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Title: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on October 12, 2017, 05:09:25 am
The IPMS(UK) host its annual show Scale Model World again on the 10th & 11th of November at the Telford International Centre, Telford, Shropshire, UK.

http://ipmsuk.org/ipms-scale-modelworld/ (http://ipmsuk.org/ipms-scale-modelworld/)

The What IF SIG and Project Cancelled SIG will again both be displaying at the show, although we are still awaiting confirmation of which Hall and the location within that Hall.

Again there are strict rules on access due to the public liability insurance which limits access during the setup period, so if turning up as a member of the SIG during the set-up period without a valid wristband you will be unable to access the hall until it opens to the IPMS members at 9:00 am or general public at 10:00am. Please arrange in advance with one of the SIG set up crew to arrange a meet up in the car park to collect models for the stands if necessary. (Even with strict access controls outside the show open hours, there are hundreds of people in the halls, setting up, club, sig or traders stands, plus IPMS marshal's and centre staff doing the final touches along with a restricted number cars, vans or even light trucks for traders).

So a chance for the regulars to meet up and reacquaint themselves and for new people and forum members to introduce themselves, lots to see, lots to talk about and unfortunately lots to buy !!, so bring money, a welcome smile and comfy shoes as it can involve a lot of walking to get around the hall and see everything. Weather can also vary, we have had it bitterly cold and frozen, blowing a blizzard or a storm, still wet and grey, thick fog or even warm and sunny, so be prepared as being Britain all of those can actually effect us over the same day let alone weekend !!!

Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on October 12, 2017, 05:15:25 am
Think you mean:

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so if turning up as a member of the SIG during the set-up period without a valid wristband you will be UNABLE to access the hall until it opens to the IPMS members at 9:00 am or general public at 10:00am.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on October 12, 2017, 03:25:32 pm
I'll be there on the Friday as part of the set up crew for IPMS Tyneside.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on October 12, 2017, 06:20:25 pm
Cheers Geoff, saves me a job posting that little lot up.  :thumbsup:

The what if sig? set up crew this year is as follows
Me (Martin Higgs)
Chris Edwards
Nick Pedley
Mike McEvoy.

The two model per sig member guideline will be in play. Althou there is nothing to stop any one swapping there models dureing the show to get more models in public view. If numbers are down or there is enought room on the tables, I may be able to relax the guideline.

The breaking news for the sig is that I am hoping to have a new display stand in time for the show.
 
IPMS Coventy & Warwickshire are replacing their current display stand rig with a new and for their needs better stand. I have offered to buy their old stand. It isnt cheap, and it will get a decent refurb before they hand it over. Once it is in my possion, it will remain my personal property but there for the SIG to use. This is all dependant on wether Cov & warks get their new stand in time for the Nationals, as they are running a little behind shedule with the construction of their new rig.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Howard of Effingham on October 12, 2017, 10:38:20 pm
there as set up crew along with Richard B [of the What-if SIG] as part of the South Atlantic SIG, btw.

my main model for 2017 will be a wiffed [cancelled serial number though] RAF Victor B2. overhaul and refurb' being worked on.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: JayBee on October 21, 2017, 09:27:06 am
Floor plan for SMW 20o17 is now out and can be found on  the IPMS UK web site.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Hobbes on October 21, 2017, 11:54:39 am
So we're in Hall 3 facing the garage doors again.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 21, 2017, 01:07:40 pm

So we're in Hall 3 facing the garage doors again.


Have they got a monster tank to get in through there again this year? If so I'm glad I WON'T be there on Friday!
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on October 22, 2017, 01:16:17 am
Quite near the Overseas's Section again, good  :thumbsup: They are a fun bunch of ladies and gents. Eduard on one side and Special Hobby on the other ??? Won't have to walk far  ;)
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on October 22, 2017, 02:12:19 am
That's not necessarily a good thing - Eduard are trying and could well bankrupt me!  Depending on what Spitfire overtrees they have this year...
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Nick on October 22, 2017, 02:44:45 am
Quite near the Overseas's Section again, good  :thumbsup: They are a fun bunch of ladies and gents.

Shall we try and outdo them on the hospitality this year? Who's bringing the coat rack?  :wacko:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Gondor on October 22, 2017, 03:13:57 am
Quite near the Overseas's Section again, good  :thumbsup: They are a fun bunch of ladies and gents.

Shall we try and outdo them on the hospitality this year? Who's bringing the coat rack?  :wacko:

I intend to bring some fortified fruit cake with me and some non-fortified cake for those under 18 and driving  ;D

Gondor
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: kitbasher on October 22, 2017, 04:18:03 am
Sadly chaps a work commitment means I can't make it this year, which is a bummer as I've not been to a show this year and I always look forward to catching up with folk.

And the AZ SR53 will have to wait.

I'm sure all will have a great time, and the SIG display will be excellent.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on October 22, 2017, 06:46:17 am
Quite near the Overseas's Section again, good  :thumbsup: They are a fun bunch of ladies and gents. Eduard on one side and Special Hobby on the other ??? Won't have to walk far  ;)

Yes but on the overhand it does make touring the two main halls that much harder instead, and then there's the loading and unloading as getting to that garage door in the car on a Friday and even more so on a Sunday is a right pain at times and the alternative is out the main doors and up those steps or out through 2 and 1 and through the car parks round to the master car park !.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 22, 2017, 06:52:29 am

Sadly chaps a work commitment means I can't make it this year, which is a bummer as I've not been to a show this year and I always look forward to catching up with folk.

And the AZ SR53 will have to wait.

I'm sure all will have a great time, and the SIG display will be excellent.


That's a big pain Dave, you'll be missed, as well as your exotic creations.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on October 22, 2017, 09:36:06 am

Sadly chaps a work commitment means I can't make it this year, which is a bummer as I've not been to a show this year and I always look forward to catching up with folk.

And the AZ SR53 will have to wait.

I'm sure all will have a great time, and the SIG display will be excellent.


That's a big pain Dave, you'll be missed, as well as your exotic creations.
To right! You will be missed Dave.

On a similar note. Althou Jim wont be at the show, some of his most recent builds will be. They are currently in my care.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on October 23, 2017, 06:52:03 am
Shame your'e going to miss it Dave. We'll have to catch up at Victoria or similar, post Xmas
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on October 23, 2017, 10:47:10 pm
http://ipmsuk.org/ipms-scale-modelworld/scale-modelworld-floor-plan/ (http://ipmsuk.org/ipms-scale-modelworld/scale-modelworld-floor-plan/)

The floor plans and whose where for the Halls at SMW.

Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on October 24, 2017, 02:41:47 am
Hmmn.  Tyneside's not far from Collectakit...

And the SIG's location means free scran from the overseas clubs.  However, Eduard are on the same island as us.  My wallet isn't going to like that.  not at all.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 02, 2017, 08:15:09 am
O.K. I may have missed this, I have looked at the I.P.M.S. site, but where is registration for the set up crew on Friday afternoon ? I should be there about 3pm or there about's by the way
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on November 02, 2017, 12:26:10 pm
O.K. I may have missed this, I have looked at the I.P.M.S. site, but where is registration for the set up crew on Friday afternoon ? I should be there about 3pm or there about's by the way
It will be located at the back on the concourse between hall 1 and the Ludlow suite (were the kit swap is). Access will be via the glass doors at the back. (to the left of the main roller shutter door into hall 1) the front doors wont be in use for Friday.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Mossie on November 02, 2017, 02:41:08 pm
Won't be there this year, unfortunately the missus has to work the weekend so someone has to look after the kids.  Have fun all!
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Howard of Effingham on November 02, 2017, 08:11:37 pm
Won't be there this year, unfortunately the missus has to work the weekend so someone has to look after the kids.  Have fun all!

oh! b*gger! will PM you with my news Mossie. :) also see the most recent pages on my blog hereabouts. hope all is well for you and yours, friend. :)
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Hobbes on November 03, 2017, 12:31:03 am
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the front doors wont be in use for Friday.

Opening the front doors would make the parking situation a whole lot easier. The parking lot at the back is crammed, esp. for hall 3 there are huge queues. The one at the front is almost empty on the Friday.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 03, 2017, 01:34:51 am
It's also a long walk from the rear car park to the rear of hall 3 if you have to go through the roller shutters and cross halls 1 & 2 as trying to unload at Hall 3 is a pain with its very limited parking.

We are also facing the roller shutters which means they are likely to be open so it will be cold for the set up crew as they set up the stand.

Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 03, 2017, 01:39:15 am
Given the restrictions and access to the Halls during setup times on Friday and Saturday morning, it might be an idea for those who are displaying who are not on the set up crew and are looking to arrive during the set up times to contact the SIG leader via PM so you can exchange mobile numbers and arrange meeting up in the car park to collect models to transport into the hall if you can't bring them in when the IPMS entrance opens on Saturday at 9:00am
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 03, 2017, 07:31:30 am
Thanks Martin.

Won't be there this year, unfortunately the missus has to work the weekend so someone has to look after the kids.  Have fun all!

Ah that's a shame mate
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 03, 2017, 08:02:55 am
Just printed the hall plans off and marked where/who I want. Just need to get my orientation sorted now, don't laugh I was 180 degrees out last year  :banghead: ;D

I assume both AZ and RS are sharing with someone else like last year (not the same trader for both) as I can't find them on the IPMS list of traders. Anyone know who they are sharing with ?

Ta in advance

Chris
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Radish on November 05, 2017, 09:45:01 am
I will be there manning 3 SIGs. I have telescopic arms, lazer eyes, a roar to frighten yound and old, a ray gun and axe. I also have my minder to control me. I have no shopping list but may buy a 1/35 Sherman tank for an idea I have.
I have mostly now finished "construction" so what's not built now will await calmer times. I have paint/drybrushing and a few decals to complete.
Tomorrow will be priming one model.....an armed VW Beetle belonging to a Snatch Squad of either Anarchists or Police, or .....whoever!!
Tuesday and Wednesday will be painting and decaling.
Sorting and some packing Monday, completed on Wednesday.
Thursday "relax" with a walk around the National Arboretum.....
Arrive to set up Friday evening....I have 30 ft to fill. :banghead:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 05, 2017, 12:42:20 pm
I will be there manning 3 SIGs. I have telescopic arms, lazer eyes, a roar to frighten yound and old, a ray gun and axe. I also have my minder to control me. I have no shopping list but may buy a 1/35 Sherman tank for an idea I have.
I have mostly now finished "construction" so what's not built now will await calmer times. I have paint/drybrushing and a few decals to complete.
Tomorrow will be priming one model.....an armed VW Beetle belonging to a Snatch Squad of either Anarchists or Police, or .....whoever!!
Tuesday and Wednesday will be painting and decaling.
Sorting and some packing Monday, completed on Wednesday.
Thursday "relax" with a walk around the National Arboretum.....
Arrive to set up Friday evening....I have 30 ft to fill. :banghead:

I was wondering about that when I saw the plan Terry and then for some reason thought of the Movie 'Split' and wondered if you switched personality between each stand  :o.....

Any good luck with prep work and see you there
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Mossie on November 05, 2017, 01:06:22 pm
oh! b*gger! will PM you with my news Mossie. :) also see the most recent pages on my blog hereabouts. hope all is well for you and yours, friend. :)

Won't be there this year, unfortunately the missus has to work the weekend so someone has to look after the kids.  Have fun all!

Ah that's a shame mate

Cheers guys.  Should be in Huddersfield. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2017, 02:43:04 am
Has a decision been made as to which night we are going for the traditional Chinese stuff-your-face?  ;D
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on November 06, 2017, 02:51:04 am
I shall be eating at the Ramna Balti House in Shrewsbury both evenings.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on November 06, 2017, 03:42:50 am
Has a decision been made as to which night we are going for the traditional Chinese stuff-your-face?  ;D

have alook here Nick (http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,44474.0.html)  ;)

Im thinking the Chinese for the Friday evening. leaving Saturday for us to head up to the new entertainment/food zone near the TIC
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 06, 2017, 04:37:05 am
Has a decision been made as to which night we are going for the traditional Chinese stuff-your-face?  ;D

have alook here Nick (http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,44474.0.html)  ;)

Im thinking the Chinese for the Friday evening. leaving Saturday for us to head up to the new entertainment/food zone near the TIC

It might be more tricky to organise a Friday gathering as it depends on whose there and when, I know we are scattered across the town now for accommodation, and only a few will be actually in the hall on Friday as they are the only ones with exhibitor access for stand set up, others will be travelling and some may not be down till the Saturday.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 06, 2017, 04:52:37 am
http://ipmsuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Scale-ModelWorld-2017-Branch-and-SIG-Leaders-Briefing-V1.pdf

Some notes for SIG members regarding access - note only set up crew are allowed in on Friday setup and Saturday and Sunday morning via the roller shutter doors. None Set up IPMS members will be allowed in from 9:00 am at the members entrance. The set-up passes are actually Exhibitor passes from what I can gather from discussions on the IPMS Facebook page and are intended for use all weekend by that member so they are non-transferable once assigned.

