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Whiffing Cliches

Started by Mossie, September 19, 2008, 09:29:30 AM

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Mossie

As far as the usual modeler goes, we're an off the wall bunch, but when we get together we tend to come up with a lot of the same ideas.  When someone calls out for an idea, we often come up with the same old stuff.  We also tend to avoid the same stuff.  So what are the old whiff cliches?

I can think of a few off the top of my head:

Israeli camo
Raspberry Ripple
Sweedish splinter cam
Floatplane
"I hate F-16/F-18/F-22/F-35's" etc.

Any more???

Simon
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Weaver

#1
Well I've not been here long enough to notice long-term trends, but I have noticed a tendency to demand a version of just about EVERYTHING in South African cammo....... ;D Mind you, I get the impression that the Canadian contingent have already Maple-Leafed themselves 'til they're stuffed, and the Brits regard painting everything in RAF colours as just normal, so maybe it's a nationalistic thing, though having said that, where are all the Finnish members then?  ;D

Oh and whisper the heresy - TSR.2s.......  :o
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ysi_maniac

Quote from: Weaver on September 19, 2008, 09:43:17 AM
... it's a nationalistic thing ...

A big chunk of them are under 2 cathegories
Nationalistic cliches (probably more than a half of cliches)
and cool schemes: Sweden, Israel, South Africa, Finland, Japan, ... just appied nice colours to their aircrafts
US SEA camo too

BTW: what about a Cliche GB?
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sequoiaranger

#3
It seems like whifs seem to come in many "flavors".

The simplest whif seems to be an OOB subject with alternative markings of an (example) aircraft that was NOT used by the country marked on the aircraft. (e.g.--a South African Me-262). Or, an alternative marking scheme for an aircraft that WAS used, but just not where and by whom it was modeled (e.g. Italian desert-camo Me-262)

Then there are whifs of projects either partially undertaken or just drawing-board that "come to life" (e.g. a Ta-183 jet).

Then there are "extrapolations" of known aircraft (e.g. my "Jinpu-Kai) with or without fictitious markings.

Then there are some out-and-out "inventions" that are only mildly wild and well could-have-been.

Then there are out-and-out FABRICATIONS of who-knows-what, OUTRAGEOUS, implausible what-ifs that are just imaginative and entertaining!!

It's all good!
My mind is like a compost heap: both "fertile" and "rotten"!

B777LR

You all forget the 2 most important ones. Spats and Zwillings! :thumbsup:

ysi_maniac

^^^^^^^^
You are right about zwillings. But I did not mention Spats because it is not cliche, it is a proven fact ... :wacko:
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Brian da Basher

Spats are a cliche? Is there someone else around here as addicted to them as I am?  ;)

:cheers:
Brian da Basher

philp

For some reason T-tails keep popping up also.

By the way, I love F-16's, F-22's (but not so much the F-14/F-18)
Phil Peterson

Vote for the Whiffies

philp

Oops,
Don't forget Gunships and Armed trainers.
Phil Peterson

Vote for the Whiffies

Mossie

Quote from: Weaver on September 19, 2008, 09:43:17 AM
Well I've not been here long enough to notice long-term trends, but I have noticed a tendency to demand a version of just about EVERYTHING in South African cammo....... ;D Mind you, I get the impression that the Canadian contingent have already Maple-Leafed themselves 'til they're stuffed, and the Brits regard painting everything in RAF colours as just normal, so maybe it's a nationalistic thing, though having said that, where are all the Finnish members then?  ;D

Oh and whisper the heresy - TSR.2s.......  :o

There's definately a tendancey to build something of your own nationality, but I'd say that's something that's common with modelling in general.  A lot of the RAF thing with the Brit contingent is mainly down to the theme at this years SMW, it'll calm down a bit after Telford.  You might actually see a plethora of aircraft in another nations colours next year.

I think things like spats, T-tails & such are individuals preferences that sometime inspire others but don't  come down to cliches?  I know they get mentioned a lot, but that's often just a bit tongue in cheek?
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Daryl J.

Someone once said "The tightest conformists are the non-conformists.  They are bound absolutely to avoid the styles and standards of conformists lest they be accused of being the same."  (Todd Sunsted, 1982)   I rather liked the phrase then and enjoy the entertaining madness here now.  :thumbsup:


Daryl J., who just finished his job in PDX.....on to Hermiston

Jschmus

I don't know if this qualifies as a cliche, but every time someone here or elsewhere posts something truly innovative or out-there, there is a chorus of either "Wish I'd thought of that!" or "You know, I sketched something like that, or have a part-started kit-bash or..." and suddenly there are all these clone projects.
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gunfighter

I can add two more: jet powering piston aircraft, and naval versions of land based ones.

Damian2

I stand front and center for the SAAF thing :)  Its mostly my fault...

D

Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.

Weaver

Quote from: Jschmus on September 19, 2008, 02:25:34 PM
I don't know if this qualifies as a cliche, but every time someone here or elsewhere posts something truly innovative or out-there, there is a chorus of either "Wish I'd thought of that!" or "You know, I sketched something like that, or have a part-started kit-bash or..." and suddenly there are all these clone projects.

With me it's mostly a case of thinking I've had a cool idea, only to float it and then have someone post a link to an identical model from three years ago...... :rolleyes:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Morpheus in Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones '