot.org/hobbyking-glue-n-go-mig-29
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 19, 2021, 03:58:24 am
Good! ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 19, 2021, 05:32:43 am
got a few variants, just need to figure out how to attach pics (again)
Maybe Imgur will help you successfully, as Photobucket is not free anymore.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Flyer on March 19, 2021, 06:09:48 am
I have found a weird flying F-16 toy with a central pusher propeller: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_-f16rcPushProfil.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_-f16rcPushProfil.jpg
(not found with F-16 nor Falcon on Google but in a P-51 search)

I have one of those, I brought it for my daughter to use when she is old enough but I have already launched it a few times for her. They are small electric free flight models made of a soft sponge type foam with a timed motor that charges via USB, motor run's for about 15 seconds each flight but it can get some good height in that time. Actually very clever in design, they are purposefully tail heavy and have the thrust line up high so that when the motor is running it's keeping the plane level, when the motor stops it stalls and flip flops back down, and that's great because if it went into a glide from the height it it gets then it would fly away! And yes up close it sort of resembles a F-16 but in the air I think it looks more like an A-6 Intruder.

Many R/C modelers/fliers build simple and light jet-look models, and put the propeller in a "slot" in the fuselage and wing. Heres one:

(https://www.theparkpilot.org/sites/default/files/hobbyking-glue-n-go-mig-29.jpg)

Photo is from https://www.theparkpilot.org/hobbyking-glue-n-go-mig-29

I have built and flown several of those style foam board models, don't actually have one at the moment but I really should build another as they are great fun. The last one I had was styled on the F-22.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 20, 2021, 01:52:36 am
Thanks for this confirmation of the interest of false jets for fun.

Then I drew other what-if F-16s:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ed.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ee.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ef.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ed.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ee.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ef.jpg
I have added them on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm (with many flying false jets F-16, chapter 3A)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 20, 2021, 11:06:18 am
There is another version of F-16 with a nose air intake, but thin with a very little jet engine:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16-super-viper-2.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16-super-viper-2.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 26, 2021, 04:55:10 am
To replace French Mirage F1CR, the F-16 was using a refueling boom and vertical camera:  <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eh.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eh.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 27, 2021, 12:01:57 pm
It is forbidden to reveal top secret planes :angry: , so: let us say this is a what-if joke <_< . The Tacit Blue project would involve a F-16... ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ei.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ei.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 27, 2021, 10:53:58 pm
I don't know if AEW means Airborne Electronic Warfare or/and Airborne Early Warning but there are F-16 for AEW role(s): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ej.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ej.jpg

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 27, 2021, 11:19:00 pm
I have seen on the web a Fokker 100 testbed with the nose of a Rafale, and similar may have been done on a F-16 (ZF-16 after the YF-16) to test a half-scale F-16A nose: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ek.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ek.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 31, 2021, 01:51:17 am
Is this the most ugly F-16 ever? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_en.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_en.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 31, 2021, 03:45:43 am
YES!  :banghead:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on March 31, 2021, 03:54:50 am
Thanks for this confirmation!

The next one has a high wing, I imagine it as a carrier of big water tanks for water-bombing of forest fires: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eo.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eo.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 01, 2021, 01:56:23 am
I have been inspired by the cute Meng Models (seen on the web, I have not built one, yet): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ep.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ep.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 01, 2021, 05:08:05 am
There was also a Meng Model of single-seater, that inspired me as well: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_er.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_er.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 01, 2021, 08:47:41 pm
Did you know the Eurofighter was a F-16 derivative (of the canard version like the Lavi)? :unsure:
Below is the proof (that I found in Secret archives in Mydreams Town).
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/eurofighter1000_typhoo.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/eurofighter1000_typhoo.jpg
Due to copyright Ł billions charge, this Eurofighter 1000 Typhoo was cancelled and a twin-engined version came (Eurofighter 2000 Typhoon) ;)

I have added it of course to my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 02, 2021, 05:13:00 am
Close up, a Typhoon is NOTHING like an F-16, but then this is Whiff World..............
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2021, 10:06:23 am
Yes, in my what-if universe, I have today added my 4th MiG of the (extended) F-16 family: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/MiG-29M1.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/MiG-29M1.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2021, 10:14:21 pm
Of course these MiG F-16s were jokes, but... the Sukhoy F-16 was serious (seriously whif): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/su27m-1.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/su27m-1.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2021, 11:05:47 pm
Even more seriously, let us go to space! <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_es.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_es.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2021, 12:27:38 am
Why an air intake on a rocket?
Ahem, the engine is more complex than that, it is rocket+ramjet:
- rocket only at launch
- ramjet in the atmosphere
- rocket in outer space
 ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on April 03, 2021, 03:37:24 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2021, 09:15:55 am
Thanks!