Therefore those wishing to get their models in via the roller shutter door at Hall 1 before 08:45am on Saturday or during Friday Setup need to arrange contact with Martin and his crew so they can meet you in the car park and transfer the models to the stand.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 06, 2017, 05:21:08 am
I'll just walk mine in at 9am on Saturday (I'm an IPMS member now).
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 06, 2017, 06:17:17 am
The set-up passes are actually Exhibitor passes from what I can gather from discussions on the IPMS Facebook page and are intended for use all weekend by that member so they are non-transferable once assigned.



Yup, they are the entry wristbands so can't be passed on
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 06, 2017, 07:10:02 am

I'll just walk mine in at 9am on Saturday (I'm an IPMS member now).


Ditto me, after having sat in the car in the car park since 0730 to ensure I don't have to walk from Shrewsbury carrying two BIG models..........
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: seadude on November 06, 2017, 10:38:19 am
I won't be going as I'm "across the pond" as you gents say, and I'll be going to the IPMS Butch O'Hare Model Show in Chicago, Illinois this coming Saturday. The UK is way too far for me to travel to.
I've always been curious about something though: How does Scale Modelworld compare to the IPMS National Convention here in the U.S.? Is the show in Telford really that big as claimed? Is it that much better than the National Convention?
And also, does SMW have an official Facebook page?
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 06, 2017, 11:18:11 am
SMW makes the US National Convention look like local beanfeast, it really IS that big!

It's different in character to a US Convention too, while there is a Competition, with loads of clases, the main emphasis is on displays by IPMS Branches and SIGs, with a lot more traders than you get at a US Convention.

Dunno about an FB page, I don't do that myself.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Gondor on November 06, 2017, 11:19:06 am
I won't be going as I'm "across the pond" as you gents say, and I'll be going to the IPMS Butch O'Hare Model Show in Chicago, Illinois this coming Saturday. The UK is way too far for me to travel to.
I've always been curious about something though: How does Scale Modelworld compare to the IPMS National Convention here in the U.S.? Is the show in Telford really that big as claimed? Is it that much better than the National Convention?
And also, does SMW have an official Facebook page?

No idea about a Facebook page but here is a link to the IPMS web site with it's drop-down menu with all you want to know about the event. http://ipmsuk.org/

Please take on board the fact that although the rectangles don't look very large, most of them are two standard tables deep by one wide. Some of the traders, in red, have several single tables next to each other so are thinner.

And yes it's BIG  ;D

Gondor
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 06, 2017, 11:49:34 am
I won't be going as I'm "across the pond" as you gents say, and I'll be going to the IPMS Butch O'Hare Model Show in Chicago, Illinois this coming Saturday. The UK is way too far for me to travel to.
I've always been curious about something though: How does Scale Modelworld compare to the IPMS National Convention here in the U.S.? Is the show in Telford really that big as claimed? Is it that much better than the National Convention?
And also, does SMW have an official Facebook page?

You need to ask PhilP Scooterman or Dork, people who have done both so they can put it into context.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 06, 2017, 11:53:32 am
I've done both too, but my last US Convention was in the late 90s sometime.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Hobbes on November 06, 2017, 12:13:08 pm
Well, I'm almost ready to set off. Decided at the last minute to do some airbrushing today so I can at least bring something. Only 2 new models this year, both for the What-if table, none for Project Cancelled, thanks to a loss of mojo (first 6 months this year) and lack of time (the 2 months after my summer vacation, just when I'd started work on a nice new project). 
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2017, 02:43:41 pm
I'm thinking of clearing out my half-finished kits, the ones that have sat for years when I lost the will to complete them with paint. Is anyone interested if I bring them to SMW Telford?
They won't go in the Kitswap but be strictly behind our stand for our eyes only. Might also have some bagged kits very cheap.

Not got a complete list yet but includes these in the one true scale, 1/72

Alpha Jets
Fouga Magister
DH Vampire
Frog Jaguar
Airfix EE Lightning
AMT Kamov Hokum
JB Landrover Ambulance

Testors/Hawk 1931 Supermarine S.6B 1/48
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on November 06, 2017, 04:20:33 pm
I'm sure I can find a home for the Vampire and the Lightning.  And any Spitfires too.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Radish on November 06, 2017, 11:45:15 pm
YEAH!!
It'll be a bostin weekend of fun, chaos, laughs, more chaos...off now to paint my Anarchy boots. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 07, 2017, 06:21:37 am
Is the show in Telford really that big as claimed? Is it that much better than the National Convention?


In terms of floor area SMW is approximately 3 to 4 times as large as the US National Convention.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 08, 2017, 06:06:52 am
Right lads just a warning that for various reasons I may not be humping my camera with me this year, so don't rely on me for the pics.

I might bring it but apologies in advance if I don't.

Chris
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 08, 2017, 07:05:27 am
I'll have mine with me, and spare batteries too.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 08, 2017, 03:25:33 pm
Just a note for those on Friday setup, the location of the SIGs in Hall3 is opposite the roller shutter door again, however with more traders and no real world exhibits that door will be open and used for vehicle access and egress so after discussion with the IPMS on their FB page they have suggested a 5-6pm set up window rather than pitch up at 3pm as the tables may not be able to be set up till later in the afternoon. Thankfully we do have Eduard on one end and another set of Traders at the other so once those are setup our tables are then pretty much secure.

However given past experience aim toward the later time to avoid standing around and getting cold because we can't set up yet
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Nick on November 08, 2017, 03:52:57 pm
Thanks for that Geoff. Gives me more time to travel there. I could always help at the London stand if I arrive too early for us to set up What If table.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on November 08, 2017, 04:22:13 pm
No doubt I'b be strip mining Collectakit on the Friday, so that'll help pass some time...
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 09, 2017, 06:21:45 am
It's quite noticeable how the number of posts has decreased since last weekend as Telford looms over the horizon.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 09, 2017, 06:25:40 am
Just a note for those on Friday setup, the location of the SIGs in Hall3 is opposite the roller shutter door again, however with more traders and no real world exhibits that door will be open and used for vehicle access and egress so after discussion with the IPMS on their FB page they have suggested a 5-6pm set up window rather than pitch up at 3pm as the tables may not be able to be set up till later in the afternoon. Thankfully we do have Eduard on one end and another set of Traders at the other so once those are setup our tables are then pretty much secure.



That's really screwed me  :banghead: As my train ticket doesn't allow flexibility, makes it by far the cheapest option, I'll probably grab a cab to the hotel near Donnington, check in, grab a spot of lunch and then get a cab back latter. All good fun  :-\
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 09, 2017, 06:26:16 am
I'll have mine with me, and spare batteries too.

Cheers Kit  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Ed S on November 09, 2017, 12:56:10 pm
For those of you who remember me, I will be at Telford this weekend. I know I haven't been as active in the group or as prolific at modeling this past year, but there have been some real world issues. I have been in contact with Allan (Dork, the kitslayer) after seeing him at the US conventions the last couple years. I look forward to a chance to say hello and meet those who are there.

If you see Santa Claus (Father Christmas) with a strange accent, stop and say hello.

Ed S
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 09, 2017, 01:09:55 pm
That'll be great Ed, glad you can come over again.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Geoff on November 09, 2017, 03:28:20 pm
I'm thinking of clearing out my half-finished kits, the ones that have sat for years when I lost the will to complete them with paint. Is anyone interested if I bring them to SMW Telford?
They won't go in the Kitswap but be strictly behind our stand for our eyes only. Might also have some bagged kits very cheap.

Not got a complete list yet but includes these in the one true scale, 1/72

Alpha Jets
Fouga Magister
DH Vampire
Frog Jaguar
Airfix EE Lightning
AMT Kamov Hokum
JB Landrover Ambulance

Testors/Hawk 1931 Supermarine S.6B 1/48

I am interested in the Alpha jets
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on November 10, 2017, 02:21:30 am
For those of you who remember me, I will be at Telford this weekend. I know I haven't been as active in the group or as prolific at modeling this past year, but there have been some real world issues. I have been in contact with Allan (Dork, the kitslayer) after seeing him at the US conventions the last couple years. I look forward to a chance to say hello and meet those who are there.

If you see Santa Claus (Father Christmas) with a strange accent, stop and say hello.

Ed S

Like wise Ed. Stop by the stand and join in the "fun"
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 10, 2017, 04:59:06 am
Just a note for those on Friday setup, the location of the SIGs in Hall3 is opposite the roller shutter door again, however with more traders and no real world exhibits that door will be open and used for vehicle access and egress so after discussion with the IPMS on their FB page they have suggested a 5-6pm set up window rather than pitch up at 3pm as the tables may not be able to be set up till later in the afternoon. Thankfully we do have Eduard on one end and another set of Traders at the other so once those are setup our tables are then pretty much secure.



That's really screwed me  :banghead: As my train ticket doesn't allow flexibility, makes it by far the cheapest option, I'll probably grab a cab to the hotel near Donnington, check in, grab a spot of lunch and then get a cab back latter. All good fun  :-\

Chris, I'm not there on the Friday, but I'll be down Saturday morning (early), going home that night at chucking out time, coming back on Sunday and going home again. If you need a lift to somewhere local on the Saturday or Sunday night I'd be happy to oblige.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: JayBee on November 10, 2017, 08:48:38 am
Oh well.
The time has come the time is now, and if everything had been OK I would have been within an hour of Telford right now.
How ever it was not to be.
So I will just wish you all a great weekend, just try and not get too bankrupt  :rolleyes:.

Jim
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Gondor on November 10, 2017, 11:09:05 am
Oh well.
The time has come the time is now, and if everything had been OK I would have been within an hour of Telford right now.
How ever it was not to be.
So I will just wish you all a great weekend, just try and not get too bankrupt  :rolleyes:.

Jim

Been here for several hours and enjoying the room. Be glad you didn't come Jim, its about as far away from the lift and stairs as it could be, in fact almost as far as it is to the Show!

Gondor
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on November 10, 2017, 11:48:35 am
just try and not get too bankrupt  :rolleyes:.

Jim

Far to late for that now Jim......................

Your presance will be sorely missed mate.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: JayBee on November 10, 2017, 01:58:28 pm
just try and not get too bankrupt  :rolleyes:.

Jim

Far to late for that now Jim......................


Ah! Ops Normal.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 10, 2017, 03:55:48 pm
Just about to get my head down for five hours of sleep and (I think I'm just in time to say) I'll see you all tomorrow! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: kitbasher on November 10, 2017, 11:34:17 pm
Basically what Jiim said earlier.  Y'all have great weekend, post pics, share the goss (scandal, rumour, stash increases, etc, even mention new or planned releases) and enjoy!
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Rheged on November 11, 2017, 12:25:45 am
Basically what Jiim said earlier.  Y'all have great weekend, post pics, share the goss (scandal, rumour, stash increases, etc, even mention new or planned releases) and enjoy!

The same good wishes from me too, in deepest darkest (and currently dank and damp) Herefordshire
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Mossie on November 11, 2017, 12:39:02 am
And from me, I guess it's all kicking off around now.  Enjoy. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Gondor on November 11, 2017, 12:45:23 pm
Having a great time, making new friends and meeting virtual friends from here in person. Sharing tall stories both old and new as well as a passing around ideas old and new and fruit cake too  :thumbsup:

Gondor
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 11, 2017, 02:47:29 pm
I took a whole bunch of pics at the show, 36 of them to be precise, and almost every one is over exposed and out of focus.  :banghead: I'll be able to rescue some of them, but I'll have to do some more tomorrow. Just as a taster here's an overall view of the WhatIf and Project Cancelled SIG stands.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/483/9BTPvM.jpg)
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 11, 2017, 03:49:59 pm
I managed to make something of some of the other pics, so here's a 'scan' of the Whiff SIG stand from left to right, followed by the Project Cancelled stand similarly.

WhatIff SIG

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Project Cancelled SIG

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Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: kitbasher on November 12, 2017, 12:39:29 am
As ever, a good looking display.  Thanks for the pics, Kit.  👍
Title: Missing from Telford
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 12, 2017, 12:55:31 pm
Around Saturday lunchtime I bought an S&M Models 1/72 Stalwart kit and had it with me on the stand until maybe mid afternoon. I put it down alongside my other stuff behind the stand and went wandering, as you do,

When I returned I couldn't find the Stalwart, and I waited until everyone else had gone that evening and inspected every nook and cranny underneath the stand, to no avail. Today I asked everyone if they'd seen it, without any joy, and when we started to pack up I was able to get under the stand tables myself to check. There was no sign of it.  :banghead: :banghead:

Now I know a Stalwart is an all terrain vehicle, but it was till in kit form so there was very little chance that it could have taken itself off anywhere so I must presume that someone else took it.

Please could you check all your plastic bags, model boxes etc. to see if you've picked it up by mistake. If it wasn't a mistake please post it back to me at the address below and no more need be said.

