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Title: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 18, 2016, 08:14:21 am
I think this is the appropriate forum to post this: I am working on a map of aviation museums and gate guards.  So far I have about 850 sites; I figure I have about half of the world's museums and 1/10th of the gate guards, so it will be a long project and probably never "done."  I include any museum with aviation artifacts, and there's a separate listing for other interesting sites such as memorials, factory tours, etc.  Please check it out and let me know what you think, and what I've missed. 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing)


Preview image:

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/markknapp/mapimage1.jpg)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 18, 2016, 08:23:22 am
You've got a job and a half on there!  :o

I know of a few gate guardians in the UK that you could add, I'll put a list together and post back on here.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 18, 2016, 10:50:27 am
Cool! I've been wanting something like this to spot the places near me in SW Oklahoma. In particular Altus AFB in Altus, Oklahoma. Oddly enough it seems to be a pain to look for any information on the internet about it. Usually, AFBs have some type of SOMETHING on display but I can't find anything for Altus AFB.

Also, Tinker AFB up in the Norman/OKC area. Pretty sure they have something going on but I don't remember what. 

The only one I've actually been to that I can recall is the AF Armament Museum at Eglin down on the FL panhandle. That was a pretty neat thing all around.

One thing I'd like to mention is the Science Museum in OKC. It has an Aviation wing with some neat stuff including some big innards of an Awacs that you can fiddle with all the buttons and stuff on. (Actually, I don't know if they still have that.... they did 25 years ago, though.. lol  )

Here's some pics of some of the stuff at the Oklahoma Science Museum:

(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0b/57/78/a9/view-of-a-part-of-the.jpg)

(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0b/57/78/92/f-104-starfighter-on.jpg)

(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0b/57/78/a0/vintage-airplane-motors.jpg)



Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 18, 2016, 11:03:31 am
Thanks, guys!  I will add the OK stuff tomorrow (I am off to work now,) and eagerly await the UK gate guards.

The map is posted on my Facebook group, The International Aviation Museum Guide.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/365080863684050/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/365080863684050/)

You might also like a couple of other groups I post in: 

Aircraft Gate Guardians and Planes on Pedestals:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/122160938171362/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/122160938171362/)

Aviation Wrecks and Relics: https://www.facebook.com/groups/293701250991601/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/293701250991601/)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 18, 2016, 12:08:43 pm
Thanks, guys!  I will add the OK stuff tomorrow (I am off to work now,) and eagerly await the UK gate guards.

The map is posted on my Facebook group, The International Aviation Museum Guide.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/365080863684050/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/365080863684050/)

You might also like a couple of other groups I post in: 

Aircraft Gate Guardians and Planes on Pedestals:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/122160938171362/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/122160938171362/)

Aviation Wrecks and Relics: https://www.facebook.com/groups/293701250991601/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/293701250991601/)

Shooooot yeah, dude! I'll join all three.  And glad I could help in some small way. Not a lot of folks know about the Science Museum having that aviation wing.  Or, it seems like not a lot know.. it's never popped up in any of my searching. Only reason I know about is that I've been there a few times back in grade school for field trips. 

Look for me on FB if you'd like, Brad Myers. 


Post Script:  I know an aircraft mechanic that works on the heavies at Altus AFB. I'll try to ask him what, if anything, they have there and get the info back to you.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kerick on October 18, 2016, 12:14:56 pm
I'm going to review this tonight on the home computer instead of my phone. I might have some Chicago suggestions if you don't have them already. This sounds really good.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 18, 2016, 04:29:06 pm
Got ahold of aircraft mechanic buddy, I'll quote verbatim what he told me and you can use the information as you see fit. I asked for a bit of clarification as to where exactly the 135 and 141 were but he hasn't gotten back yet.



" Here at Altus AFB we have two aircraft on display....a KC-135 and a C-141. And in town on the corner of the local high school is a vintage B-47."

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kerick on October 18, 2016, 05:04:50 pm
I see you have Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry already. Cool! They have a nice Stuka and a Spitfire plus I believe an entire 727 on display.
Not many folks know there is a restored Wildcat on display at Chicago's O'Hare IAP. It was recovered from Lake Michigan and is in the markings of the plane flown by "Butch" O'Hare. Here is the whole story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_O%27Hare

If I find anything else I'll throw it into the mix.

It appears Midway Airport in Chicago has a Dauntless on display.
http://www.flychicago.com/midway/en/AtAirport/Facilities/AirportExhibits/Exhibitions/Exhibitions.aspx

Plus:
Air Classics Museum, Sugar Grove, IL

Illinois Aviation Museum, Bolingbrook, IL
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: rickshaw on October 19, 2016, 01:43:46 am
You map appears to be missing half of Australia and most of the Pacific, including New Zealand...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Old Wombat on October 19, 2016, 02:14:42 am
That's just the preview image, mate! Click on the link & you get a much better option. ;)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on October 19, 2016, 02:49:43 am
Dandenong RSL.
37°59'10.15" S 145°13'11.64" E

(http://www.signad.com.au/assets/Uploads/Products/equipment-signs/RSL%20Helicopter%20001.jpg)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on October 19, 2016, 03:24:49 am
Cannot see what you have in Australia on your map so sorry if they are already there.

Classic Jets Fighter Museum at Parafield airport is one I have been to many times, and I even did some volunteer restoration work on the P-38:  http://www.classicjets.com/

One of my favorites as I worked in the next hanger over for a while and got to see all their aircraft daily is Flying Fighters at Archerfield airport: http://www.flyingfighters.com.Au/

One that is closer to zenrat than myself that I need to revisit because it was closed while I was there but there is a fair amount of aircraft parked outside is the Australian National Aviation Museum at Moorabin airport: http://www.aarg.com.au/

I have not yet gone to the South Australian Aviation Museum but I plan to as I'd like to see a Fokker Dr.1 up close: http://www.saam.org.au

I want to go to the Point Cook Museum sometime, they have regular warbird flying display's, tomorrow's display is a Corsair, shame I'm so far away: http://www.airforce.gov.au/raafmuseum/

There are many others I've been to or have listed to visit but I can't think of those at the moment. Hope those help. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on October 19, 2016, 03:40:07 am
The Moorabin museum is on the map Brad.
Coincidentally I will be there on the weekend.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on October 19, 2016, 03:54:06 am
Didn't see the link above the map. All I mentioned are there, that was a pointless endevour on my behalf. :banghead:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on October 19, 2016, 03:59:06 am
The Moorabin museum is on the map Brad.
Coincidentally I will be there on the weekend.

