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GROUP BUILDS => Themed Build Repository => Topic started by: BlackOps on November 15, 2005, 07:44:18 pm

Title: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: BlackOps on November 15, 2005, 07:44:18 pm
Obviously I haven't been here very long and feel kind of silly having to ask this question but how do the group builds work? OK obviously I figured out that the group builds something along the perameters set for the build but how do you know when it's just a suggestion or if it's an official build? Is there a difference?

Some of the group builds sound fun/interesting but I wouldn't want to build something and post pics only to find out I had broken some unwritten rule.

Also how do you know what group builds have expired...the racing tank build sounded fun but looks like it didn't go anywhere...is it still active or did it silently pass into the night?

What are the current official group builds if any? can anyone join or do you need to give advance notice at the time of the build?

Am I making this more complicated than it needs to be? Hey I'm getting old and easily confused  :dum:

Hope all this made sense!

Jeff G.
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: Leigh on November 15, 2005, 10:50:22 pm
Jeff there isnt much official that goes on around here, hell I don't even know if anyone's supposed to be "in charge" I think it's Supertom.
For the two years I've been here all the group builds that have started have been competitions put together by one member.
Idea is germinated in a thread, someone volunteers to sponsor/be in charge whatever you want to call it and offer a modest prize. They then see how much interest there is and what would be a good time frame. The sponsor makes the rules. We build, enter, then a winner is usually picked by popular vote.
Pretty unnofficial
Gary was responsible for the F-Teenybopper because we were all pissing and moaning about grey F-18's
Mike came up with Latin-o-rama 'cos of a thread on how few latin subjects we see.
I came up with a one week build 'cos I was so proud of building a whole model in one weekend.
Gary came up with the twin booms as a tribute to Tophes' constant source of ideas on that subject.
Nev came up with Secret Santa to torture us during the busy holidays.
TSR.2 is obvious to tie in with the Airfix release.
Dunno what's next, in the realm of unnofficialdom they just happen.

As to who can enter the only one we've required advance notice of participation was the Secret Santa because of the obvious logistics that you had to send a kit to someone and they to you. All the others have been build and enter before the due date, tell us about it or suprise us at the end it's up to you.
If you wanna try putting one together, go for it the hardeat part is sorting out a time frame and garnering interest but as I've said before it only take two to make it a group build.
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: BlackOps on November 16, 2005, 03:27:53 pm
Thanks Leigh, that's kinda what I thought but I wasn't 100% sure so I figured asking couldn't hurt ;)



Jeff G.
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: Captain Canada on November 16, 2005, 04:20:34 pm
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I don't even know if anyone's supposed to be "in charge" I think it's Supertom.
 
Troublemaker for president !
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: The Rat on November 16, 2005, 08:44:45 pm
RULES?! We don't need no steeenkin' RULES!  :ar:  
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: Leigh on November 17, 2005, 10:47:15 pm
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Troublemaker for president !
Exactly who is the "Troublemaker" you refer to?

I know Ollie's our official troublemaker but there's a few others who hang out here.

And while we're asking GB questions what is the next one after Secret Santa?
I know it was supposed to be TSR.2 but obviously Airfix are messing us around on that one.
Scooters? S.A.R.? Airfix? did anything get off the ground?
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: nev on November 17, 2005, 11:43:23 pm
I expect we might know more after Telford :)
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: The Rat on November 18, 2005, 06:24:55 am
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Exactly who is the "Troublemaker" you refer to?
Yeah, talk about takin' yer pick.  :P
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And while we're asking GB questions what is the next one after Secret Santa?
I know it was supposed to be TSR.2 but obviously Airfix are messing us around on that one.
Scooters? S.A.R.? Airfix? did anything get off the ground?
I thought we were going with Wooksta's Airfix build, I've got two already planned.  :huh:  
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: Leigh on November 18, 2005, 06:01:50 pm
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I thought we were going with Wooksta's Airfix build, I've got two already planned.  :huh:
Yeah sounds about right starting when? February?
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: The Rat on November 18, 2005, 06:58:37 pm
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I thought we were going with Wooksta's Airfix build, I've got two already planned.  :huh:
Yeah sounds about right starting when? February?
Start date? I thought they just sort of started when enough people said "I'm in!", but had a definite end date. In this thread (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=7113) Lee said "I suggested concurrent with the TSR2 GB (starting April 1, 2006) but others may have different ideas." I'm not sure, but does he mean that the Airfix build should end then and the TSR 2 build begin?

 
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: Ollie on November 18, 2005, 07:13:20 pm
Did someone ask for the official Troublemaker™?

 B)  
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: cthulhu77 on November 19, 2005, 03:17:56 am
Well, Ollie...since airfix has somewhat boned the group tsr2 build, perhaps we could do a Phantom gb ?????
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: Ollie on November 19, 2005, 04:59:05 am
Just Phantoms?  Naaaah...


F-4s and F-111s!

 ;)  
Title: Question about group builds...
Post by: cthulhu77 on November 19, 2005, 06:27:31 am
Just have to rub the salt in, don't ya ?????  
Title: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: K5054NZ on December 24, 2005, 01:49:35 pm
Simple. When? Who? What?

Also, is a "prize" a neccessity?

 :cheers:  
Title: What GBs are happening and when?
Post by: Leigh on December 24, 2005, 02:42:28 pm
Secret Santa till mid Jan
then I believe Airfix
and TSR.2 but that's dependent on it's release date
then there was talk of a Skyhawk build.

Remember Zac nothing is official round here and group builds are usually put together by someone who wants to do it bad enough and it only takes two to qualify for a group build. The problem arises when you try to do two or more builds at the same time alot of people just don't have the time to participate in them and some great ideas with alot of support  at the onset can just fizzle out. That said the site membership has grown enormously this year so it may well be able to support concurrent builds.