Now seriousness is off, let us be delirious. Below is the first electric F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eu.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_eu.jpg
Ahem, this is not a flying machine powered by electric engine, this is a desk toy looking like the symbol of electricity :-\ :unsure: ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 03, 2021, 09:25:54 am
Perhaps a stock F-16 with a pantograph on the top to collect power from the overhead wires?  ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2021, 10:09:03 am
Yes! Thanks! ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ex.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ex.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 03, 2021, 10:23:42 am
Hehehehe, LOVE it!  ;D :wub:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2021, 10:27:33 am
Thanks!

Before drawing the F-16 locomotive to cure Kit's need, I was working on a less serious project: a F-16 smoothing iron (what-if only, not to use actually) <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ew.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ew.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on April 03, 2021, 01:03:42 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

let us have a try to doing it in plastic !

Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2021, 09:59:09 pm
Thanks!
But do you know a flying "smoothing iron" have actually been built and flown? (or several, in many countries) ;)
See https://www.midilibre.fr/2013/02/20/un-ovni-dans-le-ciel-de-perpignan-non-juste-un-fer-a-repasser-volant,647703.php
They are true flying models with the shape of a smoothing iron but probably they cannot be used to smooth clothes.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 04, 2021, 04:39:59 am
Then a F-16 with a canard foreplane hold by twin-booms: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ey.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ey.jpg

Of course happens the question: "why such a design?".
The answer is: to answer another question: "what-if this was tried?" ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 04, 2021, 10:57:35 am
Of course, the designs above were rejected by the design bureau boss, even before general clients refused them.
The main problem was the fragility of the huge foreplane, but this could be cured (below)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ez.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ez.jpg
(without more success, that is why you never saw them in the air) :-\

I also added it on my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 05, 2021, 08:41:18 am
This canard twin-boom F-16 was a little better with twin fins (fins at the rear of these booms), but still rejected :-\
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fa.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fa.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 09, 2021, 09:29:39 am
Like TheChronicOne built a F-16/T-38 mix at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48759.0
I am imagining a F-16/F-20 mix: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fc.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fc.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 10, 2021, 01:34:12 am
Thanks to Firefox F/E-18F model at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=49157.0
here is the similar twin-fin F/E-16F: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fe.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fe.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on April 11, 2021, 12:06:01 am
Like TheChronicOne built a F-16/T-38 mix at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48759.0
I am imagining a F-16/F-20 mix: <_<
...
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fc.jpg
One thing that I've been wondering is: what if you put an F-16 canopy on an F-20.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 11, 2021, 02:28:40 am
Thanks for this idea, immediately turned into drawing (and I add a more F-16ish derivative of mine): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ff.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_ff.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 11, 2021, 11:32:01 am
Little flying models may have a mouse little animal as passenger, but be careful it may be attacked by an eagle (not a F-15 Eagle but a golden eagle or else): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fh.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fh.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ysi_maniac on April 11, 2021, 12:36:23 pm
A F-16XL with (very little) canards has been built by leptitprince and is featured on my site.

I have made the drawing of the AL-16 Concorde II: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ae.jpg)

Love this "widebody"
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ysi_maniac on April 11, 2021, 06:04:09 pm
Combining F-16 and F-20