Cool, Should pop over to Point Cook to see the Corsair fly too, I would if I could.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on October 19, 2016, 03:59:43 am
Didn't see the link above the map. All I mentioned are there, that was a pointless endevour on my behalf. :banghead:

Meh! My first thought was "he's chopped Aus in half" and then I tried to click on the map and nothing happened.
As far as pointless endeavours go what you did ranks at almost zero compared to everything that goes on in Canberra.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 19, 2016, 04:50:02 am
I've managed to find the entire world map with all the stuff that Reddfoxx has added so far.

And Australia and New Zealand are on there OK.  ;D

Try this :- https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8 (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8)

It always opens up centered on Dayton OH so you need to hit the '-' key a lot to get anywhere else in the World to come visible.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: NARSES2 on October 19, 2016, 07:32:47 am
That's an amazing piece of work  :bow:

One of our local hotels has a DH Dove parked on a pole outside (it is the old Croydon Airport hotel) and we have a fair few BoB airfields around which have gate guardians. I'll have a good look at your site and see if I can fill any gaps in
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 19, 2016, 08:21:14 am
Thank you all for the support!  It is a work in progress, but I hope it is useful.

I am working through your posts.  TheChronicOne, I see you found what I did at Altus, and both are on the map.  There is an airpark at Tinker, a nice one, also now on there.

I knew about the Wildcat at O'Hare but not the Dauntless at Midway. That is next up, thanks.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 19, 2016, 08:38:57 am
Narses2, I added the Dove- and the Croydon Visitor Centre it is in front of.  Nice find.

Zenrat, I stole your Huey pic for that site...

Flyer, there are no pointless discussions about aviation museums!  Thanks for your comments.  Even though I had them on the map, it is nice to hear more about them.  I will say that there is a certain relief when a suggestion is already on the map, but also excitement when I hear about a new one.

Not sure why it opens on Dayton; maybe that is the first museum I added.  There must be a setting to change that; I'm learning as I go.

Please check your local museums and make sure I have the locations correct.  I am often guessing, combining info from their website, Google Maps, Google Earth, etc.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 09:06:17 am
Talked to mechanic guy again, he told me the strato tanker and the starlifter are in a park of sorts. Only two planes in it but I guess it's still considered an air park.  I took the liberty of grabbing a screen of it off google maps.

(http://i.imgur.com/gkwU5A9.jpg)


Of course, if one were wanting, they, too, could fire up the ol' google maps and go explore the place yourself. In fact, just out of view are rows of aircraft parked on the tarmac. C-17s I believe! Used to be were the Galaxies sat. Mechanic said most of his career was spent working on the galaxy.  (not sure I mentioned that or not.. but it's pretty cool if you ask me.. )



EDIT: Reddfoxx was already one step ahead of me!   Hey, as a sidenote, mechanic guy mentioned taking pictures of the planes at the airpark, I said that would be helpful. If he remembers and gets them to me, I'll pass them along. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 09:09:57 am
Dandenong RSL.
37°59'10.15" S 145°13'11.64" E

(http://www.signad.com.au/assets/Uploads/Products/equipment-signs/RSL%20Helicopter%20001.jpg)

Dang, that's nice... they either recently refurbished it or take really good care of it! 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 09:12:26 am
Thank you all for the support!  It is a work in progress, but I hope it is useful.

I am working through your posts.  TheChronicOne, I see you found what I did at Altus, and both are on the map.  There is an airpark at Tinker, a nice one, also now on there.

I knew about the Wildcat at O'Hare but not the Dauntless at Midway. That is next up, thanks.

Excellent, yes, I see now! Cool, bud.   :mellow: :lol:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 09:17:34 am
I've managed to find the entire world map with all the stuff that Reddfoxx has added so far.

And Australia and New Zealand are on there OK.  ;D

Try this :- https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8 (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8)

It always opens up centered on Dayton OH so you need to hit the '-' key a lot to get anywhere else in the World to come visible.

Building on this, I can offer some more helpful advice: Use the scroll wheel on the mouse in place of the "+" "-" buttons. It zooms in an out easier that way, in my opinion.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kerick on October 19, 2016, 06:28:34 pm
Talked to mechanic guy again, he told me the strato tanker and the starlifter are in a park of sorts. Only two planes in it but I guess it's still considered an air park.  I took the liberty of grabbing a screen of it off google maps.

(http://i.imgur.com/gkwU5A9.jpg)


Of course, if one were wanting, they, too, could fire up the ol' google maps and go explore the place yourself. In fact, just out of view are rows of aircraft parked on the tarmac. C-17s I believe! Used to be were the Galaxies sat. Mechanic said most of his career was spent working on the galaxy.  (not sure I mentioned that or not.. but it's pretty cool if you ask me.. )



EDIT: Reddfoxx was already one step ahead of me!   Hey, as a sidenote, mechanic guy mentioned taking pictures of the planes at the airpark, I said that would be helpful. If he remembers and gets them to me, I'll pass them along.

Looks like the park has room for future displays!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 07:20:04 pm
Yeah buddy! It's a damn shame they didn't put a C-5 there. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on October 20, 2016, 03:09:41 am
Dandenong RSL.
37°59'10.15" S 145°13'11.64" E

(http://www.signad.com.au/assets/Uploads/Products/equipment-signs/RSL%20Helicopter%20001.jpg)

Dang, that's nice... they either recently refurbished it or take really good care of it! 

It's a while since I went and looked at it so I can't remember when it was refurbished.  At least 10 years though.
It is painted in US markings on one side and Australian on the other.
For a while I was working opposite it and it was the first thing i saw when I walked out of the box room.  I kept getting flashbacks to the time I spent in the nineties watching Tour of Duty...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 20, 2016, 03:55:37 am
This could become a very useful reference site!

Do you want us to provide details of what aircraft are at each site?

I can tell you all about the Ulster Aviation Society where they let you sit in their Sea Hawk and Buccaneer  :lol:

The Irish Air Corps Museum is in the top left hangar north of the runways. In 2009 they had an Avro Anson, Chipmunk, DH Vampire, Fouga Magister, Reims 172, Alouette, Gazelle?, Wright Flyer replica and some sort of flight deck simulator. While there you will probably everything else the Irish Air Corps have in service! The local Garda base their pair of EC135 helos there.

North Weald Airfield Museum have no aircraft, just a large collection of memorabilia. Aircraft can be seen flying from the airfield.

