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Boulton Paul Defiant NF Mk-VII

Started by TomZ, September 16, 2016, 09:53:06 AM

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TomZ

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dogsbody

Nice, but with that much extra power, it should have a twin 20mm turret, for that extra punch. At the least, a twin .50 calibre, maybe a Martin 250CE.


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NARSES2

Brilliant  :thumbsup:

I was only musing on the subject of a Griffon engined Defiant in my blog the other day. If I get around to building it she will be a R.N. dive bomber with either a Martin style low profile turret or just maybe a remote one as per the Spearfish
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Ooh, yeah, that's what should have happened!  :thumbsup:
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zenrat

A Griffiant.  Very nice.
If it was a quad 50 turret rather than 303s would it look any different in 1/72?
I'd always assumed that the guns were physically the same size just with different sized holes up the middle.
Fred

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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on September 18, 2016, 04:50:23 AM

If it was a quad 50 turret rather than 303s would it look any different in 1/72?


Aeroclub white metal 0.5's are marginally "chunkier" than 0.303's from a quick look in the spares cabinet. You can tell the difference although if anyone would notice once they are in a finished turret ?
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dogsbody

Quote from: zenrat on September 18, 2016, 04:50:23 AM
A Griffiant.  Very nice.
If it was a quad 50 turret rather than 303s would it look any different in 1/72?
I'd always assumed that the guns were physically the same size just with different sized holes up the middle.


This:




is from here:  http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/CannonMGs.htm


Chris
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with a uniform to wear,
a fast aeroplane to fly,
and something to shoot at?"

Old Wombat

Quote from: zenrat on September 18, 2016, 04:50:23 AM
A Griffiant.  Very nice.
If it was a quad 50 turret rather than 303s would it look any different in 1/72?
I'd always assumed that the guns were physically the same size just with different sized holes up the middle.

That's true for the Browning .30 cal & the Browning .303 cal but the .50 cal is firing a projectile with 2/3 greater diameter, I'd guess about 6 or 7 times the mass with a considerably larger charge behind it.
This requires a much sturdier body to absorb the recoil & a much heavier barrel to absorb the gas pressure. The M2 is, though, pretty much just a scaled-up M1919.
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Nice build. Looks good! :thumbsup:
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Quote from: Flyer on September 19, 2016, 11:36:29 PM
Love the look of this, looks mean. :thumbsup:

The prop looks odd to me though, like the blade pitch is reversed or something, is it a pusher prop that's been used?

The Griffon goes the other way round to a Merlin though, anti-clockwise when viewed from the cockpit.
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zenrat

Quote from: dogsbody on September 19, 2016, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: zenrat on September 18, 2016, 04:50:23 AM
A Griffiant.  Very nice.
If it was a quad 50 turret rather than 303s would it look any different in 1/72?
I'd always assumed that the guns were physically the same size just with different sized holes up the middle.


This:




is from here:  http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/CannonMGs.htm


Chris
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 19, 2016, 06:50:51 PM
Quote from: zenrat on September 18, 2016, 04:50:23 AM
A Griffiant.  Very nice.
If it was a quad 50 turret rather than 303s would it look any different in 1/72?
I'd always assumed that the guns were physically the same size just with different sized holes up the middle.

That's true for the Browning .30 cal & the Browning .303 cal but the .50 cal is firing a projectile with 2/3 greater diameter, I'd guess about 6 or 7 times the mass with a considerably larger charge behind it.
This requires a much sturdier body to absorb the recoil & a much heavier barrel to absorb the gas pressure. The M2 is, though, pretty much just a scaled-up M1919.

Thanks guys.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..