As for a prize it just tends to be a carrot to get people involved and is oft just part of the generous spirit around here. If you are gonna put the build together then it's up to you what you do and what the rules/prizes are.


Me personally I usually try to participate in all G.B.s here and am gonna finish my Santa build, take part in Airfix and TSR.2 but don't know about the others cos I've got alot of other projects I want to get done but I may build some real world Scooters and PT. Boats at the same time as those builds if they happen.
Title: What GBs are happening and when?
Post by: Gary on January 06, 2006, 09:20:46 am
Don't forget the offend-a-rama. Personally, I'm gonna try for a civilian B-36 done up for the Trojan condom company.  Might need a lot of fleshtone paint though.
Title: What GBs are happening and when?
Post by: K5054NZ on January 06, 2006, 02:22:59 pm
:lol: We still need someone to organise that tho Gary.

PS - Meow. ;)  
Title: What GBs are happening and when?
Post by: NARSES2 on January 07, 2006, 01:20:30 am
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Don't forget the offend-a-rama. Personally, I'm gonna try for a civilian B-36 done up for the Trojan condom company.  Might need a lot of fleshtone paint though.
nNah do a B26 and call it a "Counter Invader"  :P  
Title: What GBs are happening and when?
Post by: cthulhu77 on January 07, 2006, 05:28:32 am
Oh boy...some fun group builds this year!  Vac, pt, airfix, and offend-o...:cheers:
Title: What GBs are happening and when?
Post by: nev on January 07, 2006, 11:15:10 pm
Just a note - SSGB finishes Feb 21st.

And the prize is that the winner gets a group build themed after them :)
Title: What GBs are happening and when?
Post by: Leigh on January 08, 2006, 01:10:10 pm
Oh you boys are gonna love the "Twiglet Gannet" build
Title: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Nils on March 07, 2006, 06:10:51 am
although i am not in a financial position to buy prises for group builds, but just for the fun of it, i got some good ideas for group builds.

- "the airline escort service" GB

in this group build, each builds a fighter jet, and paint it in civilian airline colors
for exsample: Lufthansa tornado's, American Airlines F-15,......
the objective is to build a fighter to escort airlines into warzone's without support of a military escort   :wub:

- "the Tanker GB"

in this build, you are in charge of building your own Tanker aircraft.
feel free to use an aircraft and refuelingsystem of your choise.
(exsample: A-330, A-380, 767, 747, 777, concorde,....)  :wub:

- "the MSN group mercenairy" GB

everyone builds a fighter in your own mercenairy colors
exsample: Saddams private Mig-23, Austin powers Jaguar Gr.3 (shaguar Gr.3)
rule: multitone military camo sheme's are not allowed, so use special color shemes.
winner gets an MSN group website named after him  :lol:


these are just a couple of ideas, anyone else got a random idea  ;)
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: Damian2 on March 08, 2006, 12:54:37 am
I love the idea of a mercinary GB! Too cool!!!

Could you just clarify the following:

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rule: multitone military camo sheme's are not allowed, so use special color schemes.

 :cheers:  
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: Nils on March 08, 2006, 03:17:30 am
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Could you just clarify the following:

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rule: multitone military camo sheme's are not allowed, so use special color schemes.
that means that camo shemes like this one are not allowed
(http://www.aviation-art.net/a10%20composite.jpg)

but u can use shemes like this
(http://www.sci.fi/~fta/riat9815.jpg)

like a "special paint" GB, its similar  B)  
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: Nils on March 08, 2006, 05:38:30 am
ok, just thought of another idea for a group build, and im sure alot would like to do this one.

most people know MTV's "Pimp my ride", well what do you think of:


- the "Pimp My Plane" group build

it goes like this, everyone selects an old crappy looking aircraft from there shelf or bone yard and turns it into "a pair of pimped wings"

exsample: i got an old Mig-15 on my shelf, the wings were broken of, there are pieces missing from the tail, and the paintjob is practicly gone, what do i do:

-ad new swept wings
-a modern cockpit with MP3 and CD player
-a flashy sporty looking paintjob (exs: metallic purple with glitters  :lol: )
-fresh sporty looking decals


anyone else got cool GB ideas  ;)  
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: Nigel Bunker on April 25, 2006, 04:01:53 am
As well as Group Builds, what about Group Displays. All you have to do is to post the pictures of models you have alread made on the chosen theme. These could be run over say a fortnight, and would also give members who don't get to shows a chance to see some of the builds.

Also, if anybody wants to build a kit for the GD, they can but they'll just have to be quick.

What do you think?
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: Captain Canada on April 25, 2006, 05:18:26 am
Neat idea. Kinda happens by default here, tho...as alot of us will post similar models on anothers' thread.

 
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: The Rat on April 25, 2006, 05:21:28 am
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Neat idea. Kinda happens by default here, tho...as alot of us will post similar models on anothers' thread.
Yeah, but this gets around the problem of feeling guilty about taking a thread to Cuba.  :P  
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: NARSES2 on April 26, 2006, 12:04:20 am
Bump to you as well Nigel - anyways just seen this and me thinks is not a bad idea

We Brits are a little luckier in that our geography means some of us can get to shows and see the models but this as you say would enable all of us to see them. So why not kick it off yourself with your GB Soviet stuff ? Or are they being saved for something  B)

Chris
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: Nigel Bunker on April 26, 2006, 01:59:37 am
Chris

I thought we could all contribute one or two rather than one person contributing all of them.