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/F16_F20_1.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/45594a49-2ca2-4bad-8256-a9ac66bcef6b)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 11, 2021, 07:55:06 pm
 :wub: Very good, thanks! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 13, 2021, 12:12:47 pm
In 1986, the new Soviet President M.Gorbachev wanted a new symbol for communism, featuring F-16s of Western friends (no WW3! hurrah!): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ac.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ac.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 14, 2021, 10:58:19 am
For diner soup, I was ready to peel vegetables when I saw a weird carrot, bifid. I took a photograph. Then, during cooking, I drew a similar F-16, thanks Mother Nature for this inspiration! <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ae.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ae.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on April 14, 2021, 09:41:42 pm
When I was a kid, we were growing our own vegetables, including carrots. Sometimes they looked like trousers, with both "legs the same length. I'm sure I saw one with three "legs" too.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 14, 2021, 09:58:22 pm
Thanks: you are very right, Google found the photograph of a carrot with three legs at https://savvygardening.com/snapped-good-carrots-gone-wrong/
Maybe I could try to draw also such a F-16 ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 14, 2021, 11:14:37 pm
Thanks perttime! you are the father of the trifid (carrot) F-16! <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_af.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_af.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 15, 2021, 11:44:20 am
other creations of yesterday and today: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ah.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fi.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fj.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ah.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fi.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_fj.jpg

This is to update my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 16, 2021, 02:19:19 am
When the Soviet Union created a device to lock the "enemy" planes' undercarriage inside (for crash landing after return), a fixed landing gear was created again, taking the old Gee Bee as source: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ai.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ai.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 17, 2021, 08:42:06 pm
Architects may also be inspired by the F-16 for designing buildings, see the New Pentagon (in my dreams): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_aj.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_aj.jpg

And the single-engined version (what-if) of the Yak-130 seems also to belong to the F-16 family: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Yak-130_like-f-16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Yak-130_like-f-16.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 18, 2021, 09:02:50 am
Is this F-16 captured by USSR or sold to Russia? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/soviet-f-16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/soviet-f-16.jpg
P.S. the file name (soviet-f-16.jpg) is my own, not a proof of anything :-\ ;)
and Russia was a part of USSR for the html source name, not a proof also.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 18, 2021, 12:01:13 pm
Did you know that the YF-17 was a F-16 herself? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/northrop_yf-17_to-16.gif)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/northrop_yf-17_to-16.gif
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ysi_maniac on April 19, 2021, 05:39:02 pm
Very sweet! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 21, 2021, 03:11:32 am
Thanks!

