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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2008, 07:39:41 am »
As promised, Chance Vought P-48A Outlaw Mk.I of 247 (China British) Sqn RAF:



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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2008, 02:37:57 pm »
So there I was thinking, I wonder what a in-line Corsair would look like and 1 min later I had this:



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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2008, 03:25:30 pm »
I bet that sucker would be H*ll to land on a carrier!!  Or anywhere else, for that matter. Looks like the YP-37 with that cockpit so far back.
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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2008, 11:01:42 pm »
So there I was thinking, I wonder what a in-line Corsair would look like and 1 min later I had this:



Regards,

Greg

Greg,
take a look a the cutaway I'm linking and you'll see that the aft end of the cowling on the Corsair is not the aft end of the engine installation.
The mounts continue back to joggled line mid fuselage, the one that lines up with the main spar of the wing and the antenna mast a the top.

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/portland/971/images/drawings/f4u_cutaway_01.jpg

Here is a cool site for Corsair drawings.
http://www.f4ucorsair.com/tdata/blueprints.html
Click on the profile and plan views on the left side for blueprints.
Here is the full fuselage centreline, it shows the engine mounts in profile :
http://www.f4ucorsair.com/tdata/fullfuse.jpg

The installed length (including induction system) of the R-2800 in the F4U-1, 2 series was 88.37 inches, in the F4U-4 family 93.77 inches and on the F4U-5 it was 98.5 inches.

Your Griffon wouldn't need to be hanging out in space in the fashion shown.

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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2008, 06:34:55 am »
I'd guess from Jon's description the front end would look something like the Tempest or inline Fury?

Here's a pic of the first Fury packing a Griffon, front end looks pretty much what your going for Greg, if you delete the intake.
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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2008, 09:59:35 am »
There's a couple of options for a Griffon power egg, from a description I was given of one Griffon powered Tempest (the guy had said he'd seen a drawing of it but wasn't able find it again) it was very similar to the Firefly Mk.I/II, but the cowling of the Firefly Mk.IV/V would IMO work a lot better for your application, plus if you use the Airfix kit you'd have a set of leading edge radiators (I don't see where you have placed these in your profile).  The second Griffon powered Tempest is like the photo Mossie posted, (and just FYI the airframe serial number transfered from this Tempest to the Fury shown)
« Last Edit: October 11, 2008, 10:20:11 am by kitnut617 »
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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2008, 12:22:04 pm »
People, I did say I only spent a minute on this so please forgive gross inaccuracies - anyway, maybe it isn't a Griffon engine (it just looks a little like one ;D

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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2008, 11:10:54 am »
F4U-4BX, the second F4U-4 prototype, March 31, 1945 with non-jettisonable tiptanks.  :party:

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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2008, 12:10:48 pm »
Here's a pic of the first Fury packing a Griffon, front end looks pretty much what your going for Greg, if you delete the intake.

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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2010, 02:03:25 pm »
Could the Corsair keep the round cowl and still have an  inline? (Think TA-152, FW-190-D9)
In my opinion, British, Canadian, or USAF markings make things look so much better...

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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2010, 04:28:35 pm »
Could the Corsair keep the round cowl and still have an  inline? (Think TA-152, FW-190-D9)

Well that's what the Fury in the pic above has, gofy. So it should work perfectly on the Corsair because the cowling is about the same diameter.

I used a Shackleton nacelle front too, but had to change a lot of the detail.

« Last Edit: October 20, 2010, 04:30:45 pm by kitnut617 »
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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2010, 05:02:22 am »
Beautifully done kit' !  :bow:

Indeed!  :wub:

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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2010, 07:26:57 am »
Well 2 years on and I've not made a start on my Griffon Corsair!  How lame am I??
Might not bother now, don't want to steal kitnut's thunder.
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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2010, 10:16:50 am »
Well 2 years on and I've not made a start on my Griffon Corsair!  How lame am I??
Might not bother now, don't want to steal kitnut's thunder.
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KB, don't stop because of me, I'd really like to see a Corsair done like this.

Beautifully done kit' !  :bow:

Indeed!  :wub:

Thanks guys, I should get on and finish it, right !!

The carb intake isn't like a Shack's, it's more like the Merlin 85 set-up, top pic here is of the Merlin 85 nacelle (a set of these were kindly provide by Martin H recently), second pic is the Shack's, and the third is how I revised mine.
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Re: F4U, AU1 (Vought), FG1, F2G (Goodyear), and F3A (Brewster) Corsair.
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2010, 05:29:42 pm »
the Fact ...
The Japanese captured 1 Hellcat (bellied in on Formosa) & 1 Corsair (bellied in north of Tokyo). There are photos of both after being put back on their undercarriages & wings folded. There is also a photo of the Hellcat with Hinamarus found by US forces being used as a dummy on an airfield but it's thought it was never actually air-tested by the Japanese.

the Whif ...
Here is my Corsair in Japanese colours ... after testing it was pressed into service for Home Defence & scored 3 victories ...


Doing a diorama of the Tamiya kit in IJN colours -- on its belly, flaps down -- test-pilot scratching head ... "the ground came up quicker than I could find where the gear lever was" ...
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