I suggest one rule only - all models to be photographed on a white background. This will give some unity to the display, and everybody can put a few sheets of white paper on a table to photograph their model on. The idea is in the same way that model clubs have a theme night sometimes.

Now all we need is the agreement of the moderators and for them to give us a space on the board.

Also any ideas for a theme? I thought perhaps "Extra Dark Sea Grey" which would let in lots of naval subjects (EDSG overall, EDSG & Sky, EDSG & White, EDSG and chips, EDSG, chips and spam, EDSG, spam, Chips and spam,.......etc)
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: NARSES2 on April 26, 2006, 04:19:12 am
Nigel the idea gets better now that I've got my brain into gear. Something like this would be ideal to print off and assemble for a brochure showcasing members work that we could then have available for people at shows to look at ?

I'm more then happy to put the brochure together and keep it up to date

As for EDSG - good start, I've one to go on that

Chris

 
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: The Rat on April 26, 2006, 05:25:29 am
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I suggest one rule only - all models to be photographed on a white background.
The trouble with that rule is that you are suggesting we post pictures of stuff we've done before, and some of those may not have a white background. With this requirement we would need to haul out the model again and do another set of photographs, and some of them may not even exist anymore.
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: Nigel Bunker on April 26, 2006, 06:15:05 am
Rat

"all models to be photographed on a white background preferably."

How about that?
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: The Rat on April 26, 2006, 06:23:43 am
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Rat

"all models to be photographed on a white background preferably."

How about that?
No problem. I think white backgrounds are better, just didn't want to miss seeing some nice work because the only picture somebody got was on their workbench 3 seconds before the #&%$ing cat pounced on it.  ^_^  
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 26, 2006, 06:33:25 am
I really like this idea! Unfortunately, once I photograph a model, it joins the ceiling fleet, and taking it down to re-photograph it is quite a chore. My older builds won't have the white background, but if I posted new pics they will.

Brian da Basher
Title: How about an alternative to Group Builds
Post by: lancer on April 26, 2006, 06:51:16 am
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Neat idea. Kinda happens by default here, tho...as alot of us will post similar models on anothers' thread.
Yeah, but this gets around the problem of feeling guilty about taking a thread to Cuba.  :P
Personally, I like the idea of going to Cuba. Loys of hard bodied women, rum, beer sunshine ect....can't go wrong B)  B)  B)  B)  B)  
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: Nils on May 14, 2006, 03:10:31 am
*BUMP*

im back with some more group build idea's.

the "Geofiction-Build"

in this build, everyone starts its own country and equipes it with an Air Arm.
rules are simple  B)

-select an aircraft of choice
-the country must be fictional (or dont exsist anymore, exsample: Manchuria)
-the roundel must be own design, could be a simple colored dot or something verry complicated  B)
-backhistory is optional.


the Corporation GB

in this build, u make your own defence company.
i got the idea from "Ace Combat 3". the purpuse is to build a fighter in corporate colors (exsample: TNT, FED-EX, DHL, US Postal,....)


anyone else wanna submit an idea  B)  
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 14, 2006, 04:07:33 pm
I like the Geofiction GB idea. I've been toying with some fictional markings for a while now. I'd be interested in this one for sure.

Brian da Basher
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: Gary on May 14, 2006, 04:43:07 pm
Ok, that is a group of fantasitc ideas, and now I need to leave to write a story. Niles, I'll pm ya when it's done so that if it's published I can give you credit.  
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: Captain Canada on May 14, 2006, 07:55:19 pm
I plan on building an A-380 TT and a few escort birds for it, so I'm kinda already in !

 
Title: multiple group build ideas
Post by: anthonyp on May 14, 2006, 08:15:21 pm
Someone mention tankers?  I've currently got one of those 1/300 Airfix 777-200's on the bench becoming a large tanker, and as well as a Hasegawa 1/200 MD-11 becoming a KC-10 replacement/supplement.
Title: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Scooterman on December 14, 2006, 08:46:23 pm
Could a calendar be added somewhere (perhaps easier out on the main site instead of here?) for those of us needing a quick glance of what's running/upcoming and to post shows?  I know we have a spot on the forum for upcoming events but I think presented as a form suggested might be easier.  Just a suggestion-not trying to make more work for our mods, honest!
Title: Group Build Calender?
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 14, 2006, 09:29:34 pm
Hmmm let's see...

We've got:

Phoenix GB Nov. 17 - June 30

Secret Santa GB Dec. 25 - June 25

Falklands/Malvinas GB Jan. 9 - June 14

Pending:

Alt. Landing Gear/VSTOL GB Feb. 1 - Aug. 1

USAF GB July 4 - Sept. 18

And we might have another 1 Week GB (I'm hoping) this summer.

Wow that's a pretty full calendar!

Brian da Basher

P.S. Is anyone up for a Matchbox GB?
Title: Group Build Calender?
Post by: anthonyp on December 15, 2006, 06:18:01 am
I want to shoehorn in the SAR/Coastie build somewhere in there too.  Might I suggest July 1st to December 15th?  That way, we get the summer tourist swimmer rescues, and the whack job early ice fisherman on the lakes if any part of them is frozen.
Title: Group Build Calender?
Post by: GTX on December 16, 2006, 11:56:20 am
There was also Captain Canada's Water Bomber Build (see here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=11242&hl=water))

and possibly a Pirate GB (to coincide with International Talk Like a Pirate Day on September 19) - see here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=12106&hl=water) for more.

I'm not sure if people want these as official GBs as well.

Regards,

Greg
Title: Group Build Calender?
Post by: nev on December 16, 2006, 12:56:05 pm
many volunteer but only few are chosen.....