And I have found a F-16 safe UAV (without eating pebbles) on which a pilot was installed again (to be eaten by the jet if bailing out): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_am.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_am.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 21, 2021, 05:35:31 am
F-107 Mk II.  ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 21, 2021, 06:27:26 am
Thanks for the smile.
In fact, this was reinventing it again as UAV, because I drew a F-16F-107 months ago, slightly different: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ax.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drw_ax.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 24, 2021, 05:27:29 am
It is famous that the F-16 is an actress that played in many military movies, but she also tried science-fiction, without being selected alas:  :-\ <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_an.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_an.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 27, 2021, 01:41:01 am
With my time machine, History is a little changed. The BAC TSR-1 was rejected as "too much American, looking copied on the F-16", that is why the TSR-2 replaced it (looking French like a Mirage being less condemned), before cancellation at last: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/bac_tsr-1.gif)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/bac_tsr-1.gif
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 28, 2021, 10:41:05 pm
On the web, I found a F-16 rocker (for children?): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16rocker.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16rocker.jpg
The P-51 rocker in the background is funny too.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on April 29, 2021, 10:25:16 am
The X-29 could have been based on the F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-29f-16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-29f-16.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 16, 2021, 09:08:54 am
After the AV-8B success, the F-16 was transformed in the same way: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ao.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ao.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 17, 2021, 05:04:51 am
Some improvement occured on the Harrier-Falcon mix: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_aq.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_aq.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 19, 2021, 03:56:05 am
A circular air intake was dangerous for the pilot if the ejection seat is weak (that is why it was not built, probably): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ar.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ar.jpg
(today's addition to my F-16 whif site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm )
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 19, 2021, 09:25:22 am
The Russian Foton with 3 engines looks like a F-16 cousin in my single-engine version: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/_foton-16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/_foton-16.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2021, 08:07:52 am
The Sukhoy S-54 first proposal (with a chin air intake) was also looking like a F-16 but alas with two fins, this needed a F-16ish what-if derivative, of course: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/sukhoi-s54-first16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/sukhoi-s54-first16.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2021, 10:08:40 am
And between regular F-16 and Sukhoy S-54, here is the missing link: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_at.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_at.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2021, 09:06:54 pm
And a MiG project could look like a F-16 with great similarity: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/MiG-I33bubble.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/MiG-I33bubble.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2021, 09:58:26 pm
A Tupolev source with cryogenic fuel (high volume) inspired F-16 designers (in my dreams): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_au.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_au.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 27, 2021, 09:26:04 pm
To get more volume for tanks, a more radical way would have been choosing a circular section fuselage: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_av.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_av.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2021, 08:13:03 am
This is a different twin-boom F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_aw.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_aw.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 29, 2021, 10:21:15 am
When the F-16 won the "sale of the Century", the Mirage F.1E lost, and the French government refused to confirm its order of F.1E, or delta Mirage 2000 as well (or as bad), instead Dassault was commanded to build a French F-16: the Mirage 2016: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/mirage2016c.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/mirage2016c.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 30, 2021, 02:25:43 am
Decades later, French sellers saw the same nightmare happen again: Poland refused the Rafale (expensive with 2 engines) to prefer buying the F-16... In urgency was proposed a F-16-like Rafale R-16 but it was too late alas (except for us what-ifers liking imaginative designs). <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/rafale_R-16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/rafale_R-16.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 30, 2021, 03:06:10 am
Top Secret!
Here is the source of the XF-16 (that did not come from nowhere): the SR-716 was a derivative of the SR-71, that lacked range for SR mission but became the fighter F-16, no? :unsure: ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/sr-716-.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/sr-716-.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 31, 2021, 06:58:08 am
There is a weird canopy on a Lippisch project (available as Unicraft kit: http://www.unicraft.biz/germ/li15-5/li15-5.htm) and a F-16 (or two) should try this: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ay.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ay.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on May 31, 2021, 07:30:52 am
And another F-16 was inspired by the Bv P.192, long range with a turboprop (not supersonic though): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_az.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_az.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 01, 2021, 10:16:44 am
To complete the AV-8B came the VF-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ba.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ba.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 01, 2021, 11:42:56 am
A triple-rotor VTOL F-16 was too much serious, sorry :-\, while I swear I am a what-ifer not a Historian, so here is a F-16 Hollywood actress: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bb.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bb.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 05, 2021, 09:54:11 am
I have found several F-16 new cartoons with Google today (checking the replacement old computer tools): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r2_f16picuki.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r2_f16picuki.jpg
I have added them to my what-if F-16 collection at http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 14, 2021, 09:35:28 am
I have found on the web a very schematic F-16 and  imagine a slightly less schematic version: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bc.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bc.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 18, 2021, 09:49:31 am
I have found on the web a very schematic F-16 and  imagine a slightly less schematic version: <_<
I have imagined a profile view of the same (it is better not to have a weak ejection seat) :unsure: :-\ :-\ ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bf.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bf.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 21, 2021, 06:27:15 am
pinterest directed me to Deviant Art with a nice profile by our friend bagera3005: Yukikaze FA-2 Fand II. This was a good inspiration for a new generation F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bg.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bg.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 22, 2021, 09:38:10 am
This is not a F-16 like usual but on a whif planet, this is "normal", no? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bi.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bi.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 22, 2021, 10:13:29 am
More classical for me is a twin-boom twin-engine F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bj.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bj.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 22, 2021, 08:51:28 pm
This version is a triplex-boom F-16 but with a twin-boom rear: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bk.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bk.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 23, 2021, 06:45:53 am
This one is a little different, with 2 engines also but 3 noses: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bm.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bm.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 25, 2021, 05:17:45 am
I think the F-16 is an animal, a bird, but other ones pretend she is a dog: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bo.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bo.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: ericr on June 25, 2021, 06:53:02 am
 :o big teeth
 ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 25, 2021, 07:42:03 am
Thanks for the smile ;)