Kit Spackman
'The Point'
15 Stanford Rd
Lydney
Glos
GL1 5 5HR
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on November 12, 2017, 02:36:37 pm
Its been a great weekend :thumbsup: Altou I'm sure my bank manager would beg to differ............................It wont be long before I get the letter reminding me that the idea is that I bank with them, not the other way round  :wacko:

Its been good to see Brad again, don't hang around till your next trip over here big man!
Meeting Ed S and his dear lady wife was a pleasure. He really is Santa out of uniform! And one of the nicest guys you could wish to meet  :mellow:

The displays on both sig stands were very well received, What if? especially seemed to be getting more positive interest and comments than we normally attract, Our new display stands (formerly of IPMS Coventry & warwickshire) worked very well and added much to the over all display layout.

The only sour note has been the disappearance of the S&M Stalwart kit that I'm sure has been accidentally put in some one elses bag.
As Kit posted earlier, if you happen to discover it amounst your new additions. Contact Kit directly or Myself or either of the UK based forum admin team members (Geoff B & Chris E ) and we can arrange for it to be returned to its owner.

Roll on SMW2018. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 12, 2017, 03:09:29 pm
Well that was a spectacular success: nice to meet Brad, Ed and Alastair in particular, as Martin said. The new display stand was excellent, making a lot more space without being obtrusive in itself. :thumbsup:

I used the Kitswap for the first time and sold all but one of the kits I put in (and the last one went to Steel Penguin for a song just so I didn't have to take it home), which meant I had as much money in my wallet on the Sunday afternoon as I had on the Saturday morning: a condition that some members regarded as tantamount to heresy. That was speedily resolved, however.... :wacko:

I took a load of pics, which get posted er, not today.

Kit, I took all my purchases home on Saturday night, unpacked, listed and stowed them all, so I can say with certainty that I definitely havn't got your Stolly. I hope you find it.

For context, there were so many white, blue or Wonderland carrier bags under the stand with an SR.53, an MB.6 and misc other things in each that I nearly walked off with somebody else's bag myself, so I'm sure that's what's happened to the Stolly.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Gondor on November 13, 2017, 03:25:54 am
That was a wonderful show  :thumbsup:

I must say that I was not as awed as I was ten years ago when I was last at SMW. My girlfriend, Susan said she had a good time as well and everyone appeared to like the home made fruit cake that I brought along with me. Well what other kind of cake should I make for the SIG?

It was a pleasure to meet up with everyone, especially with Steel Penguin, Harro, Ed,  Mike and Kit who has supported my builds with his custom printing of decals for my ideas.

Gondor
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 13, 2017, 07:39:53 am
APPEAEED to like your cake Alastair? It was superb!  :thumbsup:

You have to come to every Telford from now on with more cake though.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 13, 2017, 07:41:38 am
More, and better pics coming later today, but I have the MOTHER of all colds right now. Telford and my state of health never seem to suit each other for some reason.  :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on November 13, 2017, 07:58:33 am
Great weekend. Good to see everyone again and looking forward to Bolton,Hudders and SMW 2018. It was especially good to meet up with Ed and Joanni
again and we will be seeing each other in Phoenix  (IPMS USA) in August. Good display lads give yer sen a big round of applause.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 13, 2017, 09:47:46 am
Here's the pics, LOTS of them! I loaded them in order as I took them left to right, but ImageShack in its wisdom has decided to shuffle the order about.   :banghead: :banghead:

I'll try and post them on here correctly, but don't hold your breath.

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(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/1893/KimXCo.jpg)

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Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Freightdog862 on November 13, 2017, 10:02:07 am
Great to see so many of you, and separating the money from your wallets was an added bonus to! Sorry I didn't have the Supermarine 327 on sale, but Mr McEvoy and an undisclosed Spitaholic did manage to leave the show with plain white boxes, and will no doubt start cutting resin soon. Hopefully the kit will be on sale shortly, and there is another post-war subject already mastered to follow in a couple of months, to coincide with my SR.53 boxing hopefully.

Colin   
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: TomZ on November 13, 2017, 10:15:02 am
Great pics Kit. More, more, more.......
Thanks for posting.


TomZ
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Gondor on November 13, 2017, 10:45:12 am
Here are my pictures from this years Telford, I only took pictures around our SIG display though

https://www.flickr.com/photos/48415782@N05/albums/72157689228208464

Gondor
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Steel Penguin on November 13, 2017, 11:01:50 am
Thanks to all for the great day.  :thumbsup:  I was able to turn up, hand round the minirolls, show the Conqueror, ( it even looks reasonable in the photos, guys thank you for taking such flattering shots of it!), enjoy some of the fruit cake, and the fruit and cherry cake,  talk some great stuff with all and sundry,  and think up an idea or 2.
I finished the day feeling better than I have in ages.
Glad to read that folks are getting home ok, and it was a pleasure to meet up with all of you.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on November 13, 2017, 12:16:58 pm
My weekend was rather overshadowed by the difficulties with accomodation but overall it was a highly enjoyable weekend and it was good to put faces to names.

I promise that next year, I'll come armed with some better booze too.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Rolead on November 13, 2017, 11:57:11 pm
Had a very enjoyable show and had a good chat with Kit whilst waiting for Joe Cherrie to come back to the stand.

Great display.

Robert
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 14, 2017, 12:41:32 am
A great weekend, the travel was not too bad either going or coming back. I would have preferred to have not had to work the morning of the show and set off from work in Salford as it made the Friday somewhat tiring. The fears of the delayed set up proved to be unfounded mostly due to the traders all getting in on their time slots and the only van was the Special Hobby one in the corner next to us, so the Roller shutter was able to be closed sometime after 5pm so we didn't freeze our nuts off in the cold draft.
Good to meet up and catch up with people as many I hadn't seen for a couple of years after missing last year and only doing the Saturday the year before, so nice to be back to a full weekend again. A shame we were scattered across town and in different groups, and that the traditional Chinese Buffet had gone in the Telford town Centre re-development, so we couldn't have out mass banquet, but the food we had in our smaller groups was good as those Mixed grills sure filled in a gap created by missing meals.
Probably spent more than I planned to but got some nice stuff and considering that was effectively my holiday for this year I can quite happily justify the spending and afford it. Didn't get round to doing the restock on tools and materials I planned, but that's something that's not to hard to do on-line or with LMS so no great loss.
Nice to see and discuss Cancelled Projects with some of the visitors although it does sort of emphasise that we should really plan better and include some form of labelling as explanation for next time.
Was good to discuss builds and formulate plans for the coming year with Martin, Harro, Chris and Joe so have an idea of what I can work on for the next 12 months, so much so that instead of running away screaming from the model room or giving it a good clear out, I instead actually started my next builds (and did a bit on one I had to put aside to get other finished for SMW), just a little too cold for Spraying until I swapped heaters out to counter act the window being ajar.