Succesfull GB's are like Gideon's 300  ;)

I have added a GB calendar to the forum as requested, I shall speak to geoff about maybe adding some guidelines as well.
Title: Group Build Calender?
Post by: Leigh on December 16, 2006, 06:06:57 pm
Nev, saw the calendar and I'd be happy to steer the one week build if you like?
Title: Group Build Calender?
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on December 16, 2006, 08:38:28 pm
I'd love another one-weeker in the Summer.  Though I missed this year's it's still one of my favorites and a great excuse to spend a week in the air conditioning here in North Carolina!
Title: Group Build Calender?
Post by: anthonyp on December 17, 2006, 08:53:09 am
Like I said in the SAR build, I already have prizes ready.
Title: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: philp on January 19, 2007, 06:33:45 pm
All,
Thinking of getting in the 3rd world GB but need a craft that fits.

From the Mouse that Roared, everyones favorite conquering country, The Duchy of Grand Fenwick.
Coming up with an aircraft for this small (3x5 miles) pre-industrial country is wracking my brain.  
BDB graciously offered a 72nd SPAD for this but I am thinking something a little more modern but still not too taxing.
Maybe some war booty from the US.  Lets see... late 50's early 60's, not too technical unless they got some mechanics in the deal.  Might have to be able to carry the Q Bomb to be a viable treat.
(http://www.aggedor.com/William_Hartnell/q-bomb.jpg)
Any ideas?

(http://www.geocities.com/flagsofillbethisad/fw.gif)
Like this for the National marking but not sure if I prefer it as a roundel or a flag type but probably roundels in 6 positions and flag as tail flash.
Anyone good at making decals (also still need those Mormon Beehive markings)?
Title: Backstory Contest/group Build?
Post by: John Howling Mouse on February 03, 2007, 07:33:37 am
My recent post about a proposed conversion concept included an open invitation for backstories.

Light bulb went on.

I know we have an entire "Alternative Histories" section but have we ever done a Contest or Group Build wherein modellers produce their What If subjects (air, land, sea) and purposely leave the entire backstory up to anyone else on the board who would like to contribute?

There are so many people on this site with exceptional historical knowledge coupled with creativity and fantastic writing skills (you know who you are) that I think it would be exciting to see what they'd come up with to explain any given model concept.  I feel it would be a nice way to join forces, giving those with this special talent a chance to brainstorm their writing craft using the styrene work of others.

This wouldn't even have to be a structured event with a pre-determined start/finish date and/or voting, prizes, etc.

It could simply be a "Group Build" sub-forum specifically set up to capture the multiple ideas for a given build.  Any modeller who wants to could begin their thread by posting their pics of a suitable subject and an open invitation to any and all to provide their background histories.
Title: Backstory Contest/group Build?
Post by: Maverick on February 03, 2007, 12:27:03 pm
Interesting concept JHM, should be different seeing the divergence of backstory compared to the original builder's concepts...

Mav
Title: Backstory Contest/group Build?
Post by: Hobbes on February 03, 2007, 01:55:08 pm
Yes, we've had something like this a while ago: look here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=4247&hl=)

This would be the simplest way to do it. Just post pictures of your finished model, and invite the group to write backstories.
 
Title: Backstory Contest/group Build?
Post by: John Howling Mouse on February 03, 2007, 07:10:58 pm
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Yes, we've had something like this a while ago: look here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=4247&hl=)

This would be the simplest way to do it. Just post pictures of your finished model, and invite the group to write backstories.
Yes, cool.  My suggestion is that an actual sub-forum is opened for ongoing "entries" so this kind of thing is grouped together.
Title: Backstory Contest/group Build?
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 05, 2007, 06:23:27 am
I must confess that I am not very good creating backstories. So, I like this idea  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
Title: Assistance Needed -
Post by: MartG on February 07, 2007, 06:04:00 am
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small (3x5 miles)
Kinda rules out a B-36 then  :rolleyes:  - unless it had VTOL :lol:

 
Title: Assistance Needed -
Post by: philp on February 07, 2007, 11:45:18 am
Thanks Mart ^_^

Actually going with a Tamiya F-84G that BDB sent me.
Anthonyp is looking at making me some decals so now just need to come up with a Q bomb and a decent camo.

BDB suggested the old Spad camo (not sure what his fascination with French biplanes is).  I am thinking maybe the NATO green/grey over light blue or maybe something with a vine type camo...
Title: Assistance Needed -
Post by: Brian da Basher on February 07, 2007, 06:20:26 pm
I really like the idea of a vine camo as that fits in well with what started the whole Grand Fenwick/U.S. conflict. For a Q-bomb check your stash and see it there's a smaller sized bomb you can gussy up. Alternatively, a 1/144 scale drop tank might be a solutions.

I can't wait to see more on this exciting project phil!

Brian da Basher
Title: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 11, 2007, 06:52:04 am
I think it will be easy for the lot of Photoshop experts/artists we have here. It would go as follows:

A new subforum is settled in which everyone can post designs of a medal to award winners in the different GBs.

Designs must be submitted in three shades: gold, silver and bronze.

Is 2 weeks duration OK?

We choose the winner in a public poll.

Since then, every awarded in any GB can exhibit his/her medals in signature, for instance.

So, are there any graphic designer interested?

Thanks,
Carlos.
Title: Design Thi Whiffery Medal
Post by: nev on October 11, 2007, 09:13:49 am
It has to be a golden twiglet, surely?
Title: Design Thi Whiffery Medal
Post by: lancer on October 12, 2007, 01:45:20 am
How about the about the order of the Golden Pork Pie? This could be awarded to our Ex-pat community for outstanding contributions to wiffery.. :ph34r:  :ph34r:  
Title: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: kitnut617 on January 11, 2008, 05:33:07 pm
Like it says, my Nottingham project would fit into either the CG/SAR GB or the Piston Perfection.