Royal Engineers Museum in Chatham have a Harrier GR3.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 20, 2016, 07:11:41 am
Dandenong RSL.
37°59'10.15" S 145°13'11.64" E

(http://www.signad.com.au/assets/Uploads/Products/equipment-signs/RSL%20Helicopter%20001.jpg)

Dang, that's nice... they either recently refurbished it or take really good care of it! 

It's a while since I went and looked at it so I can't remember when it was refurbished.  At least 10 years though.
It is painted in US markings on one side and Australian on the other.
For a while I was working opposite it and it was the first thing i saw when I walked out of the box room.  I kept getting flashbacks to the time I spent in the nineties watching Tour of Duty...
I still view the early 2000's as recent history.   :o ;D  Any movie less than 10-12 years old is still "new" etc.  LOL   

That's cool how they did the split paint job. I was wondering why it was a U.S. helicopter!  I used to watch those fly around all the time over here by the army airfield.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 20, 2016, 07:19:21 am
This could become a very useful reference site!

Do you want us to provide details of what aircraft are at each site?

I can tell you all about the Ulster Aviation Society where they let you sit in their Sea Hawk and Buccaneer  :lol:

The Irish Air Corps Museum is in the top left hangar north of the runways. In 2009 they had an Avro Anson, Chipmunk, DH Vampire, Fouga Magister, Reims 172, Alouette, Gazelle?, Wright Flyer replica and some sort of flight deck simulator. While there you will probably everything else the Irish Air Corps have in service! The local Garda base their pair of EC135 helos there.

North Weald Airfield Museum have no aircraft, just a large collection of memorabilia. Aircraft can be seen flying from the airfield.

Royal Engineers Museum in Chatham have a Harrier GR3.

Thanks for all the info.  Yes, please, tell me what's there.  Each site has a box for address, notes, pix, etc., and I put in what I can as I go.  Once the list is more fully fleshed out I will go back through and try to add a pic and info for each site.  You guys have already given me a lot of great leads.

I will say that if it's a huge museum I often don't list anything- I figure we already know it's worth visiting.  For the smaller places, particularly museums that aren't aviation-centered and for small outdoor displays, I try to post what they have so you don't make a special trip but get disappointed.  I mean, I am never disappointed when I find any aviation display, anywhere, but I don't want to drag my wife 2 hours out of our way on vacation just for a DC-3 control wheel...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 20, 2016, 10:05:36 am
In 2007 Carnarfon Aviation Museum had a Gloster Javelin nose, Westland Whirlwind SAR, Bristol Sycamore, Hawker Sea Hawk, Slingsby Cadet, Hawker Hunter F1, DH Vampire T11, Tiger Moth and now a Harrier T2.

You might want to add in the Petwood Hotel in Woodhall Spa. This was the squadron mess for the Dambusters and has lots of historical artefacts plus a trial bouncing bomb.

Thorpe Camp have Tiger Moth, Mew Gull and EE Lightning F1A.

RAF Air Defence Radar Museum at Neatishead have a Bloodhound missile outside.

http://www.americanairmuseum.com/place/137 Glatton airfield has a large memorial where Conington Lane meets the A1.
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Glatton%20Airbase/IMAG0672_zps6d8c6b4e.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Glatton%20Airbase/IMAG0673_zpsf52efdc4.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Glatton%20Airbase/IMAG0678_zpsfe40c446.jpg)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: upnorth on October 21, 2016, 05:51:41 am
I can help you mark a few more places on that map:

For the Czech Republic, there are the following:

Kunovice Air Museum: http://www.museum-kunovice.cz/

Air Cafe: http://www.aircafe-brno.com/

Konesin Air Museum: http://www.letecke-muzeum.cz/

Stara Aerovka: http://www.staraaerovka.cz/

Letecke Muzeum Metodeje Vlacha: http://www.letecke-muzeum-metodeje-vlacha.cz/

Czechoslovak Airmen Memorial in Pribor: http://turista.pribor.eu/sights/monuments/czechoslovak-airmen-memorial/


For Austria:

Zeltweg Military Air museum: http://www.luftstreitkraefte.at/index.php?id=2

Austrian Air Museum Graz-Thalerhof: http://www.luftfahrtmuseum.at/

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: dwomby on October 21, 2016, 06:38:54 am
Please check it out and let me know what you think, and what I've missed. 

I can offer a couple of local gate guardians - there's a Vigilante at the gate of Orlando Sanford Airport(SFB) and a B-52 at Orlando International (MCO).

David
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 21, 2016, 08:17:08 am
Thanks folks!  We'll see if I have time to add all that today; if not, I am off next week so will definitely be working on this.

We have about 950 sites so far, so should hit 1000 this weekend.  There are about 85 people in the Facebook group.  I am thinking of doing a giveaway for our 100th member- I have a spare copy of The Fob's Kid Syndrome on my shelf- so please sign up, and tell your friends.  Someone will get it. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 21, 2016, 04:45:15 pm
Found some more at the Tulsa Internat'l Airport  (ANG Base) in Oklahoma:

(http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/images/Oklahoma%20Gate%20Guards/tulsa-a-7-96w-1.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/images/Oklahoma%20Gate%20Guards/tulsa-f-16-96w-1.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/images/Oklahoma%20Gate%20Guards/tulsa-f-86-96w-1.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/images/Oklahoma%20Gate%20Guards/tulsa-f-100-96w-1.jpg)

Also, in Oklahoma City:   "Oklahoma City:  45th Infantry Division Museum -Thunderbird Park - A-7, F-80, F-86L, L-17, L-19, OH-13, OH-23C, OH-58, U-3, U-6A(L-20), UH-1"

(http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/images/Oklahoma%20Gate%20Guards/okcity-45div-display-96w-1.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/images/Oklahoma%20Gate%20Guards/okcity-45div-u-6-96w-1.jpg)

There are about a dozen more photos here:
http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/oklahomagateguards.htm

Further, that website there seems to have data on tons of this stuff.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: rickshaw on October 21, 2016, 09:38:56 pm
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11 F-111Cs were retained as heritage assets. Five will be placed on display at RAAF bases.