Uh, I know the Everly Brothers' song "bird dog" but I don't understand the meaning of this. The first lyrics seems to mean "gentle bad" but I am not sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c3M2jGkzko
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 26, 2021, 03:08:52 am
Here are other Falcons, inspired by Crusader III and Short SC.1: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bp.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bq.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bp.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bq.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 26, 2021, 04:31:40 am
And 3 other F-16s, from Sukhoy prototypes influence: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_br.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bs.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bt.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_br.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bs.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bt.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on June 26, 2021, 10:09:37 am
The Beta Alia-250c is a 4-rotor VTOL with a pusher propeller, while the F-16 Beta (in my dream) is a 4-rotor related jet, subsonic: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bu.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bu.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 01, 2021, 08:13:19 pm
A twin-boom version of the 4-rotor Beta F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bv.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bv.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 13, 2021, 09:48:14 pm
Still other ones: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bw.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bx.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bw.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bx.jpg
(for my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 15, 2021, 05:27:30 am
Inspired by the silhouette of Vought ADAM (Unicraft Model resin kit, see http://www.unicraft.biz/on/adam/adam.htm), the F-16 Adam was different in being not VTOL and having classical jet air-intake/nozzle: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_by.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_by.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 15, 2021, 08:15:54 am
After deep search in secret archives (in my mind), I have found the missing link: the XF-16AD prototype was a true VTOL Falcon with Air Deflection And Modulation: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bz.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_bz.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Zero-Sen on July 15, 2021, 08:50:32 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 19, 2021, 06:41:26 am
Thanks!