Cheers.....

Robert
Title: Re: How many GB's can a model be entered into?
Post by: Captain Canada on January 11, 2008, 09:03:32 pm
Good point ?!

I'd be guessing since you've had 'er in the SAR build the whole time, that'd be the road to go down......

Title: Re: How many GB's can a model be entered into?
Post by: nev on January 12, 2008, 12:48:50 am
Well, in the past I've had them overlap as it were, but I've tried to do it so that the model is only officially "entered" in one GB - otherwise there is the possibility someone might accuse you of trawling for prizes.  Best thing to do is to ask the mods of the relevant GBs.
Title: Re: How many GB's can a model be entered into?
Post by: anthonyp on January 12, 2008, 06:23:30 am
What Nev said.  It's up to the individual GB mods to set up the rules for their own GB's.  If one were built for Piston Perfection, then entered into the CG/SAR, I'd allow it, but I'm not sure what the mods of the PP GB would say if you wanted to go the other way.
Title: Re: How many GB's can a model be entered into?
Post by: Hobbes on January 12, 2008, 06:49:20 am
In general, the rules have been set up so a model only competes once (e.g. you can't enter models built before the GB start date). So I'd prefer to enter the model in one GB, and if you want, add it to the 'ineligible builds' thread in the other GB.
Title: Re: How many GB's can a model be entered into?
Post by: kitnut617 on January 12, 2008, 06:59:49 am
Well that makes sense guys, I just wondered, although 'trolling' for prizes is the furthest from my thoughts.   Just reading your comments about my build is my prize. Always appreciated.

Robert 
Title: GB selection
Post by: Hobbes on April 14, 2008, 03:52:18 am
For the last few group builds, we've had a vote to choose the GB. What happens to the GB ideas that don't make the cut? I can't find the old polls, but I've got the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the old ideas keep being tacked onto the latest poll.
When do we decide that a GB isn't going to happen? I suspect GBs have an expiry date: an idea gets proposed and it fires up people's imagination. If the idea is on the backburner too long, everyone will move on and eventually none of the imagined projects will get built.

The reason I'm asking: I've got one or two builds that would fit one of these GB ideas (e.g. the Landspeed Record GB), and I keep postponing them to see if the GB in question ever gets off the ground.
Title: Re: GB selection
Post by: anthonyp on April 14, 2008, 01:41:29 pm
For the last few group builds, we've had a vote to choose the GB. What happens to the GB ideas that don't make the cut? I can't find the old polls, but I've got the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the old ideas keep being tacked onto the latest poll.
When do we decide that a GB isn't going to happen? I suspect GBs have an expiry date: an idea gets proposed and it fires up people's imagination. If the idea is on the backburner too long, everyone will move on and eventually none of the imagined projects will get built.

The reason I'm asking: I've got one or two builds that would fit one of these GB ideas (e.g. the Landspeed Record GB), and I keep postponing them to see if the GB in question ever gets off the ground.
Actually, that's one of the reasons behind the polls:  Group-Builds-of-the-Week.  These resulted in the polls because people would get all fired up for an idea of the moment, and forget about good ideas that have been around for a while.

Old ideas keep being put on the poll until they get chosen (ex, the Profiles build has been on the calender for a long time, and it was almost chosen this time).  There's no expiration date on GB ideas.

New ideas get put to the end of the line unless they've got a real world goal associated with the build (ie, the proposed Spitfire GB where those who want to organize it want to have the builds ready for a show later this year).  There's plenty for the future, but there's also quite a few good ideas that are still around.

As for your ideas, who cares when the GB kicks off?  Build it anyways!  Maybe your build will make others rally around the GB idea and vote it in.
Title: Unofficial GB's
Post by: philp on June 20, 2008, 02:30:01 pm
About how many GB's do we have each year? 4, 6, 8?

The last poll anthonyp put out had 17 different suggestions on it, leaving 16 waiting in the wings.  In the mean time, there will be 3+ new ideas before the next poll comes out.  Anyone else see the dilemma?  We will never get through the ideas and it could take 2-3 years before a GB you have been waiting for gets voted in. 

I am sorry but in 6 months to a year, I could lose interest in an idea I had today.  So, either I build it when I get the idea, I wait to see if maybe, a GB will get started or, how about, an unofficial GB?

I have plans for the LSR GB and the Spitfire GB.  I kind of started what has turned out to be a possible future GB for the Trainers with Teeth.

I want to start working on these kits now while the interest is high so they may get built before any of the GB's become active.  Then I am stuck when the GB finally happens (as opposed to being stuck by way too many profiles to pick from for the Profile GB).

How about we have some unofficial GB's that may only have 5-10 participants mixed in among the ideas that seemed to have generated a lot of interest.  These could still be done a major GB's, maybe limited to 4 per year.

Just spitballing (ugh) here, feel free to throw in your .02 cents worth.  Would like your input.
Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: GTX on June 20, 2008, 02:42:58 pm
Or what if having pre-official start date entries allowed?  Specifically, if you declare what you are going to build during GB discussion now and then between now and the official start date (in say 6 - 12 months or more), you actually build it, still be allowed to enter it in the GB.  The main rule in this case would be proof that you stated your intention and have not varied along the way.

