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GROUP BUILDS => The Civilinise/Militarise it GB => Topic started by: TallEng on August 17, 2015, 08:01:11 am

Title: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: TallEng on August 17, 2015, 08:01:11 am
I've been wanting to get in on this group build for ages :rolleyes:
But life (getting a new job) and a complete lack of ideas kept getting in The way  :banghead:
But then things started to fall into place.....
For my Birthday eldest daughter sent me from America a copy of  Combat Aircraft magazine,
Which contains amongst other things an article on Worldwide Tanker programs.
Then whilst shopping with Mrs TallEng I was allowed a stash increase purchase :thumbsup:
And my eye alighted on Revells newish A350-900
Now with a bit of luck and an extension (which I believe is waiting in the wings)
I might be in with a chance....
So, we have the beginning  ;D
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_33.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_33.jpg.html)
And this is where we are after a quick afternoons work
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_35.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_35.jpg.html)
Fuselage all together, (note that your required to glue the nose U/C in whilst joining the fuselage
Together) this will get snapped off/broken several times :banghead: especially as I plan on taking
A saw to the fuselage when the glue is set.
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_36.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_36.jpg.html)
You even get a tiny cockpit with seats instrument panels etc, I of course did not add seat belts :rolleyes:
I don't have my magnifying thingy with me.
Anyway I'm on nights for the next two weeks and so will endevor to do a little bit each day :o
Wish me luck :cheers:
Back story and user will depend on a) my imagination :rolleyes: and b) what little of the decal bank I've
brought with me
I should explain that the new job is a 5 and a1/2 hour car journey away and consists of a two week stretch doing mostly nights, then two weeks off. The company kindly Provides a small furnished flat, so I thought why not do some modeling? I've got a little stash with me ;)
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_37.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_37.jpg.html)

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Nils on August 17, 2015, 09:03:48 am
a fantasticidea, ive been playing with the same idea for some time, after i built a KC-48 (Boeing 787 based tanker) i was thinking the A350 would become the next tanker platform post-2030  ;D
youre giving me a good idea for a next build, maybe a european Air Force One  :rolleyes:

i also had the same problem with the landing gear when i built my Sabena A350, they really made that part very complex.
so i was pretty much forced to build it wheels-up.
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 17, 2015, 03:08:47 pm

Fuselage all together, (note that your required to glue the nose U/C in whilst joining the fuselage
Together) this will get snapped off/broken several times :banghead: especially as I plan on taking
A saw to the fuselage when the glue is set.


Is that idiot who does that STILL on the Revell design team?  :banghead:

They did this with the 767 first and I devised a way to add the nosehweel after assembly, took some pics of it and sent it to Revell, suggesting that they take the idea on board for later kits. Did I even get a reply? No, not a word!!!

How long are they going to carry on with this stupidity?

I think I trimmed off the lower sides of the nose gear 'box' and added some very small styrene strips so it slid into the correct position afterward, but I'd need to dig the models out to confirm that.
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Mossie on August 18, 2015, 03:46:34 am
Nice subject, will look good when done.
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: TallEng on August 20, 2015, 10:00:47 am
Fuselage surgery :o
Before
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_38.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_38.jpg.html)

And after ;D
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_39.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_39.jpg.html)

For those that would like to know; the reduction in length brings it down to -800 size, which is
Roughly equivalent to the A330-200 (give or take a meter or two) the -200 being the base A/C
For the MRTT.

That's it so far....

Regards
Keith

Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Captain Canada on August 20, 2015, 11:32:17 am
Love the idea and great work so far !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: TallEng on August 30, 2015, 01:14:58 pm
I'll just say I told you so :rolleyes:
Approximately 3/4 of B..... All work done on the Airbus Tanker
and what little done resulted in....
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_44.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_44.jpg.html)
yes a Broken nose leg :thumbsup: still; not entirely surprised at that. I knew
it would happen. Hopefully more will be done this week, as I have to go to schoolish
to learn a new(old) Airplane So in between Homework/study there should be a couple of
modelling hours a day somewhere, maybe :thumbsup:
(NB Famous last words etc)

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Gondor on August 30, 2015, 01:48:17 pm
That looks as if it should be easy to drill and pin  :thumbsup:

Gondor
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 30, 2015, 02:02:38 pm
That looks as if it should be easy to drill and pin  :thumbsup:

Gondor

It's OK the first time, but when it snaps off again it's a lot more difficult.