And I am mixing the F-16 with the Martin B-10 of 1934, as a what-ifer I am not afraid of anachronism: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ca.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ca.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 21, 2021, 03:20:07 am
Like the C-131 in flight simulator, a F-16 had a student in the nose but prone: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cd.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cd.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 21, 2021, 08:33:51 am
A mix of F-16 and Scaled 281 Proteus (scale-o-rama): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cg.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cg.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 21, 2021, 09:02:12 am
Then a mix of F-16 and Dornier Do-31 (scale-o-rama): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cj.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cj.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 22, 2021, 09:09:52 am
I have found on the web a childish drawing of 1985 looking like a F-16 airliner: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16-dessin_b.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16-dessin_b.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 26, 2021, 08:39:06 am
I have found on the web a "F-16 Mamba" based on the XL: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16mamba.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_f16mamba.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 26, 2021, 09:40:46 am
And from a Ching Kuo eggplane model kit, inspiring: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cn2.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cn2.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 27, 2021, 03:29:53 am
What-if there was a "true" F-16 eggplane?: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_co.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_co.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 28, 2021, 06:19:09 am
An Airacuda-like F-16??!! Are you kidding? This would be crazy! Worse: this would be "what-if"!: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cq.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cq.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 28, 2021, 06:59:58 am
And from a Ching Kuo eggplane model kit, inspiring: <_<
As well with a classical F-15 eggplane from Hasegawa, towards a different F-16 egg (not Hasegawa's F-16 eggplane): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cs.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cs.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 30, 2021, 08:55:11 am
There was a Mistel Falcon, obviously, this in flight photograph standing as proof: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-16-mistel2.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f-16-mistel2.jpg
(the words "modified by", and the name of a damned what-ifer, are traps to fool the spies, pretending this very secret winner is a fake!)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on July 31, 2021, 09:24:37 am
One turboprop Falcon was featuring a Channel Wing: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cx.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cx.jpg
(for my F-16 what-if site: http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm )
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on July 31, 2021, 10:36:18 pm
As well with a classical F-15 eggplane from Hasegawa, towards a different F-16 egg (not Hasegawa's F-16 eggplane): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cs.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cs.jpg
That is cute.
It is fat enough to have a propeller inside, like the Stipa-Caproni:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Stipa-Caproni_front_quarter_view.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipa-Caproni
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 01, 2021, 12:25:34 am
Thanks perttime for the idea! :thumbsup:
Immediately turned into another F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cz.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_cz.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 01, 2021, 04:22:48 am
If you wonder: "why is there, on the Stipa-Falcon, this little air intake at the bottom while there is already a so huge air-intake above (enough to feed an extra turbojet if required to complete the inducted propeller)?", the technical answer is "hehehe, joke!", and the fantasy answer is "to remind the lineage with the 'normal' F-16..." ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on August 01, 2021, 08:56:46 am
If you wonder: "why is there, on the Stipa-Falcon, this little air intake at the bottom while there is already a so huge air-intake above (enough to feed an extra turbojet if required to complete the inducted propeller)?", the technical answer is "hehehe, joke!", and the fantasy answer is "to remind the lineage with the 'normal' F-16..." ;)
There's usually something on an aircraft that needs cooling.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 01, 2021, 09:38:10 am
Thanks! So: there is an explanation, not zero! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 02, 2021, 01:30:49 am
Looking like a Bautek Pamir hang glider, the F-16DP was stealthy, featuring a fabric wing! It was first flown (and crashed at take-off) on 1976 April 1st:
 :-\
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_da.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_da.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 02, 2021, 09:27:09 am
I have found on the web a whole family of aircraft "like F-16" from a Turkish technical school: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/conceptAE405_all-f16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/conceptAE405_all-f16.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on August 02, 2021, 11:07:20 am
^ I see Rockwell Saberbat (second from top)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3580/3356465527_c36d82a4c2.jpg)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/n303wr/3356465527
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 02, 2021, 11:12:51 am
You are very right, thanks! https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/grumman-fsw-x-29-g-712-and-its-rivals.208/
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 03, 2021, 03:35:42 am
There was a FSW F-16 project, but, as far as the profile only is concerned I have modified a normal F-16 to look like a Sabrebat, with large canopy and little fin: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_db.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_db.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 05, 2021, 11:32:48 pm
A Falcon F-16 and an Ilyushin 102 married and they had a baby, named F-16L-102... <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dc.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dc.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 06, 2021, 09:39:03 am
What-if the new president says "Airshows must be safe! No need of separate aircraft close to one another, this is unnecessary risky, a single aircraft could do the job better!". "Yes sir!", sir: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16TB_b.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16TB_c.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16TB_b.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16TB_c.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 07, 2021, 10:27:16 pm
A very swept wing (like on the ONERA Deltaviex of 1953) is good for high speeds (bad for low speeds): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_df.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_df.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 08, 2021, 04:11:10 am
Another newborn, the daughter of a F-16 Falcon and a Mil Mi-28 Havoc: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_di.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_di.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 10, 2021, 06:20:39 pm
With Corel Draw software, it is easy to draw a vectorial F-16 eggplane: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16TB_d.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16TB_d.jpg
(still for my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm )
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 10, 2021, 10:25:20 pm
Maybe the F-16 for Belgium should have kept the bubble-less canopy of the Mirage 5BA: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dk.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dk.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 11, 2021, 09:27:15 pm
Thanks ysi_maniac!; <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dn.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dn.jpg
Take-off run approximately: 25 miles!
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 11, 2021, 09:51:12 pm
An similar while different, the mix between F-16 and Ar-232: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_do.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_do.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 12, 2021, 01:49:59 am
Now mixes with Curtiss and Hawker WW2 single-seaters: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dr.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_du.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dr.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_du.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 12, 2021, 05:19:16 am
As well (or as bad) there were mixes of F-16 with the "beauties" Gannet and Seamew: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dy.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dy.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 13, 2021, 01:18:14 am
Selling the F-16 to the French "Armée de l'Air" seemed almost impossible, despite usual "ways". An old general was stubborn refusing the F-16. So the American sellers asked to a French psychologist how to improve their offers. The psy studied the file then answered: "your F-16 is too much pretty, the general concludes this is not serious, you must be as ugly as an Amiot 143M, Farman 221, Bréguet 410", so such derivatives were designed, and 1,000 copies were orered! No? <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dz.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_dz.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: perttime on August 13, 2021, 01:46:04 am
Selling the F-16 to the French "Armée de l'Air" seemed almost impossible, despite usual "ways". An old general was stubborn refusing the F-16. So the American sellers asked to a French psychologist how to improve their offers. The psy studied the file then answered: "your F-16 is too much pretty, the general concludes this is not serious, you must be as ugly as an Amiot 143M, Farman 221, Bréguet 410", so such derivatives were designed, and 1,000 copies were orered! No? <_<
...
It must be different for French designs. After all, many good looking designs were ordered from Dassault.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 13, 2021, 02:18:26 am
You are right: Marcel Dassault is famous for having said something like "a good aircraft is a pretty aircraft" (or "a pretty aircraft is a good aircraft") and the Etendard II or else were good-looking yes. ;D
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 14, 2021, 07:10:12 am
Of Mad Max movie fame, the Transavia PL-12 Airtruk was a weird twin-boom biplane agricultural plane, but it lacked speed. A F-16 derivative joined the family improving this: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ea.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ea.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 15, 2021, 07:41:49 am
Scale-o-rama mixes between F-16 and:
- Boeing B-29 Superfortress
- Abrams P-1 Explorer
<_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ed.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ed.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 16, 2021, 02:04:16 am
from https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=20326.5640
The Abrams P-1 Explorer of 1938 was slow, and in 1939 it was improved with retractable undercarriage and inline engine: <_<
inspiring : its nose looks a bit mlike a sikorski s-51 ...
Thanks for reminding me the Explorer nose looks a little like the S.51, this one becomes the source of another F-16 <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ef.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ef.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 17, 2021, 02:30:36 am
For making a Hollywood film, there was a need of a P-80 Shooting Star, but none was available (nor similar T-33) so a F-16 was transformed to play the role: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_eg.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_eg.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 17, 2021, 10:05:35 pm
The USAF wanted a faster F-117 and this was done on a F-16 basis: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ej.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ej.jpg