So its on to next year, no more shows till the end of January so plenty of time to get something built, the new Phantom which will require a bit of work is not due till December so that's probably going to be a Xmas build at best.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: zenrat on November 14, 2017, 01:39:55 am
...what other kind of cake should I make for the SIG?...

Nut cake?

Good pics everyone.  Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on November 14, 2017, 04:50:12 am
My stuff posted up   plasticnostalgia.blogspot.co.uk
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on November 14, 2017, 04:54:36 am
Ive posted my efforts up om my blog Kit. Please feel free to download any or all to supplement your  photo memories.

Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 14, 2017, 05:11:56 am
Some superb models in the competition there for sure, thanks for posting the pics.  :thumbsup:

A couple of things come to mind though.

1) It'd be nice to see the Senior Champion model that ISN'T a really large scale model one year. For many years now the winner has always been LARGE scale, and this year was no exception. It's just as much work building a well detailed small model as it is a large one, in some cases more so. Big isn't always better.

2) I noticed quite a few entries with 'Disqualified' notes stamped on their entry cards. With the current mind bogglingly complex system of classes it's not difficult to place a model in the wrong class, but is it beyond the wit of the Competition staff to just move such a model? This is a show about modelling, not weaving a path through complex regulations. One of the only classes not to have this problem is 'our' class, no 33.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 14, 2017, 05:49:28 am
A great weekend, the travel was not too bad either going or coming back. I would have preferred to have not had to work the morning of the show and set off from work in Salford as it made the Friday somewhat tiring. The fears of the delayed set up proved to be unfounded mostly due to the traders all getting in on their time slots and the only van was the Special Hobby one in the corner next to us, so the Roller shutter was able to be closed sometime after 5pm so we didn't freeze our nuts off in the cold draft.
Good to meet up and catch up with people as many I hadn't seen for a couple of years after missing last year and only doing the Saturday the year before, so nice to be back to a full weekend again. A shame we were scattered across town and in different groups, and that the traditional Chinese Buffet had gone in the Telford town Centre re-development, so we couldn't have out mass banquet, but the food we had in our smaller groups was good as those Mixed grills sure filled in a gap created by missing meals.
Probably spent more than I planned to but got some nice stuff and considering that was effectively my holiday for this year I can quite happily justify the spending and afford it. Didn't get round to doing the restock on tools and materials I planned, but that's something that's not to hard to do on-line or with LMS so no great loss.
Nice to see and discuss Cancelled Projects with some of the visitors although it does sort of emphasise that we should really plan better and include some form of labelling as explanation for next time.
Was good to discuss builds and formulate plans for the coming year with Martin, Harro, Chris and Joe so have an idea of what I can work on for the next 12 months, so much so that instead of running away screaming from the model room or giving it a good clear out, I instead actually started my next builds (and did a bit on one I had to put aside to get other finished for SMW), just a little too cold for Spraying until I swapped heaters out to counter act the window being ajar.

So its on to next year, no more shows till the end of January so plenty of time to get something built, the new Phantom which will require a bit of work is not due till December so that's probably going to be a Xmas build at best.

I've said for years that labelling is especially important for Whiffs. Everyone knows the back story of a USAF F-16, but most people will look at a whiff and not know whether it's a mistake, a joke, a cancelled project or the product of a thought-out alt-history story unless it's explained to them.

I know table space is an issue and to that end I've redesigned my cards to be one-per-model instead of two. Display bases with plaques would help too (especially if they combine several models from the same background with one expalanation) as would flying stands where the model is above the label rather than next to it.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: The Wooksta! on November 14, 2017, 06:04:41 am
The day my models are labelled will be the day I part company with the SIG.  I've said that for years.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Old Wombat on November 14, 2017, 06:12:17 am
Ive posted my efforts up om my blog Kit. Please feel free to download any or all to supplement your  photo memories.

Some great photo's there, mate! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 14, 2017, 06:22:36 am
The day my models are labelled will be the day I part company with the SIG.  I've said that for years.

I'm not proposing it be compulsory: I'm well aware of your stance on such matters. If you want informed observers to figure yours out for themselves, that's fine, and probably appropriate for the subtle kind of things you like. For stuff like mine and many others though, where it's as much a product of imagination as research, the punter hasn't got a snowball's of figuring it out for themselves no matter how much they know.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Howard of Effingham on November 14, 2017, 06:40:32 am
The day my models are labelled will be the day I part company with the SIG.  I've said that for years.

I'm not proposing it be compulsory: I'm well aware of your stance on such matters. If you want informed observers to figure yours out for themselves, that's fine, and probably appropriate for the subtle kind of things you like. For stuff like mine and many others though, where it's as much a product of imagination as research, the punter hasn't got a snowball's of figuring it out for themselves no matter how much they know.

quite but I agree a bit with Wooksta as I like to see the punter squirm when he or she is utterly had! :)
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 14, 2017, 07:08:40 am
Firstly it was nice to meet so many old friends and make some new ones, especially those who'd crossed the "pond". Great to see you Brad and Ed. Only sorry that Jim and Simon couldn't make it.

Secondly if I didn't get a chance to chat with people then I apologise but it was a very busy and tiring weekend. I swear when I tried to get my boots on this morning my ankles had swollen ?

Thirdly I think we may need a S.I.G. wine rack next year ?  :angel:

My journey up was a bit of a pig as the train broke down  :banghead: However in all fairness to Virgin (not my favourite brand) they have already paid me my compensation without the need to claim. Journey home yesterday was better although the train was very busy as far as Birmingham Int.

Show was very good and I'll have money I missed half of it ! Many thanks to those who took all the pictures  :thumbsup:

I did notice a couple of things. there appeared to be far more kids attending this year. A couple were very interested in Martin's Hanuebu's and one stunned both his dad and grandad when he told us he was getting one for Christmas.  ;D Ed S didn't know anything about it either  ;)

The other was the number of woman who were not necessarily just in tow so to speak, but actually taking an interest and asking questions. Not just us but all around the show. Has to be good for the future of the hobby, but it does make judging "best in show" more difficult  :angel:

The best result for me personally though ? For various reasons I've been feeling a bit down in the dumps (depressed is far to strong a word) for a couple of months recently, but I've been much cheery since Saturday and hopefully have shaken it off. So thanks lads it was a good show all round.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: JayBee on November 14, 2017, 09:37:26 am
The day my models are labelled will be the day I part company with the SIG.  I've said that for years.

