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Offline Gondor

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Ah bwoke ba dose
« on: April 06, 2019, 03:33:16 pm »
So this is yet another project idea that I am starting and which I will probably never complete.

The idea is that almost every kind of F-4 version has been done except a side by side version!

So lats start with a few pictures, first the base kit



Next the possible doner kits for the nose



Another posible side by side option



And the three noses



Left to right is F-102, F-14 and A-6 as possible replacement nose options.

My thought was that someone around the late 1960's decided the F-4 could be used to carry a larger radar and longer ranged missile in a simmilar way to what the F-14 developed to do.

At the moment my idea is to replace the nose area forward of the wings with a side by side cockpit with the air intakes rotted downwards and under the cockpit. It's only rough at the moment but the idea is there.

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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2019, 07:36:51 pm »
I feel this is an interesting project, no matter if you actually complete it or not (in plastic). As a dream, this is a good what-if idea 'and a drawing could be done - I have no basis to that for a F-4 but I could do it for a Mirage 5 with Corel Draw 2018))..
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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2019, 11:58:12 pm »
You could also use a EA-6B Prowler for a quadriplace.
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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2019, 12:00:22 am »
Well if you're going for rotated, TF-102-style intakes and a radar, then I'd pick the Lightning front end and stick a big radome on it in place of the nose intake. The T-55 nose section is distinctly V-shaped in cross-section and several advanced Lightning proposals had side intakes in exactly the place you suggest.
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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2019, 12:38:03 am »
I have no basis to that for a F-4 but I could do it for a Mirage 5 with Corel Draw 2018))..
Yes, here is the Mirage one, thanks for this idea.
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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2019, 04:10:01 am »
I have both the T.55 and the TF-102 and as yet have not made up my mind which I will use as a basis for the "conversion" and as yet I have not decided what I will use for the canopy either.

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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 07:44:29 am »
I like the idea.  If it's going to be carrying a larger radar ala Tomcat, why not use the F-14 nose?  Also, the intakes....why not make them NACA type rather than moving them under the fuselage?

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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2019, 01:50:07 pm »
I like the idea.  If it's going to be carrying a larger radar ala Tomcat, why not use the F-14 nose?  Also, the intakes....why not make them NACA type rather than moving them under the fuselage?
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The Tomcat nose is not that much larger than .F-102 nose, see my first posting for an out of focus picture of both. What I am thinking of is something similar to a cross between the TF-102 and A-6 with possibly a bit of twin seat Lightning thrown in for good measure with the air intakes a bit like those on the A-6 but larger to take into account the intake size of the F-4 but not necessarily in the same rectangular shape.

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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 09:47:31 am »
Cool. Hard to pick your nose ?

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Re: Ah bwoke ba dose
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2019, 06:11:32 am »
Cool. Hard to pick your nose ?

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