On the opposite, Burt Rutan wanted to propose a jet-Vari-Eze and considered a F-16 basis for her: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_em.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_em.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 18, 2021, 01:18:00 am
The USAF wanted a faster F-117 and this was done on a F-16 basis: <_<
Another F-16/F-117 (aka F-19) mix removed the bubble canopy: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_eo.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_eo.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 20, 2021, 02:47:16 am
This is the fastest F-16 ever (Mach 3+): <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ep.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ep.jpg

(for my F-16 what-if site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/f16ofil.htm )
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 21, 2021, 03:41:17 am
I found on the web like a F-16 cousin, not exactly F-16 but close: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/freepik-like-f16.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/freepik-like-f16.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 25, 2021, 04:09:20 am
Some minor F-16s were designed inspired by the prototype Avro 707 and the drone GAF Jindivik: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_er.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_et.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_er.jpg
+ http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_et.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2021, 09:08:56 am
For training two-seaters, with safety as major issue, an old-style canopy would have been a good idea, maybe: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_eu.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_eu.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 30, 2021, 09:31:22 pm
The little F-16A was good enough to face MiG-21 but against MiG-25 a much bigger F-16 was needed, Mach3+: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ew.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ew.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on August 31, 2021, 08:42:43 am
That three engine F-16 looks like a challenge to build in 3 D. I do have the kits laying around………
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 31, 2021, 08:46:43 am
If you ever do it, you will deserve all the merit! I was just joking easily but actually making it would be a marvellous success. ;)
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kerick on August 31, 2021, 08:54:29 am
I think two fins mounted on the outside engines and tilted inward would be cool.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on August 31, 2021, 08:57:46 am
This would be your very personal touch, as a whif invented from a whif! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 09, 2021, 09:47:38 am
I thought this was just a peaceful symbol of chivalry but maybe this is a weapon of USAF ninjas:  :unsure:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ex.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ex.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 10, 2021, 11:47:41 am
And I have been inspired by a pusher (of 1946?) on DeviantArt: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ez.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_ez.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 13, 2021, 10:40:00 am
Very little Falcons (with like 1/72 fins on 1/48 basis)t: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fa.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fa.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 19, 2021, 08:39:44 pm
The nice Saro P187 model of MartinH at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=25453.825
inspired me for a F-16 derivative: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fc.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fc.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 19, 2021, 10:17:11 pm
I have seen the insteresting air-cushion DHC-5/XC-8A Buffalo at https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMU14419?result-token=C7WE1
and sandiego89 built one here at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=28617.msg430616#msg430616
So I imagine a similar F-16: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fe.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fe.jpg
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: kitbasher on September 20, 2021, 12:02:43 am
The nice Saro P187 model of MartinH at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=25453.825
inspired me for a F-16 derivative: <_<
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fc.jpg)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwE_fc.jpg

Oh yes!  I can just see it now - a 1/48 (would 1/32 be too big?) F-16 as the basis of a multi-engined 1/72 monster.
Title: Re: F-16 Dérivatives
Post by: Tophe on September 21, 2021, 10:53:49 am
I was willing to play with scales, yes, but my computer is in a jam.
I have taken the very old computer with Windows 7 so I can post but on this one I just have Corel Draw 6, unable to read my F-16 files that used Corel Draw 2019.
So, I hope the recent computer will come to life again (it did that several months ago, after 13 days unable to boot).
In the meantime, I just show an old drawing of mine, opposite, like very small F-16 (if the pilot is reference) in a scale-o-rama spirit:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bu.jpg)
as link: http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F-16drwD_bu.jpg