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: Shasper on June 20, 2008, 03:18:47 pm
Depends on the mod's personal preference. . . And dont forget there are a few ideas that Commisar Antoly dropped from the GB idea pool (like my suggestion for a "Black Ops GB")


Shas 8)
Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 20, 2008, 07:56:24 pm
Well "unoffical" group builds never used to be a problem. Just get some like-minded folks interested and start a thread over on the Post Pics of Your Current Project section. I completely understand how you feel Phil and I can't imagine anyone being upset if four or five people have an "unoffical" GB if they want.

GTX, you totally hit on something. That's why I always allow "already started projects" in group builds I moderate. I like to open things up as much as possible.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: anthonyp on June 21, 2008, 08:26:36 am
If members want to have an "Unofficial GB", you're allowed.  Go to town in the "What's on your bench" section. 

Reason I do not put brand new ideas up is there's been a few over the last year or so that popped up, had a lot of support and noise prior to the build, they got made "official" then actual participation was less than five individuals, meanwhile, other ideas that we've bandied about for years sat in the wings.  Like I said, members wanting to get together to build a bunch of similar things at the same time, go right ahead.  This is a fun hobby and ideas and builds are not any less important if they're not in an "official" GB.

Addressing some of the other issues in this thread, already built, or in progress stuff is up to the individual GB mods.  I don't have a problem with them in GB's, but some want the builds to go only within the specific time frame.

And as for GB's being dropped, they're not dropped, I just forget to put them back on the GB poll.  The Gerry Anderson GB idea was pointed out as missing from the last one (honest mistake, there) and I didn't realize your Black Ops went into "deep cover," Shas.  PM me in the future if I leave your GB off the poll and it will be rectified.
Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: Weaver on June 24, 2008, 02:04:47 am
Or what if having pre-official start date entries allowed?  Specifically, if you declare what you are going to build during GB discussion now and then between now and the official start date (in say 6 - 12 months or more), you actually build it, still be allowed to enter it in the GB.  The main rule in this case would be proof that you stated your intention and have not varied along the way.

Regards,

Greg

Depends how important you think the competition aspect of a GB is. If it is important, then pre-official start date entries could be seen as unfair, since some competitors will have had over a year to work on their model whilst others will have only had the official timescale of the GB.

Now personally, I don't give a monkey's about the competition aspect: to me, the GBs are just another way of generation "moivational ideas"......
Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: Taiidantomcat on June 24, 2008, 03:06:39 pm
I think Unofficial GBs are a great idea. I love this forum because its very laid back and extremely flexible, (like BdaB allowing entries that had been started previously). The ARCforum has an "unofficial armor group build" that goes indefinitely, one that could easily apply to Russian WHifs here as they are popular. RAF 100 could be a GB that goes until 2018!! i also think the unofficial GBs would gather more steam as imaginations get rolling and more entries will follow.
Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: Daryl J. on June 24, 2008, 06:16:34 pm
FWIW, the thought has often entered Ye Olde (deficient) Minde to have a one-or-more member, unlimited time GB on a specific topic.   For instance, tricked out WW-I and shortly thereafter aircraft.   Start to completion of GB....who knows.....5 years.....10 maybe.    Or another, the Race d'Euro Air using alternative machines to what is used at Reno and having the race somewhere pleasant in Europe.    Again, same time frame.    The point would not be to get a model built and out there, but rather a display of art and exploration of technique.

If the GB was one member big, that is sufficient, more is better.   

The idea came after seeing the Harrier SIG's display when it was in McMinneville, OR.     That must have taken some time to put together......years perhaps?   Seeing the Schnieder '49 display a couple of times was great and each display was some time after the completion of the contest.   


But that's an idea only.   :thumbsup:
 :cheers:,
Daryl J.





Title: Re: Unofficial GB's
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 27, 2008, 08:07:27 pm
I like the idea of a few members getting together for an unofficial GB, but anyone itching to start a project for a GB should also remember that the Official Grand And Mighty Annual One Week Group Build is coming up very soon.  Since it is open to any and all whif themes and subjects it's a good way to sneak a pet project into and official GB.

Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: puddingwrestler on December 13, 2008, 03:29:40 pm
Just been reading thie thread in it's entirity (since it looks like I seem to have volunteered to run a GB) and I came across the proposal for our graphically minded members to design a medal/trophy thing to be used on all GB winning certificates and papers. Did that happen? Has said medal been created or should I go fire up Illustraitor? And has any thought been given to making a paper model trophy which can then be emailed, printed and assembled by the winner?
I ask because the murky depths of this thread seem to point to older versions of the forum where pudding bespattered loons a: fear to tread and b: where not around for the making and enjoying of.
Title: GB closing dates
Post by: kitbasher on May 11, 2009, 01:14:18 am
A query - an observation - really, concerning GBs.  Now I've entered a number of GBs in the relatively short time I've been signed up to the forum and I've always tried to meet the deadline.  What I've noticed is that with every GB a two week extension is usually sought and inevitably awarded.  Now I'm not grumbling about extensions in general as I think I've benefitted from one myself in the past - and as a means of encouraging people to complete their GB entries I understand why an extension is desirable.

But it does mean that those who try and meet the deadline might feel that their efforts to undertake a little bit of strictly friendly competitiveness are devalued by a little move of the goal posts here and there.  Should GB deadlines be strictly adhered to - or is that too draconian a measure and would it actually undermine the spirit of strictly friendly competitiveness a GB seeks to instill? 

Alternatively, does it mean that the GB deadlines in general are in fact a tad too tight, and that they need to be a fraction longer from the off, but with no extension requested/awarded as the finishing line looms into sight?

As I've said, it's an observation (certainly not a complaint or a campaign) and I wonder what other members think.  Any thoughts anyone?