    A8-125, RAAF Museum
    A8-126, Aviation Heritage Centre, RAAF Base Amberley
    A8-132, RAAF Base Edinburgh
    A8-138, RAAF Base Amberley, to become a gate guard
    A8-142, RAAF Base Wagga

On 4 October 2012, six more cosmetically restored and repainted aircraft were unveiled at RAAF Base Amberley for display at private aviation museums.[93] Ownership is retained by the Australian government and aircraft undergo continual maintenance and non-destructive testing. They were loaned to:

    Australian Aviation Heritage Centre Northern Territory Darwin, Northern Territory[94]
    Evans Head Memorial Aerodrome Heritage Aviation Association, Evans Head, New South Wales
    A8-148 – Fighter World, RAAF Base Williamtown.[95]
    A8-109 - Historical Aircraft Restoration Society, Illawarra Regional Airport
    Queensland Air Museum, Caloundra Airport
    South Australian Aviation Museum
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-111C#Aircraft_on_display]Source (http://)]


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    Canberra WJ680 (Royal Air Force) is on display at the Temora Aviation Museum in New South Wales. It was acquired in 2001 and the aircraft was fully restored to airworthiness and painted to represent the Canberras flown by No. 2 Squadron RAAF during the Vietnam war. It is Australia's only airworthy Canberra.[147]
    Mk.20 Canberra A84-225 is on static display at Queensland Aviation Museum, Caloundra Airport, Queensland.[148]
    The South Australian Aviation Museum at Port Adelaide has a non-flying Canberra B2, WK165 [149]
    Two Canberras are on static display by the Cunningham Highway south of Amberley, Queensland.[150][151]
    A Canberra bomber is on display at the entrance to RAAF Base Wagga, New South Wales.[152]
    Canberra A84-241 is on display at Woomera Missile Park, Woomera, South Australia.[153][154]
    Canberra A84-307 is on display at the National Vietnam Veterans Museum, Phillip Island, Victoria[155]
    Canberra A84-226 is under restoration at the Australian National Aviation Museum in Moorabbin, Victoria. It was previously on display at RAAF Base Wagga.[156][157]
[Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Canberra#Australia)]

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    CA-27 Mk.32

    A94-983 Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) - restored to flying condition (registered VH-PCM) in the 1980s and grounded in the 1990s; loaned to the Temora Aviation Museum, Temora, New South Wales, where it was again restored to airworthy condition; displayed regularly (registered VH-IPN) since September 2009.[1]
    A94-352 - Latrobe Flying Museum Restored and owned by former squadron leader Jeff Trappett, using parts from A94-907 which he also owns. A94-352 had its second test flight 05/10/2013, he also owns CAC CA-18 Mustang Mk.21 A68-118 VH-AGJ[2]

On display

    CA-26

    A94-101 - RAAF Museum, RAAF Base Williams, Point Cook, Victoria; CAC Sabre prototype, first aircraft to fly faster than the speed of sound in Australia.[3]

    CA-27 Mk.31

    A94-901 - Historical Aircraft Restoration Society, Illawarra Regional Airport, New South Wales; first production CAC Sabre.[4]
    A94-915 - Narromine Aviation Museum, Narromine Airport, New South Wales.[5]
    A94-935 - Queensland Air Museum, Caloundra, Queensland.[6]

    CA-27 Mk.32

    A94-944 - RAAF Museum, RAAF Base Williams, Point Cook, Victoria.[citation needed]
    A94-959 - Fighter World, RAAF Base Williamtown.
    A94-974 - Classic Jets Fighter Museum, Parafield Airport, South Australia.[7]
    A94-982 - RAAF Museum, RAAF Base Wagga, Forest Hill, New South Wales.[citation needed]
    A94-989 - Australian National Aviation Museum, Moorabbin Airport, Victoria.[8]

Stored or under restoration

    CA-27 Mk.32

    A94-970 - Australian War Memorial in storage at RAAF Williams, Point Cook, Victoria.[citation needed]
    F-86L-60 NA 53-4036 - Cockpit and nose under restoration at Derelict Aircraft Museum, Launching Place, Victoria.
[Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_Sabre_aircraft#Australia)]

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Three Boomerangs remain airworthy today, all in Australia:

    A46-122 CA-13 "Suzy Q" (VH-MHR) with the Temora Aviation Museum
    A46-206 CA-19 "Milingimbi Ghost" which was formerly with Lynette Zuccoli at Toowoomba until donated to the Museum of Australian Army Flying at the Army Aviation base located at the nearby town of Oakey is now on static display.
    A46-63 a CA-12 from 1943 first flew again on 26 June 2009 as VH-XBL. The restoration includes the provision of a passenger seat.

Several others are under restoration to fly in both Australia and the USA, which includes A46-90 currently being restored to airworthy status.[24][25]

A46-30, which has been restored but is not airworthy, is part of an exhibition at the Australian War Memorial.[26]

A full-scale airworthy replica with many original parts, painted as A46-139, was based in the United States (N32CS) for some years but was recently sold to the Netherlands. It is now in flying condition and based at Antwerp International Airport.[27][28]
[Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_Boomerang#Survivors)]


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    The CAC Wirraway (originally NA-16-2K) was first modified to British standards and equipment, then later models diverged further from the NA-16 in minor details such as the fitting of dive brakes etc.
    The sole surviving CA-1 Wirraway is A20-10, the 8th production Wirraway, effectively a licence built NA-16-2K, and held at the Australian National Aviation Museum.[11]
    A total of 10 are on the Australian civil aircraft register.[12]
    Further museum examples (in Australia unless noted) are at Temora Aviation Museum, Australian National Aviation Museum, Aviation Heritage Museum, Museum of Victoria, Queensland Air Museum, RAAF Museum (Stored) and the Fantasy of Flight (Florida - stored).
[Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_Wirraway#Surviving_aircraft)]
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on October 21, 2016, 09:46:38 pm
...the Australian National Aviation Museum at Moorabin airport: http://www.aarg.com.au/...

Was there today.  It was pishing down so didn't get a chance to have a look at the outdoors stuff (although most of them would be best photographed from over the fence).
However, you drive in past a DC3, Bristol Freighter, Viscount, Wessex (looking sad with no rotors), Gannet, Meteor and Sabre.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/Pic_1022_422_zpsyiottrvz.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/Pic_1022_422_zpsyiottrvz.jpg.html)
I will return at a later date when the heavens have closed again.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: upnorth on October 21, 2016, 11:46:16 pm
Also in the Czech Republic are a couple of restaurants built out of decommisioned airliners.

