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Martin B28½ Canberra - Finished pics Pg 7.

Started by zenrat, July 24, 2022, 04:36:30 AM

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zenrat

As this GB was my idea I felt compelled to build one of each type.
The only Canberras I could get my sticky paws on were 1/144 examples by A Model so suppressing my distrust of their products (born from experience) I purchased this.

Canberra Mk8 2 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr

Here is the requisite open box shot.

Canberra Mk8 1 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr

I don't usually build 1/144 and my initial thoughts are to scaleorama it into 1/72.  I think there is just enough space for a pilot figure in that scale.
The backstory fermenting in my bonce is something relating to a half scale replica...

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

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Tophe

Quote from: zenrat on July 24, 2022, 04:36:30 AM
1/144 and my initial thoughts are to scaleorama it into 1/72.  I think there is just enough space for a pilot figure in that scale.
you could have the full nose for the pilot, prone, if you paint the windows black without transparency. These black canopies I use always now was an idea of TsrJoe a long time ago, thanks to him. ;)
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

Pellson

Quote from: zenrat on July 24, 2022, 04:36:30 AM
..my initial thoughts are to scaleorama it into 1/72.  I think there is just enough space for a pilot figure in that scale.

Really interesting idea. Are you thinking of using the standard wing/engine gondolas, or are you looking for bigger gondolas carrying bigger engines, maybe Avons, even?
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

zenrat

Good idea Tophe but I want to have a pilot sitting in a chair in the conventional manner.

Pellson - as you may have observed retaining the  kit nacelles would mean very slim engines when scaleoramaed into 1/72 so I am looking at replacing them with fatter alternatives.  I have a small stash of 1/48 drop tanks which may provide suitable raw materials.
Fred

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Old Wombat

Lose the original engines completely, lose the nose glazing, add an exhaust pipe just under the tail = single-engine Meteor alternative! ;D
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

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zenrat

It's an option, but one of my possible back story ideas requires it to still look like a full size Canberra.

Another option is a pair of small turboprops.


Fred

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loupgarou

Quote from: zenrat on July 25, 2022, 04:58:23 AM
It's an option, but one of my possible back story ideas requires it to still look like a full size Canberra.

Another option is a pair of small turboprops.


It's what I was thinking. Turboprops (even not small) and LONG STALKY undercarriage legs.
That would really change the Canberra look, normally so low-level.
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

Pellson

Quote from: zenrat on July 25, 2022, 04:29:56 AM
Pellson - as you may have observed retaining the  kit nacelles would mean very slim engines when scaleoramaed into 1/72 so I am looking at replacing them with fatter alternatives.  I have a small stash of 1/48 drop tanks which may provide suitable raw materials.

Following with interest.  :thumbsup:
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

zenrat

Whilst digging around in the box for the Lighting (also of this GB) I realised that it has a pair of (overwing - silly idea) drop tanks which are larger in diameter than the 1/144 Avon nacelles and so may do the job.
I don't want to use anything too fat or it'll end up looking more like a Meteor.
Fred

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zenrat

#9
Having separated the nacelles from the inner wings I started modifying a Lingting drop tank to use as a nacelle.  Imagine my surprise when I cut the end off and discovered it wasn't round in cross section.
Putting that aside I reached for the box containing my small stash of 1/48 tanks and missiles.  Imagine my surprise when I opened the lid and found no more 1/48 tanks.
Sick of surprises I grabbed the box containing bagged 1/72 weapons and found a pair of tanks from a Lockheed Viking[-p'[[';';///≥'/;[p]o0;l./
<at this point Charlie the Wonder Dog licked the keyboard of my laptop.  Is she trying to tell us something?  What does she mean by "[-p'[[';';///≥'/;[p]o0;l./"?>
Fred

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NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on July 29, 2022, 03:27:17 AM

<at this point Charlie the Wonder Dog licked the keyboard of my laptop.  Is she trying to tell us something?  What does she mean by "[-p'[[';';///≥'/;[p]o0;l./"?>

That's common mongrel for "I'm hungry"  ;)
Decals my @r$e!

kerick

Remove the engines from the wings and place them on pylons on the fuselage A-10/biz jet style. Move the horizontal stabilizers as needed. I'm sure Tophe could sketch that up.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Tophe

Quote from: kerick on July 29, 2022, 08:51:06 AM
Remove the engines from the wings and place them on pylons on the fuselage A-10/biz jet style. Move the horizontal stabilizers as needed. I'm sure Tophe could sketch that up.
Maybe I could do that, if zenrat requires it.
For that I needed a view of EE Lightning as "écorché" in French, I thought Google would find nothing, but it did! And the English word for it seems to be "cutaway drawing", all right. I got one at https://www.flightglobalimages.com/cutaways/military-aviation-1946-present-cutaways/english-electric-lightning-f-53-cutaway-drawing-1569411.html
Please zenrat, confirm if you need it. The "price" for it would be your acceptance that, after, I include such a version in my collection of Twin-Lightning drawings. ;)
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

kerick

Is there some turbo fans out there to put in place of the regular engines like the WB-57F?
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

PR19_Kit

1/144 scale airliner turbofans are about the right size for upgrading a 1/72 scale Canberra.

I've done that 3-4 times now, and I'm running out of 'different engine' ideas for them. :(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit