Started by proditor, May 17, 2016, 08:09:08 AM
Quote This latter exercise had a great impact on Aeronavale thinking, and it may be interesting to briefly explore the subsequent French approach to shipboard VTOL flying. Negotiations were opened with Convair and the US Government during the Spring of '57, eventually resulting in a French order for 24 of the Convair aircraft, and a further order of 20 during 1958. The French aircraft reverted to the US armament of twin 20mm cannon, in this case sourced nationally by DEFA, and 18 FF rockets housed in the tip pods. For some obscure tactical reason the 44 F3Y-3s, as they were designated, were not fitted with radar, improving their climb rate, but making them wholly dependent on the radar pickets for command and control. The Aeronavale named their F3Y-3s as Tornade (Whirlwind) and uniquely amongst F3Y operators, built two specially designed ships to operate the VTOL squadrons, the Seine and the Rhone. These two ships were like carriers in that they had large flight decks compared to the size of the superstructure, but the bridge was placed right in the bows and was complemented by a twin hangar deck lift right in the stern. The overall configuration was similar to a smaller version of the two later Royal Navy assault ships, HMS Intrepid and Fearless, although only half the size. The picket radar sets were incorporated into the design, and thus formed a compact local fleet defence unit, which suited the Aeronavale thinking at the time, but differed from the very much smaller units adopted by the FAA and the USN.
Quote from: proditor on May 17, 2016, 08:09:08 AMYup, an old Matchbox Seakings Convoy Escort (which seems fitting).
Quote from: Mossie on May 18, 2016, 03:56:59 AMDeath or glory!!!
Quote from: Weaver on June 02, 2016, 07:15:27 PMCool project! I've always liked those 'flight deck cruisers' too, although my favorite has to be the Vittorio Veneto.The usual reason given for the Lockheed and Convair VATOL projects being abandoned was that it was too difficult to land them with the pilot looking over his shoulder and trying to balance the plane at the same time. I can't help feeling though, that if they'd put the projects on hold for a few years rather than cancelling them, that closed-circuit TV and auto-stabilisers could have done a lot to make them workable. Of course that wouldn't have solved the problem of them being much slower than jet fighters by that point.
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