Regards,

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: The Rat on May 11, 2009, 05:09:46 am
I always view group builds as just that, a build and not a contest. Everybody taking part has an assignment but we shouldn't take it too seriously. I have no objection to one (1) extension being granted, anything more is taking advantage of the situation.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Modelling_Mushi on May 22, 2009, 06:26:00 am
Gday all
As a bit of a newbie, when do the next round of group builds get announced? Just noticing that 3 or 4 are now at the voting stage, do you crank up anotehr 5 or so for the second part of the year? And how do you decide which ones, are they the next in line on the voting list?
Ciao
Mass
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: nev on May 25, 2009, 01:32:02 am
Whenever Comrade Anatoly, Group Build Commisar, will put up a poll with a list of options.  Usually the ones that have been suggested since the last poll, plus the ones that came close in that one.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Cobra on May 25, 2009, 01:55:50 am
Hey Guys, Just Wondering...........has there ever or are there Plans for a Fantasy Submarine GB??? just wondering.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Nils on May 31, 2009, 10:39:11 am
just a thoght here Barbosa  ;D, when is the next GB poll  :huh:
i know that there are 5 open now, but most of them are drawing to a close or are closed  :rolleyes:
i know i still have a few projects to finish, but i really want to get back on the swing  :lol:
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 14, 2009, 10:06:56 am
Is there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Daryl J. on June 14, 2009, 04:40:05 pm
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s there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...

Was wondering the same thing.



Daryl J.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Taiidantomcat on June 14, 2009, 05:43:08 pm
Is there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...

Someone is ready to win two years in a row  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 14, 2009, 10:08:15 pm
Is there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...

Someone is ready to win two years in a row  :thumbsup:


Three actually....    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: nev on June 14, 2009, 10:50:18 pm
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Is there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near....

Yes there is....the date should be announced real soon.  I am having surgery in the near future, but I haven't got the date yet and being in limbo is screwing my life up big style - holidays, shift patterns, and of course the 5th Annual 1 Week Group Build
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Doc Yo on June 16, 2009, 12:12:30 pm
 What happened to the floatplane/flying boat GB forum? It seems to have vanished.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 16, 2009, 12:23:58 pm
What happened to the floatplane/flying boat GB forum? It seems to have vanished.

Try this:clicky (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/board,90.0.html)

You have to go to the 2009 Group Builds part of the menu at the bottom. This may be due to the fact the GB ended May 31st. Now all we need is some way to have our votes tallied so the winners can be determined.
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Doc Yo on June 16, 2009, 02:21:09 pm
 That works-thanks Brian. Should've looked around a bit more
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Mossie on June 16, 2009, 02:37:17 pm
It may be a little early, but has the Secret Santa GB officially kicked the bucket?  If so, any ideas for a different festive GB?

Yes there is....the date should be announced real soon.  I am having surgery in the near future, but I haven't got the date yet and being in limbo is screwing my life up big style - holidays, shift patterns, and of course the 5th Annual 1 Week Group Build

Ouch, hope everything goes okay Nev.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: nev on June 17, 2009, 01:42:25 am
It may be a little early, but has the Secret Santa GB officially kicked the bucket?  If so, any ideas for a different festive GB?

Yes.  The first one was a raging success, so we did another one, and that was very subdued, so it was dropped as an annual thing.  Greg talked about reviving it, but I don't think it ever got past the talk stage.

Quote
Ouch, hope everything goes okay Nev.

Thanks mate, I'm having me Gall Bladder out the day after the Coventry show (29th)....expect announcement on the 1WGB soon!
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 17, 2009, 01:50:50 am
Gall Bladder GB, anyone? ;)

Best of luck to you for a speedy recovery, Nev!
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher

Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: anthonyp on July 14, 2009, 06:08:35 pm
Thanks for covering my lazy butt, Brian.

Oof...  Yes, I've been absent, but felt guilt as all get out about suddenly disappearing.  Look for a new GB poll for 3 new GB's later this week.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: PACOPEPE on November 22, 2009, 12:14:38 pm
Excuse me, but.............do you know someone how finished the contest of Flying boat, Sea plane and Amphibian GB?. It finished on 31st May, and im still waiting to know it.


All the best.....
PACOPEPE
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Weaver on November 22, 2009, 01:14:47 pm
Excuse me, but.............do you know someone how finished the contest of Flying boat, Sea plane and Amphibian GB?. It finished on 31st May, and im still waiting to know it.


All the best.....
PACOPEPE


Yes, you won it! Congratulations!

Thread here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,25375.0.html
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: PACOPEPE on November 23, 2009, 09:54:39 am
Excuse me, but.............do you know someone how finished the contest of Flying boat, Sea plane and Amphibian GB?. It finished on 31st May, and im still waiting to know it.


All the best.....
PACOPEPE


Yes, you won it! Congratulations
Thread here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,25375.0.html

Thank very much Weaver, i thought so too, but im not totaly sure. The reason is that not yet, designate the winner in that contest until today.


cheers
PACOPEPE
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Zombolt on February 01, 2011, 12:38:36 pm
Hi, Mildly new here, Is there a requirement for being in a GB? A skill level or a forum grade or the like?
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Taiidantomcat on February 01, 2011, 01:13:31 pm
Hi, Mildly new here, Is there a requirement for being in a GB? A skill level or a forum grade or the like?

Nope. jump right in  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: GTX on February 01, 2011, 01:14:19 pm
Hi, Mildly new here, Is there a requirement for being in a GB? A skill level or a forum grade or the like?

