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2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.

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NARSES2

Quote from: Rheged on April 03, 2019, 01:02:49 PM
Quote from: Modelling_Mushi on April 03, 2019, 04:38:36 AM
4. The Edsel Memorial GB - glorious, ridiculous, ugly failures

I do like the sound of this one. It might even combine with the Dick Dastardly/Wylie Coyote sort of vibe.

Must admit I like it to, and was thinking of possibly linking it as per your suggestion to give it a better chance. We shall see.
Decals my @r$e!

NARSES2

Quote from: kitbasher on April 03, 2019, 02:47:41 PM

Also how about 'swords into ploughshares' (done in the past I think) ot 'ploughshares into swords'?  And the latter wouldn't just be a case of impressed civil stuff but civil stuff repurposed into a military role.

Your getting old mate. You already nominated this on page 1  ;) Mind you in fairness you have since added the ploughshares into swords'   ;D

I may well combine them in the Poll
Decals my @r$e!

kitbasher

Quote from: NARSES2 on April 04, 2019, 05:54:21 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on April 03, 2019, 02:47:41 PM

Also how about 'swords into ploughshares' (done in the past I think) ot 'ploughshares into swords'?  And the latter wouldn't just be a case of impressed civil stuff but civil stuff repurposed into a military role.

Your getting old mate. You already nominated this on page 1  ;) Mind you in fairness you have since added the ploughshares into swords'   ;D

I may well combine them in the Poll

Ha ha ha!
I was
a) emphasising the suggestion.
b) making sure you're paying attention.

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.  Will be keeping an eye on you in future, mateyboy!  ;)
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NARSES2

Quote from: kitbasher on April 04, 2019, 09:59:54 AM

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.  Will be keeping an eye on you in future, mateyboy!  ;)

Yup. Those who live in glass houses etc :angel:
Decals my @r$e!

Weaver

The Earl(ier) Jets GB

We often see What-If scenarios where jet engines are never invented, thus giving an excuse for 'ultimate' prop-jobs to get into service. However, what if it was the other way around, and jets became practical up to ten years earlier? A lot of the delay in getting them into service was down to lack of support and funding, so you might imagine a scenario where governments get solidly behind them in the early 1930s, with the result that jet aircraft enter squadron service just before WWII starts.

There are some easy things you could do for this of course, such as Meteor/Vampire Mk.1s in green/brown cammo with black/white undersides, or operational He 280s. However there are also some more conceptual things to think about. The real-life early jets benefitted from experience gained on the brutal learning curve of the early years of WWII. Without that, if they were based on the mixture of right and wrong ideas knocking around in the late 1930s, what might they have looked like? Jet turret fighters? Jet three-seater 'fighter control' aircraft? Also, how many more Yak-15-style converted piston types with a jet in/under the nose would have appeared as first steps? Would the first Spitfire have been literally spitting fire?
"We thank you, but this diversion is not true. Things never happened thus."

"Oh, but it IS true. Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are
the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."

- Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

zenrat

Quote from: Weaver on April 05, 2019, 10:48:34 PM
The Earl(ier) Jets GB

We often see What-If scenarios where jet engines are never invented, thus giving an excuse for 'ultimate' prop-jobs to get into service. However, what if it was the other way around, and jets became practical up to ten years earlier? A lot of the delay in getting them into service was down to lack of support and funding, so you might imagine a scenario where governments get solidly behind them in the early 1930s, with the result that jet aircraft enter squadron service just before WWII starts.

There are some easy things you could do for this of course, such as Meteor/Vampire Mk.1s in green/brown cammo with black/white undersides, or operational He 280s. However there are also some more conceptual things to think about. The real-life early jets benefitted from experience gained on the brutal learning curve of the early years of WWII. Without that, if they were based on the mixture of right and wrong ideas knocking around in the late 1930s, what might they have looked like? Jet turret fighters? Jet three-seater 'fighter control' aircraft? Also, how many more Yak-15-style converted piston types with a jet in/under the nose would have appeared as first steps? Would the first Spitfire have been literally spitting fire?

Excellent.  If this gets selected then I have an excuse to buy the Clear Prop Gloster E28/39.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

loupgarou

Quote from: Weaver on April 05, 2019, 10:48:34 PM
The Earl(ier) Jets GB

We often see What-If scenarios where jet engines are never invented, thus giving an excuse for 'ultimate' prop-jobs to get into service. However, what if it was the other way around, and jets became practical up to ten years earlier? A lot of the delay in getting them into service was down to lack of support and funding, so you might imagine a scenario where governments get solidly behind them in the early 1930s, with the result that jet aircraft enter squadron service just before WWII starts.