Jet Restaurant in Chvalovice is a former Czechoslovak Airlines Ilyushin Il-62:  48.764251, 16.065326

Air Kofola on the highway near Bakov nad Jizerou is a forner Czechoslovak Airlines Ilyushin Il-18: 50.465507, 14.942218
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on October 22, 2016, 08:26:32 am
I admire your work, it's going to be a looooong road ahead! In Toronto, there is a CF-5 displayed at 43.751410, -79.467371
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on October 22, 2016, 08:29:57 am
In Smiths Falls, Ontario, there is a Yale on a pole at 44.896016, -76.023430  I may have a picture of it somewhere in my files.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on October 22, 2016, 08:47:59 am
Oshawa, Ontario, CF-86 at 43.917050, -78.893932

Malton, Ontario, CF-100 at 43.711391, -79.632949

Haliburton, Ontario, CF-100 at 45.042650, -78.521375

Cornwall, Ontario, T-33 at 45.012970, -74.732516 There is a second one in Cornwall, but I can't find it on Google Earth.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on October 22, 2016, 08:54:15 am
Alongside Interstate 90, south of Erie, Pennsylvania, there is an F-94C at 45.012970, -74.732516
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 22, 2016, 09:05:20 am
I will get to work on those this weekend, thanks!  I know there are a lot to add.  I think I am getting close to having all of the museums; gate guards and air parks will be the next phase, and a big one.  I especially appreciate the precise locations; saves me time tracking them down.

TheChronicOne, I found another in OK: Stafford Air Museum.  http://staffordmuseum.org/ (http://staffordmuseum.org/)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on October 22, 2016, 09:31:41 am
VL Viima "VI-1" preserved at the site of the former Valtion Lentokonetehdas factory in Tampere, Finland.

https://goo.gl/maps/QmuhtvFChkp

61°28'20.7"N 23°43'34.0"E

It was recently moved to the other side of the street, with new 1941 colours and insignia, due to extensive construction work in the area. Google Maps isn't nearly that up to date.

Wikipedia image, as it was until the recent move and repaint:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Viima_museum_plane_in_Tampere_Aug2011_002.jpg/800px-Viima_museum_plane_in_Tampere_Aug2011_002.jpg)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on October 22, 2016, 10:16:41 am
Folland Gnat F.1 erected as a monument at the garrison/Air Force base near Rovaniemi, Finland.

https://goo.gl/maps/v1PmSPzL72x

66°33'21.2"N 25°47'30.0"E
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on October 22, 2016, 12:50:34 pm
Okay, found the second T-33 in Cornwall: 45.026724, -74.682036
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 22, 2016, 01:58:23 pm
RAF Alconbury has a plastic F-5 as a gate guard. On Ermine Street next to the Grace Fellowship church.

RAF Lakenheath has an F-100 inside the gate on the Brandon Road, across from Starbucks. Go east along that road and see what's written on the roof....
RAF Croughton, Northants, has an F-105G and F-100D by the guard house.

At Beck Row there is a privately owned Hawker Hunter. Look for Suffolk Caravan Accessories and Pine Farm Kennels, halfway between Mildenhall and Lakenheath.
http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&p=68826

RAF North Weald has a plastic Hurricane as a gate guardian by the control tower.
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/DSC00451.jpg)

RAF Leconfield is supposed to have a Meteor T.7 at the gate.

Wattisham Army Base have a Gazelle at the gate on Roman Road. There is now a Museum on the site with a Phantom, Hunter, Lightning cockpit, Westland Scout and a Lynx.
http://www.wattishamstationheritage.org/museum-history-.html

Portland Marina and Boatyard near Weymouth has a Lynx on display near Portland Yacht Club. The whole site was formerly HMS Osprey.
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Helicopters/Lynx%20Portland1_zpsonasnpzz.jpg)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 22, 2016, 02:30:01 pm
Google Imaging 'RAF gate guardians' comes up with well over 200 pics of allsorts of stuff, some on poles, some on wheels, one or two perched on roofs even! I could be typing for some time................
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 22, 2016, 02:31:18 pm
Parham Airfield Museum, home to the Museum of the British Resistance Organisation. They have a collection of aircraft parts and flying memorabilia on display.
http://www.parhamairfieldmuseum.co.uk/AboutUs.html

Museum of Science and Industry, Manchester. Shackleton, Dragon Rapide, English Electric P.1A, Avro 707A, Spitfire, Bristol Belvedere, others.
http://msimanchester.org.uk/en/whats-on/gallery/air-and-space
(Though this hall might be closing by 2020 :angry: )

De Havilland Aircraft Museum is shown in the wrong place. It is actually 2 miles south on the other side of the M25 beyond McDonalds, near the Arsenal and Watford Football Club training grounds.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 22, 2016, 03:15:49 pm
RAF Croughton, actually a USAF communications base, has an F-100D and an F-105G on their gate, although it's difficult to see them from the road as they're quite a way back. Lat-Long 51.99647,-1.18964

RAF Benson has a plastic Spitfire PRXI on a pole by the gate. Lat-Long 51.61312,-1.08752

RAF Odiham has a Whirlwind HAR10 in camo as a 'guardian' but it's a LONG way inside the base, just near the Ops Centre in fact, so there's little chance of seeing it unless you can get on the base. Odiham used to have an ex-US Army Chinook, one of three sent to the UK prior to the RAF order, that was off base, but it wasn't there the last time I was, some 4 yrs ago. Lat-Long 51.24051,-0.94596

RAF Lossimouth has a Tornado GR4 on the gate, just visible from the road. The Shackleton AEW2 that used to be there has long gone sadly. Lat-Long 57.71065,-3.30759

Somewhat bizarrely a few miles south of Lossiemouth, just on the outskirts of Elgin, there's a Buccaneer S2B standing guard on a petrol station, which logically is called the Bucaneers Petrol Station! Lat-Long 57.66324,-3.31209

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3272/RefhX6.jpg)

Pic copied shamelessly from Google Earth as I can't find my own pic of it.

RAF Wyton has a Canberra PR9 XH170 (naturally...) right on the entrance. Lat-Long 52.34818,-0.12017

Those are just the ones I know off my head, but there's so few active RAF bases around these days there can't be many more.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 22, 2016, 03:34:54 pm
I'd like to know how much surplus wound up in some oddball place. Like... "20 miles from civilization there is a "gate guard" out in a cow pasture" or something.

There has to be one or two oddities across the globe...   
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 22, 2016, 04:38:13 pm
Well, what a coincidence... I just looked on my facebook feed and saw this:

http://www.kswo.com/story/33452671/plane-make-emergency-landing-in-field

Right here in my own county.. about a 20 minute drive. 

(http://kswo.images.worldnow.com/images/12236909_G.jpg)

(not a display or gate guard, merely an emergency landing...but one hell of a coincidence)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on October 22, 2016, 08:27:27 pm
Doing a google I found this somewhere in Oodnadatta South Australia:

http://www.traveller.com.au/content/dam/images/g/i/j/5/g/k/image.gallery.galleryLandscape.620x414.gjkl50.png/1442140181398.jpg
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 22, 2016, 10:36:07 pm
Wow!  All kinds of great finds, thanks.  I have added some.  Now it is late.  I'll get on it more this week.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 23, 2016, 08:18:10 am
Alright, all caught up.  For now- I think the "gate guard and air park" section is going to keep me busy for years.