I'm not proposing it be compulsory: I'm well aware of your stance on such matters. If you want informed observers to figure yours out for themselves, that's fine, and probably appropriate for the subtle kind of things you like. For stuff like mine and many others though, where it's as much a product of imagination as research, the punter hasn't got a snowball's of figuring it out for themselves no matter how much they know.


Well I like labeling the model along with a bit of the story about it. That is why my labels are printed A5 size, and in agood number of cases on both sides.
Telling the story can really screw with the viewers mind. Great fun!

quite but I agree a bit with Wooksta as I like to see the punter squirm when he or she is utterly had! :)
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Martin H on November 14, 2017, 11:34:38 am
We have had the labelling debate a number of times over the years. And as Ive said before, its each to their own.

If you want to label your builds. Fine, fill your boots and have fun. The same goes for those who dont want to label their work.

We are as broad a church as you can get, we have room for almost every view point.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: rickshaw on November 14, 2017, 09:27:13 pm
My stuff posted up   plasticnostalgia.blogspot.co.uk

Nice photos there.  I was particularly taken with the Vickers Wellesley.  What scale was it?
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Thorvic on November 15, 2017, 12:09:10 am
I was talking about our Project Cancelled SIG where I felt we probably needed a label to explain the various sub themes so browsers could understand the concept.

Individual model labelling is not worth the risk with the fuller tables to be honest unless you number the models on the layout and provide a separate list as visitors will try to lean over the display to read the label and often forget their camera, lanyard or clothing swinging below them catch other models....
It probably works with much fewer but larger models where you can use a larger font and put an explanation next to the model.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: zenrat on November 15, 2017, 12:31:50 am
Those who wished to could leave brief notes on their build behind the table so whoever was manning it could consult them to answer questions.

...1) It'd be nice to see the Senior Champion model that ISN'T a really large scale model one year. For many years now the winner has always been LARGE scale, and this year was no exception. It's just as much work building a well detailed small model as it is a large one, in some cases more so. Big isn't always better...

How is this picked?  I ask because i've noticed whenever visitors get to vote on something like best of show then it is inevitably the biggest shiniest thing there that gets the choccies.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 15, 2017, 04:30:41 am
Enjoying the pictures!!!!   :wub: :wub: :wub:


One of these days after I hit the lotto I'll attend.  :mellow:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 15, 2017, 05:29:06 am
My pics are now up here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/156465715@N04/

Note that in some cases I've photographed the info card separately, so look for the next or previous pic for more info.

Sorry I havn't got time to clean them up, turn them around etc..., but I will be putting a selection up on this thread, so if you have any requests, please speak up.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 15, 2017, 05:52:36 am
I was talking about our Project Cancelled SIG where I felt we probably needed a label to explain the various sub themes so browsers could understand the concept.

Individual model labelling is not worth the risk with the fuller tables to be honest unless you number the models on the layout and provide a separate list as visitors will try to lean over the display to read the label and often forget their camera, lanyard or clothing swinging below them catch other models....
It probably works with much fewer but larger models where you can use a larger font and put an explanation next to the model.

That's an interesting thought: you could have stand-up numbers next to the models so that the visitor doesn't have to lean over to see the numbers, and then numbered cards at the front of the table. The only problem might be that, unless you coordinated it in advance, different modellers would use the same number, leading to confusion as to which card related to which model. Probably the best solution there would be to say that you use your initials as a prefix, i.e. HWS-1, HWS-2 etc...
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 15, 2017, 06:33:27 am
The only problem might be that, unless you coordinated it in advance, different modellers would use the same number, leading to confusion as to which card related to which model. Probably the best solution there would be to say that you use your initials as a prefix, i.e. HWS-1, HWS-2 etc...

Yup. Something like that, and it's great when it works, can only really be organised when you have quite small clubs or S.I.G.s who are well disciplined and are in complete agreement about what they are doing a long time in advance.

For a S.I.G. like ourselves with a huge (by IPMS standards) membership, many of whom really only get together once a year, it would be impossible. I personally like the freedom to display basically what you want that Martin promotes  :thumbsup:  The 2 model rule works because the need for it is understood, try and get anything else past our bunch of anarchists ???  ;) ;D

Now if I was a member of a small group who wanted a disciplined display then I'd be quite capable of fitting in with that. Horses for courses is my motto  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 15, 2017, 08:11:29 am
What's this 'disciplined' of which you talk?  :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Rheged on November 15, 2017, 11:46:44 am
DANGER,  WILD   PHILOSOPHICAL THOUGHTS ON THE  LOOSE.



We can all claim to be self disciplined, but I would doubt that any of us could be considered amenable to any sort of externally applied discipline or control.

As an example, consider how rarely a moderator has to put on their tin hat, pick up their cattle prod and break up fights between members...........that's self discipline.

On the other hand, look at the soaring flights of fancy and iconoclastic work of members.....that's rejecting  external norms and imposed discipline

END OF DEEP PHILOSOPHICAL THOUGHT FOR TODAY.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: KiwiZac on November 15, 2017, 02:11:17 pm
...1) It'd be nice to see the Senior Champion model that ISN'T a really large scale model one year. For many years now the winner has always been LARGE scale, and this year was no exception. It's just as much work building a well detailed small model as it is a large one, in some cases more so. Big isn't always better...
How is this picked?  I ask because i've noticed whenever visitors get to vote on something like best of show then it is inevitably the biggest shiniest thing there that gets the choccies.
I need to say something about this, but only for this year's show as I've not paid attention too closely before. Peter's Spitfire is an incredible piece of scale modelling and it's a shame that not everyone got to see exactly how much work went into it - I imagine if you've not followed the work-in-progress reports (http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=61418&page=1) on Large Scale Planes it just looks like a big shiny kit (how many 1/18 Spitfire XIV kits are you aware of, by the way?). It's shiny because he skinned it in metal and scratchbuilt more stuff than I can name. I doubt I'll ever get to see it in person but the photos online are amazing and the work (there was a LOT of time and effort put in) and detail that went into it is staggering. How anyone can essentially shame someone else's model because it's large and shiny boggles my mind and, to be honest, upsets me: I didn't expect his model to be here at all or welcomed/praised because it's a real-world subject, but I certainly didn't expect it to be written off as it has been.