There are some easy things you could do for this of course, such as Meteor/Vampire Mk.1s in green/brown cammo with black/white undersides, or operational He 280s. However there are also some more conceptual things to think about. The real-life early jets benefitted from experience gained on the brutal learning curve of the early years of WWII. Without that, if they were based on the mixture of right and wrong ideas knocking around in the late 1930s, what might they have looked like? Jet turret fighters? Jet three-seater 'fighter control' aircraft? Also, how many more Yak-15-style converted piston types with a jet in/under the nose would have appeared as first steps? Would the first Spitfire have been literally spitting fire?

With gull wings, fixed undercarriage and spats, obviously!  :wub:
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

Weaver

The Three's Company GB.

We're always making up fictional countries and writing histories for them, but the history of companies can be just as interesting. The challenge therefore, is to make up a fictional manufacturing company, or radically alter the story of a real one, and then build three models that illustrate that history. It doesn't have to be aircraft and it doesn't have to be military: if you can make up an interesting bus company and find/scratch the models then go for it.
"We thank you, but this diversion is not true. Things never happened thus."

"Oh, but it IS true. Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are
the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."

- Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

NARSES2

Right just over a week to go and then I'll collate the suggestions and organise the Poll
Decals my @r$e!

Weaver

#39
The Weapons GB.

Another thing we're always doing is concentrating on the weapon platforms, rather than the weapons themselves, so how about a GB where the object is to build a what-if weapon? Eligible items might include missiles, bombs, rockets or guns (everything from small arms up to artillery pieces). The principle is that it should be a single-use device intended to cause damage or destruction to a target, and the element which does the destruction should be un-crewed (a gun is crewed but it's shells arn't), the exception being devices wherein the crew is supposed to die in the process, i.e. a suicide weapon like an Ohka.

The question arises: to what degree should launch vehicles be included in the build, i.e. if you build an anti-aircraft missile, can you build the launch vehicle it travels on? I would say yes, if the launch vehicle is single-purpose. That is to say, it has no purpose other than carrying and launching the weapons. Thus a tank chassis used as a SAM launcher would count, but a fighter plane carrying an ASM wouldn't, since the fighter plane can do other things too.

"We thank you, but this diversion is not true. Things never happened thus."

"Oh, but it IS true. Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are
the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."

- Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

sandiego89

I think there are some interesting anniversaries that could serve as themes:

2019: D-Day, 75th Anniversary of D-Day (modification of kitbashers nomination if ok kitbasher).  Build something that could have played a part in D-Day, sea, air, land, either side.

2019: Soccer War 50th Anniversary.  Build something in Central American service in the 1969 timeframe.

2020. Discovery of Antarctica 200th Anniversary.  Build something that could have operated in, near or over Antarctica.  Sea, air, land, ice.  Any time frame from 1820 to 2020.  Secret Nazi bases allowed, aliens not.     


Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

kitbasher

Quote from: sandiego89 on April 21, 2019, 07:30:52 AM
2019: D-Day, 75th Anniversary of D-Day (modification of kitbashers nomination if ok kitbasher).  Build something that could have played a part in D-Day, sea, air, land, either side.

Not a problem, it's exactly what I had in mind.
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Dizzyfugu

Oh, I can see a lot of BW stripes coming along...

Rheged

Quote from: Weaver on April 06, 2019, 03:18:25 AM
The Three's Company GB.

We're always making up fictional countries and writing histories for them, but the history of companies can be just as interesting. The challenge therefore, is to make up a fictional manufacturing company, or radically alter the story of a real one, and then build three models that illustrate that history. It doesn't have to be aircraft and it doesn't have to be military: if you can make up an interesting bus company and find/scratch the models then go for it.

I could quite fancy this one.  Start with the Supermarine  Spitfire, go on to the Supermarine Scimitar, then the 1982 Supermarine Switchblade ( a swing wing carrier based strike aircraft)  the 1995 Supermarine Skean Dhu ( a small VTOL  strike fighter capable of being positioned on container vessels) and finally the Supermarine Stiletto of 2037, an exo-atmospheric interceptor of  the Royal Naval Air Service  Aerospace Command.   ...................and as for the sidearm, sickle, skewer, scythe , scalpel , sabre, spike, spear, slingshot, shotgun  and sword........ladies, gentlemen, fellow whiffers and other indeterminate sentient beings.............I await your ideas.  We haven't even touched on the civilian splendid, superb, sybarite or swan yet!   I might even try to write up a backstory for the company  for someone else more manually dextrous than me to transmute into styrene or resin.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

PR19_Kit

Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Kit