I added most of your tips and made a few corrections. Thanks for those- if I haven't been there, I often assume the location is correct.  Don't know why the de Havilland museum would be so far off. 

TheChronicOne: I love the T-28.  You should go see it.

The Rat: I can't find the F-94 near Erie; the coordinates are the same as one of the Cornwall planes.

Flyer: that is an... interesting sculpture... near Oodnadatta.  Can't find it; any more info?  What are those?  I would do something like that in my backyard if I could.  Speaking of, need to finish up since my wife and daughter are about to wake up.

I appreciate all your input.  Coordinates really help.  We now have 821 museums, 181 gate guards and air parks, and 48 other sites.  Wow.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on October 23, 2016, 08:26:32 am
Not sure, I googled aircraft on display in Australian outback and apart from Drovers and Caribous that I'm sure you'd have already there was that, looks to be Beechcraft Bonanza's to me, I'll have another look and see if I can find some info.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 23, 2016, 09:00:33 am
Yep, I thought Bonanzas or T-34s, but couldn't figure out why there'd be two scrapped out there.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on October 23, 2016, 11:24:21 am
The Rat: I can't find the F-94 near Erie; the coordinates are the same as one of the Cornwall planes.

Probably my mistake, try this one: 42.035858, -80.115179
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 23, 2016, 02:11:27 pm
Thanks, added the 94.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 26, 2016, 08:56:45 am
And I just found more information about it:

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/caretakers-sought-for-korean-war-era-fighter-jet-in-pa-veteran-s-cemetery-1.434004 (http://www.stripes.com/news/us/caretakers-sought-for-korean-war-era-fighter-jet-in-pa-veteran-s-cemetery-1.434004)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on October 26, 2016, 10:40:22 am
In Trenton, Ontario, there is a CF-5 on a pole outside the Ramada Inn, at 44.130862, -77.583480
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 27, 2016, 08:24:47 pm
Added, thanks.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 28, 2016, 10:29:31 am
A slightly unusual one is the Czech National Police Museum who have a Mil-2 helicopter in the grounds and various models of former Police aircraft inside the museum. Lots of motorbikes too!

Address at top right on  http://www.muzeumpolicie.cz/ 
Map here http://www.prague.eu/en/object/places/544/czech-police-museum-muzeum-policie-cr
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 28, 2016, 03:36:07 pm
Nice find, thanks!  And the location info sure helps.  Some I can just add in a minute or so; others I have to track down using Google Maps, Google Earth, and some "elbow grease" on the mouse...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on October 29, 2016, 04:51:32 am
Aircraft Park in Kauhava, Finland:
https://www.google.fi/maps/place/63%C2%B006'02.5%22N+23%C2%B003'27.1%22E/@63.1006968,23.0553391,356m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d63.1006944!4d23.0575278
63°06'02.5"N 23°03'27.1"E

The Finnish Air Force Training Air Wing was located in Kauhava from 1937 to 2014.

A park in the town currently has two display cabinets with trainer aircraft (Saab 91D Safir, Focke-Wulf Fw 44J Stieglitz, VL Pyry - and a Valmet Vinka coming when they are decommissioned) and a BA Hawk on a pole. The plan is to also move two Fouga Magisters, mounted on poles, from the former Air Force site to the park - and there is an option for a third display cabinet.

(https://asiakas.kotisivukone.com/files/ilmailumuseoyhdistys.kotisivukone.com/uutiskuvat/kauhavan_hawk_ja_vitriini_2014-10-14_640x360.jpg)

(https://asiakas.kotisivukone.com/files/ilmailumuseot.kotisivukone.com/uutiskuvat/Kauhavan_vitriini_2016-09-29_b_Timo_Telen.jpg)

(http://www.lentosotakoulunkilta.fi/lsk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/fouga-magister-muistomerkki.jpg)

Google's images are not up to date.
The Fougas are still at the former Air Force site, near the airport:
https://www.google.fi/maps/place/63%C2%B006'48.1%22N+23%C2%B002'28.0%22E/@63.1133635,23.0389224,356m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d63.1133611!4d23.0411111

edit:
Finnish Aviation Museum Society page that seems updated on what is there:
http://www.ilmailumuseot.fi/tuotteet.html?id=25534/
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on October 29, 2016, 07:22:31 am
Shopping center Tuulonen, near Hämeenlinna Finland, has currently four former Finnish Air Force aircraft:
- Douglas DC-2 (Finnish military code DO-1) "Hanssin Jukka" in a display "hangar"
- Focke-Wulf FW 44 Stieglitz (SZ-18) suspended from the ceiling
- MiG-21 Bis (MG-124) outside
- Saab 35FS Draken (DK-249) outside

https://www.google.fi/maps/place/Kauppakeskus+Tuulonen/@61.106108,24.8622953,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x468e4f5b7d45ae87:0x966ead903027c7c0!8m2!3d61.106108!4d24.864484

61°06'22.0"N 24°51'54.3"E

Finnish Aviation Museum Society bilingual page on the location:
http://www.ilmailumuseot.fi/tuotteet.html?id=33435/
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on October 29, 2016, 08:31:05 am
Messerschmitt Bf 109G-6 (MT-452) in a display cabinet at Utti, Finland.
https://www.google.fi/maps/place/60%C2%B053'34.6%22N+26%C2%B054'37.8%22E/@60.8933887,26.9100123,407m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d60.8929444!4d26.9105

60°53'34.6"N 26°54'37.8"E

(and an Antonov An-2 at the gas station next door)

Utti was one of Finnish main bases during WWII, and has a lot of other aviation history, too, so there is a variety of related memorials etc. in the area. Now Finnish special forces are trained there, so there are some restrictions but access to the display is OK.

A page with some old and new photos: http://ilmakilta.info/mersu.php

(http://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/02/60/69/74_big.jpg)

Video, stills and sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dglpJtkz6SA
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 29, 2016, 09:24:35 am
Beautiful Finnish finds, thanks!  I will add them today.

The map now has more than 1200 sites: 925 museums, 256 gate guards, 48 other aviation sites such as memorials, factory tours, etc.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 29, 2016, 10:27:24 am
What are your thoughts on air crash memorials?