I guess I expected fellow modellers to admire his work not grumble about winning well-deserved accolades. Perhaps if I entered models in competition I'd be upset but I feel nothing but admiration and inspiration looking at Race #80. I don't think I can say much else as for some reason this has me very upset.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 15, 2017, 02:39:20 pm
I wasn't lambasting that Spitfire itself, I was complaining that smaller models in general never get a look in for major class winners.

There are some superb 1/72 scale models produced for the IPMS Competition each year and they never have a hope of getting  more than a class win. THAT'S the point I was trying to make.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: zenrat on November 15, 2017, 07:32:26 pm
And I had no idea what had won.  I was asking a question and making an observation.
I've seen it many times at shows.  When the general public and visitors (rather than the exhibitors and entrants) get to vote then they go for big and shiny with no regard for quality.
Now this may be because those with the knowledge of what went into individual models tend to vote for their specific area of interest (car modellers are particularly insular) meaning that the educated votes are diluted and the "ooh shiny" Homer Simpson votes win the day.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 16, 2017, 12:37:17 am
At SMW the public, of any kind, don't vote at all, it's all in the hands of the Judges, who are appointed by the Competition Committee IIRC.

I've had few turns at this onerous task, albeit MANY years ago, and it's no fun if you're paired with someone who's done it before. You always get overridden on a decision, on the grounds that '........I've had lots of experience......' etc. Just one reason why I tend not to 'do competitions' any more.
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 16, 2017, 02:47:56 am

I've had few turns at this onerous task, albeit MANY years ago, and it's no fun if you're paired with someone who's done it before. You always get overridden on a decision, on the grounds that '........I've had lots of experience......' etc. Just one reason why I tend not to 'do competitions' any more.

I got "volunteered" to judge at MK a few years ago. Only the junior class, but never again. One of my fellow judges got his magnifying glass out !
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 16, 2017, 03:25:47 am
I can remember you coming back to the SIG stand after that Chris.

'Muttering Darkly' would have described your mood exactly.  ;D
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: NARSES2 on November 16, 2017, 05:52:47 am
I can remember you coming back to the SIG stand after that Chris.

'Muttering Darkly' would have described your mood exactly.  ;D

True Kit. I think it was the fact that the judges were locked into the competition room until the final class had been judged ! I almost rang my lawyer to sort out a writ of Habeus Corpus.  ;)
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Old Wombat on November 16, 2017, 08:13:41 am
The SAPMA Expo here in Adelaide has Technical Judging Awards (by a loose panel of modellers), Entrants Choice Awards (by those who've entered builds in the technical comp.) AND Peoples Choice Awards.

Seems to work well, gives the punters a reason to look & think about the models on display - & sometimes they don't pick the big shiny builds.


One of these days after I hit the lotto I'll attend.  :mellow:

You & me both, Brother! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: seadude on November 16, 2017, 10:10:12 am
If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 16, 2017, 11:18:13 am

If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o


That it would!  :o

You may need a hi-lift forklift to get it upstairs to the competition gallery though.  ;D
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: seadude on November 16, 2017, 12:10:40 pm

If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o


That it would!  :o

You may need a hi-lift forklift to get it upstairs to the competition gallery though.  ;D

I might also need a very large walk in freezer to help keep it cold.  ;D
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: rickshaw on November 16, 2017, 08:46:09 pm

If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o


That it would!  :o

You may need a hi-lift forklift to get it upstairs to the competition gallery though.  ;D

So, my 1:1 scale Matilda Frog which I have in the Garage downunder might have a few problems getting into the competition gallery, then?   :wacko:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 16, 2017, 11:59:00 pm

If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o


That it would!  :o

You may need a hi-lift forklift to get it upstairs to the competition gallery though.  ;D

So, my 1:1 scale Matilda Frog which I have in the Garage downunder might have a few problems getting into the competition gallery, then?   :wacko:


Just a bit, yes.  ;D

Maybe they'd give you special dispensation to display it downstairs though, as a couple of years ago we had a full size tank in Hall 3, and it drove in under its own power!  :o
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: rickshaw on November 17, 2017, 12:29:57 am

If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o


That it would!  :o

You may need a hi-lift forklift to get it upstairs to the competition gallery though.  ;D

So, my 1:1 scale Matilda Frog which I have in the Garage downunder might have a few problems getting into the competition gallery, then?   :wacko:


Just a bit, yes.  ;D

Maybe they'd give you special dispensation to display it downstairs though, as a couple of years ago we had a full size tank in Hall 3, and it drove in under its own power!  :o

Right-ho!  I'll book passage on the next freighter to the UK, shall I?  Can I park it at your place once it arrives?   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 17, 2017, 12:47:41 am

If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o


That it would!  :o

You may need a hi-lift forklift to get it upstairs to the competition gallery though.  ;D

So, my 1:1 scale Matilda Frog which I have in the Garage downunder might have a few problems getting into the competition gallery, then?   :wacko:


Just a bit, yes.  ;D

Maybe they'd give you special dispensation to display it downstairs though, as a couple of years ago we had a full size tank in Hall 3, and it drove in under its own power!  :o

Right-ho!  I'll book passage on the next freighter to the UK, shall I?  Can I park it at your place once it arrives?   :thumbsup:


The mind BOGGLES at the effect 1:1 scale Matilda would have on Lydney!  :o
Title: Re: IPMS(UK) Scale Model World 2017 - 11/12 November
Post by: Weaver on November 17, 2017, 01:51:44 am

If I can ever get in gear and start building the damn thing........and win the lottery  ;D........I'd bring my 1/350 scale Habakkuk (6 feet long) to Telford and wow the crowd and judges with that.  ;D  That would be surprising to see something that BIG get an award.  :o


That it would!  :o

You may need a hi-lift forklift to get it upstairs to the competition gallery though.  ;D

So, my 1:1 scale Matilda Frog which I have in the Garage downunder might have a few problems getting into the competition gallery, then?   :wacko:


Just a bit, yes.  ;D

Maybe they'd give you special dispensation to display it downstairs though, as a couple of years ago we had a full size tank in Hall 3, and it drove in under its own power!  :o

Right-ho!  I'll book passage on the next freighter to the UK, shall I?  Can I park it at your place once it arrives?   :thumbsup:


The mind BOGGLES at the effect 1:1 scale Matilda would have on Lydney!  :o

He can always park it at my place: it won't go through the gate* but I'd LOVE to see him park it on the kerb and then watch the impatient ****s try to take the wing mirror off it by passing it too closely... :wacko:



*Well I suppose, technically, it would, if I wanted a wider and messier gateway and/or no telephone line (the telephone pole is one of my "gate stumps").