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Spey engine nozzles

Started by chrisonord, September 06, 2019, 11:04:05 AM

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chrisonord

I have  a few different  f4 phantom  kits in the stash, some  airfix and one revell  rf-4, I doubt  I  would  build them to be honest  unless I  could  convert them into  RAF  versions  with the spey engine.  Is/ was there  anyone that did aftermarket  nozzles to convert  or is it a bit more complex than that.
Cheers
Chris.
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PR19_Kit

It's MUCH more complicated than that Chris, the fuselages and intakes are wider as well as the exhaust changes.

But even the RAF flew non-Spey engined F-4s, 74 Sqdn flew ex-USN Phantoms with P&W engines.
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Regards
Kit

chrisonord

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 06, 2019, 12:17:59 PM
It's MUCH more complicated than that Chris, the fuselages and intakes are wider as well as the exhaust changes.

But even the RAF flew non-Spey engined F-4s, 74 Sqdn flew ex-USN Phantoms with P&W engines.
I had an inkling  it would be a lot more complicated,  thankyou for the heads up Kit. I have a  set of 5 RF noses for the phantom,  and  was thinking  of using one  on an airfix  phantom I  have and making a  photo  recon bird for the RAF. More than likely an armed version with either  wing mounted  redtop's or   firestreaks
Chris
The dogs philosophy on life.
If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

kitnut617

That would confuse a few people Chris.  BTW, the 1/72 Fujimi RAF Phantom comes with a large recce pod for under the fuselage, plus it has the Speys already ----
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chrisonord

Quote from: kitnut617 on September 06, 2019, 12:42:58 PM
That would confuse a few people Chris.  BTW, the 1/72 Fujimi RAF Phantom comes with a large recce pod for under the fuselage, plus it has the Speys already ----
I have  had a look for a fujimi f4 a few times  before,  and since bought  the airfix  fgr2. I  also have  a matchbox  version  of it , had it a long time, unbuilt and  pondering what  to  do with it. I have  read that it is not a brilliant representation of one, but it does have  quite a few  stores to plunder at least.
Chris.
The dogs philosophy on life.
If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

PR19_Kit

The M'box Phantom has the EMI recce pod too, I used the bottom half of it for the camera bay of the PR19.  ;D

I've got a Fujimi RAF Phantom, but I've never looked in the box, so I never knew it had the EMI pod too!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 06, 2019, 12:17:59 PM
But even the RAF flew non-Spey engined F-4s, 74 Sqdn flew ex-USN Phantoms with P&W engines.

This is the Fujimi F-4S (RAF Phantom F.3) I've still got to put the decals on   :banghead:  It's a tiny bit 'what-iffy' though  ---

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chrisonord

Nice build  Robert,  i want to do mine  as a 1960's   RAF aircraft , possibly  in NMF.
Chris
The dogs philosophy on life.
If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 06, 2019, 12:17:59 PM
It's MUCH more complicated than that Chris, the fuselages and intakes are wider as well as the exhaust changes.

But even the RAF flew non-Spey engined F-4s, 74 Sqdn flew ex-USN Phantoms with P&W engines.

GE engines... ;)
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Weaver

Quote from: kitnut617 on September 06, 2019, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 06, 2019, 12:17:59 PM
But even the RAF flew non-Spey engined F-4s, 74 Sqdn flew ex-USN Phantoms with P&W engines.
This is the Fujimi F-4S (RAF Phantom F.3) I've still got to put the decals on   :banghead:  It's a tiny bit 'what-iffy' though  ---

UK pattern RWR fairing.  ;D :thumbsup:

Nice one!  :thumbsup:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Morpheus in Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones '

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on September 06, 2019, 08:33:22 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 06, 2019, 12:17:59 PM
It's MUCH more complicated than that Chris, the fuselages and intakes are wider as well as the exhaust changes.

But even the RAF flew non-Spey engined F-4s, 74 Sqdn flew ex-USN Phantoms with P&W engines.

GE engines... ;)


Yeah, well, it's one of those American engines anyway, not a PROPER Rolls Royce motor.............  ;D ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

Quote from: Weaver on September 06, 2019, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: kitnut617 on September 06, 2019, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 06, 2019, 12:17:59 PM
But even the RAF flew non-Spey engined F-4s, 74 Sqdn flew ex-USN Phantoms with P&W engines.
This is the Fujimi F-4S (RAF Phantom F.3) I've still got to put the decals on   :banghead:  It's a tiny bit 'what-iffy' though  ---

UK pattern RWR fairing.  ;D :thumbsup:

Nice one!  :thumbsup:

;D

Thanks Harold
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