There's a hillside in South Wales with the remains of a Wellington bomber that crashed in 1942.
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07031.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07036.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07035.jpg)

Location   51°52'15.5"N 3°21'51.6"W     51.870982, -3.364334
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 29, 2016, 10:33:22 am
And another one I've seen. RAF Charterhall in Scotland was home to Richard Hillary who wrote The Last Enemy.
Location of memorial
55°42'47.4"N 2°23'30.6"W

55.713155, -2.391838

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/The%20Last%20Enemy/562_zpshy9hduq9.jpg)(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/The%20Last%20Enemy/565_zps3jnsiiez.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/The%20Last%20Enemy/567_zpsfcsovezn.jpg)(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/The%20Last%20Enemy/566_zps1fcloi7a.jpg)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 29, 2016, 10:43:59 am
And one we were talking about at work today - the Bristol Freighter Hotel!
http://www.waitomomotel.co.nz/accommodation.htm#plane
http://www.woodlynpark.co.nz/


Location
38°15'13.3"S 175°07'07.1"E

-38.253689, 175.118647
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on October 29, 2016, 11:25:58 am
Some Drakens in Finland...

- Saab 35FS Draken (DK-237) near the canteen of the Satakunta Wing in Pirkkala. You need to walk past the gate to get close enough. Foreigners might want to be careful about entering.
https://www.google.fi/maps/place/Satakunta+Air+Command/@61.4076089,23.6243784,203m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x468f21c9168da49d:0x49b0a9ae4ed89f83!8m2!3d61.4085106!4d23.6284029
61°24'27.3"N 23°37'32.8"E

- Saab 35BS Draken (DK-208) on a pole at a roundabout near Turku airport
https://goo.gl/maps/eBGCA1LE86N2
60°30'22.1"N 22°18'03.2"E

- Saab 35S Draken (DK-211) as a gate guardian at the Lapland Wing in Rovaniemi
https://www.google.fi/maps/place/66%C2%B034'03.7%22N+25%C2%B048'22.9%22E/@66.5676951,25.8056254,105m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d66.5676944!4d25.8063611
66°34'03.7"N 25°48'22.9"E

- Saab 35S Draken (DK-201) mounted in the village of Halli where the Air Force used to have its Technical School
https://goo.gl/maps/ny8MzwK3ogr
61°51'38.5"N 24°49'40.4"E

- Saab 35S Draken (DK-203) mounted at Kittilä airport
https://goo.gl/maps/HUTDwV6b1J12
67°41'39.7"N 24°51'50.5"E

- Saab 35S Draken (DK-219) mounted at Pudasjärvi airfield
https://www.google.fi/maps/place/65%C2%B023'54.6%22N+26%C2%B057'45.0%22E/@65.3985022,26.9603113,327m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d65.3985!4d26.9625
65°23'54.6"N 26°57'45.0"E (approx. Google Earth images are fuzzy)

(https://d31asmy75eposw.cloudfront.net/full/2/58429_1120457424.jpg)

Photo from http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/501673
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 29, 2016, 02:22:48 pm
Nick: I have some memorials on there, and air crash memorials seem pertinent, at least for the "other aviation sites" part of the list.  Maybe someday I can set up a map layer just for crashes.  For now, you might be interested in the Aviation Wrecks and Relics page on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/293701250991601/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/293701250991601/)


Perttime: thanks for all the hints.  And special thanks for all the location info- makes things so much easier for me!  I'm glad to see Finland is working so hard to preserve planes, enclosing them when they can.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: upnorth on October 30, 2016, 05:57:57 am
There is a MiG-15 in the Czech village of Jilem:  49.175057, 15.264242

There is also a MiG-19 in the village of Horní Němčí: 48.935360, 17.622617

A MiG-23 is preserved at Planá: 48.951902, 14.452668

The Czech air base at Čáslav has a MiG-21 just inside the main gate: 49.938333, 15.398621

Just inside the main gate at the base at Naměšt' nad Oslavou are a MiG-15 and L-29 Delfin: 49.175059, 16.120914
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on October 30, 2016, 07:02:37 am
Do you have the Bristol Freighter on a gate guard stand at Yellowknife Airport? 

http://s200.photobucket.com/user/kitnut617/media/Bristol%20Freighter%20Mk%2031/triptoYellowknife016.jpg.html

Down in Lethbridge there's a T-33 and I think also there's a Harvard.

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/44239/permanently_grounded.jpg


Then there's the Reynolds Museum in Wetaskawin

http://www.rvwest.com/images/uploads/museum_from_the_air.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uT3tRPiDWBg/UuWLEa88nxI/AAAAAAAAM3A/A5L5t9byh90/s1600/DSCN2486.JPG

all in Alberta
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 30, 2016, 12:17:54 pm
There is a Westland WS-51 Dragonfly HR.5 WG751 on display at the Historic Dockyard, Chatham. I have memories of seeing this 15 years ago and it is an odd looking bird!

Just to the left of the Royal Engineers Museum on the River Medway. Visible between HMS Gannet and HMS Ocelot!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on October 30, 2016, 01:35:55 pm
There is a Westland WS-51 Dragonfly HR.5 WG751 on display at the Historic Dockyard, Chatham. I have memories of seeing this 15 years ago and it is an odd looking bird!

Just to the left of the Royal Engineers Museum on the River Medway. Visible between HMS Gannet and HMS Ocelot!
Cannot spot it on Google Earth - which is no evidence. For all I know it is still there. There's photos of it in other parts of the Chatham Historic Dockyard, so perhaps it has been moved around as necessary?

http://www.helis.com/database/cn/37129/
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on October 30, 2016, 01:54:25 pm
That's odd! It is visible using the GE view in the Museum mapping but as you point out, not on current GE.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Dragonfly gets moved around the site a bit.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 30, 2016, 10:36:35 pm
I'll check all these out tomorrow and add what I can find.  There are often issues with Google Earth, especially finding something as small as a Dragonfly (and if it's in any kind of camo.)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on October 31, 2016, 09:25:05 am
I see the Dragonfly, found it by its shadow.  Thanks for that and all the detailed information over the past few days. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 06, 2016, 07:14:59 am
Added everything on here so far.  We now have more than 1300 sites- almost 1000 museums, more than 250 gate guards and air parks, and about 50 other sites including factory tours, restaurants with plane themes, etc.  The gate guard section is the fastest-growing, and will surely be the largest.

Map link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 06, 2016, 07:45:35 am
Awesome progress!  As I've said before, we've been lacking something like this on the internet for awhile. There's stuff out there.. but... it's always missing SOMETHING. 