Nope - just enthusiasm! ;)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Zombolt on February 01, 2011, 01:51:08 pm
Cool, I hope people like what I make!
Title: Stagger GB start/stop dates?
Post by: sandiego89 on June 10, 2011, 06:52:02 pm
Perhaps a thought for the future that multiple GB's should not start and end at the same time?  Seems some of us need those last few days- me very much included- and it would be nice if they ran at different times. Overlap is fine, just not the same start and end dates.  Helps with long range planning.  Perhaps a month difference? 

Both the '46 and Africa GB's had nearly the same start and end dates, and the ship and VTOL GB's are following the same pattern.  Thank you. 
Title: Re: Stagger GB start/stop dates?
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 11, 2011, 08:25:30 am
Perhaps a thought for the future that multiple GB's should not start and end at the same time?  Seems some of us need those last few days- me very much included- and it would be nice if they ran at different times. Overlap is fine, just not the same start and end dates.  Helps with long range planning.  Perhaps a month difference? 

Both the '46 and Africa GB's had nearly the same start and end dates, and the ship and VTOL GB's are following the same pattern.  Thank you. 

I second this motion!
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Mossie on June 11, 2011, 08:34:15 am
I've thought along similar lines too, we get around to a bit less than one a month, so how about we kick off monthly, if there's a gap it doesn't matter too much?  Sounds like a lot more work, but it wouldn't have to be.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Taiidantomcat on June 11, 2011, 11:10:28 am
Staggered makes a lot of sense, and just takes a little more planning  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: ChernayaAkula on June 11, 2011, 04:35:34 pm
I think the monthly start dates were basically agreed upon in the "Poll for 2011 GBs" thread. The idea being that with a length of three months, there'd always be three GBs on the go at any given moment. Kinda like this...

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/GB-timetable.png)

Only it wouldn't be so tidy because of possible GB extensions...  :lol: (which, I think, shouldn't interfere with start dates of the next GBs).
I think the One-Week GB should be exempt from this. Don't know about other "special" GBs such as Secret Santa, though.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Zombolt on June 16, 2011, 05:39:22 pm
Question

I had to order a new memory card for my camera, yet I have a kit to build, can I make a post about it and post pictures after I get my new memory card?
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: NARSES2 on June 17, 2011, 01:08:57 am
Question

I had to order a new memory card for my camera, yet I have a kit to build, can I make a post about it and post pictures after I get my new memory card?

If the kit is in a specific Group Build and that GB has officially finished then PM the GB Moderator for advice.

Don't forget you can always put your pictures and backstory up in the General Modelling area as well

Chris
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Zombolt on June 17, 2011, 10:03:56 am
Thank you :D
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: MilitaryAircraft101 on September 21, 2011, 01:32:10 pm
With themed builds, do they have to adhere with all of the "Group Build" criteria, (which are official) or can I just whack in a thread with rules and start it?
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Hobbes on September 21, 2011, 01:43:54 pm
You should first find out if there's sufficient interest. Otherwise we'd end up with 'theme builds' with only one participant, which defeats the point.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 21, 2011, 02:25:35 pm
With themed builds, do they have to adhere with all of the "Group Build" criteria, (which are official) or can I just whack in a thread with rules and start it?

You just did!  ;D

And there's LOTS of interest too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: NARSES2 on September 22, 2011, 08:24:18 am
You should first find out if there's sufficient interest. Otherwise we'd end up with 'theme builds' with only one participant, which defeats the point.

Harro is right. Make sure you have enough genuine interest, then float your proposed rules, then re check your numbers, then go for it.

The reason I'm saying check and check again is because it's very easy to get carried away with fresh ideas (I do all the time) but you might find people over commit ? One way around the fact that some will want to get involved with numerous Themed Builds is to offer a generous timescale. Above all use the PM system to consult with those expressing an interest in your idea. It will just help concentrate the mind a little better. I suppose in a way there is no minimum number of participants - as long as it's not just you, in that case start your own thread in the General Modelling section. Once you are sure of the level of commitment then go with it.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: perttime on January 13, 2012, 04:02:19 am
Just an idea: no promises that I'll do anything further about it myself.

Civilianized military aircraft.

Everybody is putting "wrong" military color schemes or insignia on military aircraft. What if... you took a military aircraft and made it into your private civilian sports transport. Maybe the "real" aircraft is larger than what you really want? Make it smaller, as long as you will fit inside. There might be room for a 1:48 pilot in a 1:72 F-16...
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: lancer on January 13, 2012, 02:53:07 pm
Just an idea: no promises that I'll do anything further about it myself.

Civilianized military aircraft.

Everybody is putting "wrong" military color schemes or insignia on military aircraft. What if... you took a military aircraft and made it into your private civilian sports transport. Maybe the "real" aircraft is larger than what you really want? Make it smaller, as long as you will fit inside. There might be room for a 1:48 pilot in a 1:72 F-16...

Already got a plans for one of these. I think I'll add it to this years build list. It IS a good idea though.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Caveman on January 27, 2015, 12:15:32 pm
Based on recent comments and threads, how about an F5/20 themed build?  Make anything you like from an f5/20?
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: Librarian on March 16, 2015, 11:55:17 am
This is more UK only (I'm not sure if this runs elsewhere) but how about, in about 48 weeks time, a red-nose charity kitbash. Maybe get some sponsorship going, and then an auction off on Ebay etc to raise further funds. Think of all the red-nose Tornados, Tomcats etc ;D
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 16, 2015, 02:01:19 pm
BA painted one of their 757s with a MASSIVE red nose one year, that'd be worth modelling.
Title: Re: Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 16, 2015, 02:28:01 pm
April marks the 75th anniversary of the start of operations by BOAC, the British Overseas Airways Corporation. There's a Hugh and varied range of aircraft to choose from, plus a few extra that would look great in the logo up until 31st March 1974 when BOAC and BEA were dissolved.