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Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« on: April 12, 2009, 02:30:28 pm »
Hi folks - my rough interpretation of what a 4-engined stretched Do-217 might look like:



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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 02:41:22 pm »
That looks good, Greg. :thumbsup:


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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 05:13:02 pm »
Nice one, that'll be the Do-434 then?  -_-
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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 02:07:02 am »
Oooh yes! 'Das Neue Ural Bomber' cries out to be done in plastic.

Do I have any Do-17 kits? No. Are any still in production? Probably not. Looks like eBay then.  >:(
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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 06:19:34 am »
Do I have any Do-17 kits? No. Are any still in production?

The Airfix Do-17 was re-issued relatively recently (Hannants and my local Modelzone 10.99) and ICM do two Do-215s.

RS do a whole range of Do-17s, including the radial engined versions, but at over twice the price of the Airfix kit  :o an RS based Ural-Bomber could get expensive - - -

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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 09:09:55 am »
I may only need one Airfix kit. While digging around in The Loft I found an un-touched Monogram Do-17Z!

It's handy that the wings of any of the Monogram/Airfix/Frog Do-17s all fit any of the other kits, the spar cut-out is almost identical on all three.

Now I'll need a smaller early Do-17 type nose, I had one before and made a -17P out of it.
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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 09:38:02 am »
 Neat concepts, but given what Dornier had already done with the Do 26 flying boat, and would do with the
 Do 335, I wonder if a 4-engined Do 217 wouldn't have had pusher/puller pairs, instead of four on the
 leading edge....You might have to tweak the landing gear to get the pusher props to clear...

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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 09:44:56 am »
You might have to tweak the landing gear to get the pusher props to clear...

...or do what they did with the Do-26, put a hinge in the nacelles and lift them up for take-off and landing?
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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 10:29:38 pm »
... and there is the tiniest Do 17 of all ...

the Goppingen Go 9

http://www.luft46.com/prototyp/go9.html



So how about buried engines and a counter-rotating pusher prop on a Do 17?

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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 07:20:33 am »
(sorry to necro the old thread :) )

Ultimate Do-17, in push-pull configuration. Tandem seating for crew of 2, second engine just aft the wing. The U/C retracting would've needed some thinkering.
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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2011, 07:59:44 am »
Except your base drawing for the 4 engined 217 is actually a stretched 215 - which is just a Do 17Z with DB601s for the export market.  The Do 217, whilst superficially similar, is an altogether different airframe.
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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 06:57:47 pm »
I found a discussion at the "72nd Scale Aircraft" site:

http://z15.invisionfree.com/72nd_Aircraft/index.php?showtopic=2507&st=30&#last

on the Do-217M, extended-wing, reformed tail version that carried the heavy "Fritz-X" guided anti-ship bomb (the one that sank the Italian Battleship Roma).

Made me remember I have the "Guano Aeroplane and Zeppelin Works" aftermarket conversion kit and had planned to someday do a RW one from the Italeri Do-217K kit. And I have the Condor Fritz-X as well as another resin one.

Might actually semi-whif-it, making it Italian in desert camo, as if using it against British Fleet battleships in Alexandria (or Malta). Or against possible French immobilized ships in Toulon when Torch landed and the Axis were afraid that French Fleet units might actively return to the Allied side. *MIGHT* make it jet-powered like a He-343.
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Re: Dornier Do-17, 215, 217, 317, 417...
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2012, 11:21:55 pm »
Greg

can you make a 4 engined He111 diagram - I imagine an extended fuselage for a larger bomb bay

I have a couple of 72 scale kits to go that way

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2012, 11:39:10 pm »
dumiac: >can you make a 4 engined He111 diagram - I imagine an extended fuselage for a larger bomb bay<

Like ?:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4100

One of these days I am going to "Phoenix" my own creation with a Lindberg He-111 fuselage (1/64 approx) to enlarge/lengthen it.

But what does this have to do with Dorniers (subject thread)???
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