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Started by The Rat, September 22, 2022, 12:52:13 PM

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The Rat

...Why didn't I think of this before?  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:

Nose weight can be a pain to hold in, as we all know. I tried putty once; melted a significant amount of fuselage which took more putty to correct. White glue takes time to dry properly, and sometimes comes loose, and usually after the fuselage is closed up. So in doing this F9F Panther, it finally dawned on me: don't glue the weight. The nose cone holds just the right amount, as determined by a taped-together model with fingers at the main gear placement. After squashing some split-shot fishing weights, they were dropped into place and secured with a couple of pieces of sprue, bonded with liquid cement. Other aircraft configurations may make this difficult, but I'll certainly be doing this whenever possible.

F9F weight by Dave Bailey, on Flickr
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Steel Penguin

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kitnut617

Um! (ruffling what's left of my hair) something I've been doing for a while --- sorry Dave.   Another thing I do using those fishing weights, I glue in bit of styrene strip and then slide the weight where it's split at the end over the strip, and then crimp the weight onto the strip.
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Captain Canada

Some fisherman in the future will be scratching his head when he gets a snag and pulls up a Panther model with a leader and bobber attached ;-)
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The Rat

Quote from: Captain Canada on September 22, 2022, 04:31:45 PMSome fisherman in the future will be scratching his head when he gets a snag and pulls up a Panther model with a leader and bobber attached ;-)

 ;D  ;D  ;D
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zenrat

What's wrong with it being a bit loose?  I like my models to rattle - keeps anyone handling them on on their toes.

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PR19_Kit

My IAC KMD-11 has a socking great tyre weight lodged in the vast fuselage and just needs a 'nose down' tip prior to putting it down on the shelf.

I'm not sure there IS enough glue to hold that weight in place anyway!
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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zenrat

My Canberra for the GB has the whole nose filled with heavy glue but still tail sits.  I shall be adding sinkers into the fronts of the nacelles.
Seeing as it comes OOB with a glazed nose i'm not sure what I would have done for a RW build.  Wheels up on a stand I guess.
Fred

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Gondor

Quote from: zenrat on September 23, 2022, 11:03:38 PMMy Canberra for the GB has the whole nose filled with heavy glue but still tail sits.  I shall be adding sinkers into the fronts of the nacelles.
Seeing as it comes OOB with a glazed nose i'm not sure what I would have done for a RW build.  Wheels up on a stand I guess.


Plenty of space above and around the nose wheel in a Canberra

Gondor
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zenrat

Quote from: Gondor on September 23, 2022, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: zenrat on September 23, 2022, 11:03:38 PMMy Canberra for the GB has the whole nose filled with heavy glue but still tail sits.  I shall be adding sinkers into the fronts of the nacelles.
Seeing as it comes OOB with a glazed nose i'm not sure what I would have done for a RW build.  Wheels up on a stand I guess.


Plenty of space above and around the nose wheel in a Canberra

Gondor

Not in the A Model 1/144 example which has a very thick walled nose.  There could possibly be space behind the cockpit but it's not accessible since I glued a seat in.  The (1/72) pilot is white metal which will help.
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perttime

If it works....
People who build flying gliders often seem to put in lead shot (or similar) and fix it in place with epoxy. Epoxy might warm up while reacting, so large amounts in one go might not be ideal with styrene.

zenrat

If used in a single large enough quantity then epoxy will heat up enough to soften and deform a plastic model.
Don't ask me how I know this.
 ;D
Fred

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Gondor

Quote from: zenrat on September 24, 2022, 12:21:44 AM
Quote from: Gondor on September 23, 2022, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: zenrat on September 23, 2022, 11:03:38 PMMy Canberra for the GB has the whole nose filled with heavy glue but still tail sits.  I shall be adding sinkers into the fronts of the nacelles.
Seeing as it comes OOB with a glazed nose i'm not sure what I would have done for a RW build.  Wheels up on a stand I guess.


Plenty of space above and around the nose wheel in a Canberra

Gondor

Not in the A Model 1/144 example which has a very thick walled nose.  There could possibly be space behind the cockpit but it's not accessible since I glued a seat in.  The (1/72) pilot is white metal which will help.

Point, however the nose wheel bay is behind the cockpit, access through the bomb bay perhaps?

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

zenrat

That it possible. However it is all painted and cleared now and I don't want to drill any holes.
The nacelles are currently hollow because I made them from drop tanks and have yet to fill them with black painted foam rubber.  There is plenty of room to add heaviness into them.
Thinking about it I could drill into the nose gear well, pour in heavy glue and then fill the hole and hide the repair with the nose leg.

Excellent.  Good work Gondor, got my brain working.  Thank you again.  This is where this place excels. :thumbsup:
Fred

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Gondor

Quote from: zenrat on September 24, 2022, 04:20:10 AMExcellent.  Good work Gondor, got my brain working.  Thank you again.  This is where this place excels. :thumbsup:


Your welcome, again  :thumbsup:

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Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....