Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen

[ysi_maniac]

Merging Bismarck and Wisconsin. I particularly love germanized turrets 

[ysi_maniac]

This is, more or less, my idea about a post WWII Battleship, equipped with guns and missiles. Perhaps with nuclear capability.



Mainly done with Scharnhorst and Moskva bits.

[ysi_maniac]

A RW project: Scharnhorst/Gneisenau with 15 inch guns. Original and upgunned.

[NARSES2]

Some nice looking ships there 

[dumaniac]

Interesting combinations = well done

[ysi_maniac]

Alternative main artillery for Bismarck.

Insert: What I considered turrets could look with all big guns german designers considered during WWII, they also considered 2 gun turrets only.

In this line, I envisaged posibilities to install them on a Bismarck hull. 15 inch is included for comparison purposes.

[NARSES2]

Extremely interesting comparisons which show the differences that would come about by seemingly small changes to calibre. 

The 2 turret version looks quite strange, but that is because we are so used to seeing that hull design with 4. I wonder if full advantage could have been taken of the 20" guns capabilities back then ? especially in the North Atlantic.

[ysi_maniac]

The Super Yamato project, with 20inch guns, existed. There is a model too.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1002623-fujimi-61012-ijn-super-yamato-class-design-a-150-battleship-premium

[NARSES2]

Thank you sir 

[ysi_maniac]

This pic, from World of Warships, seems to represent two stages in Scharnhorst evolution: top, original, and bottom, after eventual upgunning.

But bow looks a little different and bottom ship looks bigger than top ship. Is it just an effect of perspective?

Adjusting sizes looks that superstructure is moved aft in upgunned version

[nönöbär]

Regarding the Bismarck, a modification of it as a hybrid carrier (the "Odin"):



Build this about 30 years ago, more details can be found here:

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,35355.msg563460.html

[ysi_maniac]

3x3 config for Bismarck

[NARSES2]

She looks good in that configuration 

[ysi_maniac]

What if a Scharnhorst equipped with a pair of "germanized" version of british 4x14in turret (from KGV)?

A kind of german Strasbourg.

[NARSES2]

I can see the Strasbourg analogy