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Started by Gondor, April 06, 2019, 03:33:16 PM

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Gondor

So this is yet another project idea that I am starting and which I will probably never complete.

The idea is that almost every kind of F-4 version has been done except a side by side version!

So lats start with a few pictures, first the base kit



Next the possible doner kits for the nose



Another posible side by side option



And the three noses



Left to right is F-102, F-14 and A-6 as possible replacement nose options.

My thought was that someone around the late 1960's decided the F-4 could be used to carry a larger radar and longer ranged missile in a simmilar way to what the F-14 developed to do.

At the moment my idea is to replace the nose area forward of the wings with a side by side cockpit with the air intakes rotted downwards and under the cockpit. It's only rough at the moment but the idea is there.

Gondor
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Tophe

I feel this is an interesting project, no matter if you actually complete it or not (in plastic). As a dream, this is a good what-if idea 'and a drawing could be done - I have no basis to that for a F-4 but I could do it for a Mirage 5 with Corel Draw 2018))..
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

loupgarou

You could also use a EA-6B Prowler for a quadriplace.
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Weaver

Well if you're going for rotated, TF-102-style intakes and a radar, then I'd pick the Lightning front end and stick a big radome on it in place of the nose intake. The T-55 nose section is distinctly V-shaped in cross-section and several advanced Lightning proposals had side intakes in exactly the place you suggest.
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Tophe

Quote from: Tophe on April 06, 2019, 07:36:51 PM
I have no basis to that for a F-4 but I could do it for a Mirage 5 with Corel Draw 2018))..
Yes, here is the Mirage one, thanks for this idea.
In French "Side by Side" is "Côte à Côte", and while the SS code is forbidden since the 1940s, Cot-Cot sounds like a joke, because this is the way a chicken speaks...
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

Gondor

I have both the T.55 and the TF-102 and as yet have not made up my mind which I will use as a basis for the "conversion" and as yet I have not decided what I will use for the canopy either.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Devilfish

I like the idea.  If it's going to be carrying a larger radar ala Tomcat, why not use the F-14 nose?  Also, the intakes....why not make them NACA type rather than moving them under the fuselage?

Gondor

Quote from: Devilfish on April 10, 2019, 07:44:29 AM
I like the idea.  If it's going to be carrying a larger radar ala Tomcat, why not use the F-14 nose?  Also, the intakes....why not make them NACA type rather than moving them under the fuselage?
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The Tomcat nose is not that much larger than .F-102 nose, see my first posting for an out of focus picture of both. What I am thinking of is something similar to a cross between the TF-102 and A-6 with possibly a bit of twin seat Lightning thrown in for good measure with the air intakes a bit like those on the A-6 but larger to take into account the intake size of the F-4 but not necessarily in the same rectangular shape.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Captain Canada

Cool. Hard to pick your nose ?

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Gondor

My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....