Best left for the very last thing before it's put on its base!
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: KiwiZac on August 30, 2015, 04:35:56 pm
Shortening the fuse really improves the look in my eyes. Great work!
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Captain Canada on August 31, 2015, 09:51:29 am
Nice one ! It does look good shortened !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: TallEng on September 06, 2015, 01:43:05 pm
Earlier this afternoon, this was spotted flying at low Level over "somewhere in Germany"
It is believed to be the prototype Airbus A350 MRTT :o
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_46.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_46.jpg.html)

(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_47.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_47.jpg.html)

(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_48.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_48.jpg.html)

This last one shows the refueling pod under the wing. Might be a bit big?

And another question about something that's bothering me.
All of the various tankers/MRTT's seem now to be painted in some kind of camouflage grey scheme. Why?
It's not like they're going to be in harms way is it? Surely they're too valuable and Not
Easily defendable enough that your going to risk putting them where somebody will be able to hit them.
And camouflage for on the ground is also a trifle unnecessary? If anything wouldn't you want them
To be easily recognized (for the aircraft requiring refueling) or if your flying in supplies for disaster
Relief or even flying in reinforcements for a spot of Sabre rattling or lending a hand to a needy former
Colony wouldn't you want people to know that it was you? After all your spending all that money and nowadays
People want to see a return for their investment?...... Questions, questions, where will it all end :rolleyes:

Comments etc.....

Regards
Keith

Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Gondor on September 06, 2015, 02:35:01 pm
The under-wing pods for the Airfix 1/144 KC10 tanker are just under 3cm long if that is any help to you.

Gondor
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 06, 2015, 04:31:50 pm
The airforces that they serve in, or for in the RAF's case, have LOTS of grey paint to hand so why not use it on the tanker thingies too? Saves complicated stores entries etc.  ;D
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: kitnut617 on September 06, 2015, 07:48:55 pm
well in my opinion, the pods would look like the ones on a Voyager

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/kitnut617/YYC/RAF%20Voyager%20ZZ338%201_zpsojryc3gk.jpg) (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/kitnut617/media/YYC/RAF%20Voyager%20ZZ338%201_zpsojryc3gk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Captain Canada on September 07, 2015, 08:26:13 am
I didn't realize what a shapely beast the A350 was ! Lovely. Scratching up some pods should be easy enough with an old bomb or drop tank etc.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: kitnut617 on September 07, 2015, 08:34:50 am
The pods on a Victor tanker are close to what the Voyager has, just needs the rear end re-shaped
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Nils on September 07, 2015, 11:08:58 am
i got plans to build some tankers, but i intend to convert a pair of 1/144 "Hindenburg" droptanks, from a Revell Tornado GR.1, into tanker pods, as these to me are the most suitable  :mellow:
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Captain Canada on September 07, 2015, 11:15:10 am
Thanks for the tip Nils, I have a few of those floating about !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: TallEng on September 08, 2015, 12:56:46 pm
Grrr... :thumbsup: You lot and your extremely plausible ideas as to what would make suitable underwing
Refueling pods ;D some of which I might have in the stash/spares box.....
Unfortunately me and said objects of desire are more miles/kilometers apart than is desirable :banghead:
So.... (I like me dots don't I?)  ;D
We've done this to our over long refueling pods
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_50.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_50.jpg.html)
They now look a bit fat, so in a quick bit of bodge  thinking the refueling pods are now duel
Purpose. The top half now houses an ECM suite and the bottom the hose, drogue and reel.
(Well you have to protect these expensive assets)
We've (as in the royal we)  :rolleyes: added some antenna and a splash of BOG applied with a hairy stick,
(http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/Tourjet/temporary_49.jpg) (http://s980.photobucket.com/user/Tourjet/media/temporary_49.jpg.html)
It's looking a bit tight for the dead line if I'm honest :unsure: learning new (old) aeroplanes takes
It's toll. :blink:

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: Captain Canada on September 08, 2015, 01:00:11 pm
Still, it's progress and she's getting there ! I like the idea of a dual purpose pod. Why not ? The ECM suite has to go somewhere !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Airbus A350 MRTT
Post by: KiwiZac on September 08, 2015, 02:15:41 pm
That's a very cool idea! Dual-purpose pods would make this a real "force multiplier".