Started by Weaver, January 18, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
Quote from: AS.12 on January 19, 2019, 02:51:28 AM* standard loadout: six Sparrow, two Genie and two tanks
Quote from: kitnut617 on January 19, 2019, 10:19:15 AMI think you can rule out any French buy/build Harold, for the same reason most French deals go down the tubes. They'd want to build it all in France.
Quote from: rickshaw on January 19, 2019, 02:35:06 PMIt wasn't until after the 1960s that, that changed because the numbers weren't large enough to allow licensed production (and the price wasn't right).
Quote from: Weaver on January 19, 2019, 10:58:04 AMTotally different tack: trainers.Canada built the CT-114 Tutor (closely comparable to the Jet Provost) for the basic trainer role, so what if they built on that success and developed an advanced tandem-seat trainer of their own design, to replace the CT-133 (Shooting Star)? What might such an aircraft look like?They'd probably want a wide undercarriage track for use on snow-covered runways.They'd probably also be concerned about snow/spray ingestion into the intakes.They might want two engines, although the fact that the CT-114 had only one means that isn't clear.They'd probably want it to have export potential, which means an armed version.Two layouts occur to me:1. A similar layout to the L-39 Albatros, with a low wing (wide u/c track), shoulder-mounted intakes behind the wing leading edge (snow/spray ingestion), and either a single Orpheus engine, two Vipers or two J-85s, the latter giving compatibility with the CT-114 fleet. This is probably more appropriate to a later-timescale, after the benefits of stepped cockpits had been established.2. Since Canadair built the Sabre under licence, they might go down the same route that both Fuji (with the T-1) and Fiat (with the G-91) did, i.e. take the Sabre's basic aerodynamics and shrink them to fit an Orpheus-powered two-seater. You might imagine this as an independent project or coming from participation in the G-91 project in the name of NATO cooperation. As an independent project, it could have twin J-85s, thus making it very like the G-91Y. This is probably more appropriate to an earlier timescale, since it's hard to give it stepped cockpits.Modelling options:For scheme 1:Single-engine: take an L-39 kit and re-purpose it. Optionally, you could replace the straight wings with swept ones from any number of sources.Twin-engine 1: take an L-39 kit as above, but give it the twin J-85 nozzle fairing from the Matchbox G-91Y, enlarged intakes, and PSR them in.Twin-engine 2: take an Aermaccchi Mb.339 kit, fair over the jet nozzle, replace the wings with swept, intakeless ones, and add two engines in biz-jet style pods on top of the rear fuelage.For scheme 2:Single-engine 1: Take a Fuji T.1 kit and re-purpose it. I'm not 100% sure that the aircraft is big enough for Western pilots though, so maybe check it against other types first?Single-engined 2: Take a G-91R and convert it into a G-91T, either by use of a conversion set (they have been made in the past) or by using a T-33 canopy, which would be a nice throwback to the Canadair Silver Star. Replace the camera nose with a plain one (Doesn't the Airfix G-91 come with a plain nose?)Twin-engined: Take a Matchbox G-91Y and give it an tandem canopy and plain nose as above.
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 19, 2019, 03:17:30 PMSpeyed Phantoms make little sense as RCAF air defense Phantoms would be operating with US forces most of the time, keeping J79s would simplify logistics when operating from US bases.
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