Keep it up, bro!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 06, 2016, 08:06:45 am
Well, this is always going to be missing something, because while I feel close to getting done with the actual museums (say 75% there,) the gate guard and air park section is going to keep me going for a loooong time.  I appreciate the comment and hope to make it as complete as possible. 

Further progress: I finally figured out how to reset the default view so that it doesn't show Dayton (though that is an appropriate place for an aviation map.)  The key?  Click on "reset default view," which I have seen every day for months since it is in the same menu as the "Save map" command.  Sigh.

In related news, I have dreamed about air museums for the past two nights, so I may need to slow down a bit...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on November 07, 2016, 07:13:53 pm
Wow...what an excellent resource ! Thank you so much.

 :wub:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 08, 2016, 11:44:41 am
Thank you!  I slowed down for a few days due to family life, the election, etc., but I will get back on it this weekend.  Let me know if I've missed any Canadian museums.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 10, 2016, 07:40:13 am
Thanks to the stupidity of the USAF you can scratch the two guardians at RAF Croughton that I mentioned on October 22nd.  :banghead:

Quote
RAF Croughton, actually a USAF communications base, has an F-100D and an F-105G on their gate, although it's difficult to see them from the road as they're quite a way back. Lat-Long 51.99647,-1.18964

They actually SCRAPPED both the F-105 and the F-100, and the Thunderchief was the only one in the UK!!!!  :banghead:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Martin H on November 10, 2016, 07:49:16 am
Thanks to the stupidity of the USAF you can scratch the two guardians at RAF Croughton that I mentioned on October 22nd.  :banghead:

Quote
RAF Croughton, actually a USAF communications base, has an F-100D and an F-105G on their gate, although it's difficult to see them from the road as they're quite a way back. Lat-Long 51.99647,-1.18964

They actually SCRAPPED both the F-105 and the F-100, and the Thunderchief was the only one in the UK!!!!  :banghead:

In fairness to the USAF, it wont have been them that ordered the scrapping. The airframes were the property of the USAF museum.

The contract to maintain them was held by the Midland Air Museum, which normaly only covered external cosmetic maintance.

And I'm betting MAM were asked if they could take them on on indefinite loan. They already have an F-100, and probably couldn't sort out the dismantling and transport for the 105, its also possible that the airframes were structurally unsound meaning that it wasn't viable to try and move them .

So it would have been the USAFM that ordered the scrapping.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 10, 2016, 08:19:32 am
According to the latest 'Aeroplane Magazine', the F-105 was in quite good shape, and just needed a re-paint.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Martin H on November 10, 2016, 09:21:52 am
I said it was possible they were unsound.

I doubt the magazine got that close to the airframes to inspect them internaly to see what state they were in. I know the guys from MAM all had to be security checked for each visit and were escourted at all times while on the base.
So some bod from a UK magazine, however highly regarded is unlikely to get better access than the guys who were hired to keep the two airframes looking ok.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on November 10, 2016, 10:28:47 am
The USAFM is completely under the control of the USAF, and is an official part of the USAF,
so ultimately any determinations regarding asset disposal are a USAF decision.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 12, 2016, 08:02:02 pm
The exact location of the F-4 at the Key West NAS is 24.584964, -81.690046 , still trying to locate the A-5

Ah, got it, just north of the F-4 at 24.585863, -81.690728

And just found a Prowler at 24.582994, -81.689764

And an A-4 at 24.581616, -81.689432
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 12, 2016, 08:23:49 pm
San Antonio de los Banos Air Base, Cuba, there is a selection of different aircraft at 22.859101, -82.515497

Looks like a MiG-17, an A-26, can't see the rest clearly. Can't find a MiG-21.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 12, 2016, 08:34:42 pm
And a correction to Haliburton, Ontario - only one 'L'.  ;)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 12, 2016, 08:45:35 pm
Tuskegee Airman National Historical Museum,
6325 W Jefferson Ave, Detroit, MI 48209, USA
http://www.tuskegeemuseum.org/ (http://www.tuskegeemuseum.org/)

GPS 42.299379, -83.096086
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 13, 2016, 11:57:51 am
Dang, wish I'd known about the Tuskegee one when I was in Detroit a few months ago.  If only someone were putting together a map with these places  ;D

Thanks for all the suggestions, especially the coordinates- that helps so much.  Not that it isn't fun swooping around in Google Earth looking for planes, but it is time-consuming.  I will add and correct things later today.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 13, 2016, 01:26:45 pm
There's a Wessex HC2, XR516, just inside the gate at RAF Shawbury. location 52.792687, -2.656130.

I know for sure because I passed right by it this morning en route to Telford from my daughter's place. She lives right on the base, handy.  ;D She's also The Best Air Traffic Controller in the RAF, not a lot of people know that. (but quite a few on here do..... ;D)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/5540/aE2zJI.jpg)

Nicked from here http://picssr.com/tags/xr516 (http://picssr.com/tags/xr516) it was dark when I went by.....

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 13, 2016, 01:31:06 pm
Also please note my Reply #85 above about RAF Croughton's F-105 and F-100D.

Rather lost in the comments after it is the fact that they're not there anymore and there are NO gate guards at Croughton any more.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 13, 2016, 03:30:55 pm
Yep, PR19_Kit, I saw that they are gone  :-\

I will add the Wessex; I think that is one I have been looking for.  Some are too well camouflaged!  And congrats to your daughter.  Tough, important job.

The Rat, I found the MiG-21 at that base, apparently at the main gate instead of the air park:     22.85488, -82.51333
I see what you saw in the air park, plus an Mi-4, T-6, T-28, T-33, maybe a Twin Beech.  I added/corrected the other stuff you posted.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 14, 2016, 09:23:13 pm
The Rat, I found the MiG-21 at that base, apparently at the main gate instead of the air park:     22.85488, -82.51333
I see what you saw in the air park, plus an Mi-4, T-6, T-28, T-33, maybe a Twin Beech.  I added/corrected the other stuff you posted.

Just took another look, what I said was a MiG-17 actually looks more like a 19.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 15, 2016, 08:18:50 am
I see a 19 (silver, towards the back) and a 17 (camo, almost invisible up front.)  So, front row, left to right: T-33, A-26, MiG-17, probable T-28, probable Twin Beech.  Back row: MiG-19, Mi-4, possible MiG-27 under the tree, probable MiG-23, maybe an O-1 (did they have those?), probable T-6.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 17, 2016, 02:56:21 pm
CFB Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, there are a few aircraft around 50.338731, -105.557586 One is a T-33, the yellow one is a Harvard, the white one may be another Harvard but it's not clear.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on November 23, 2016, 05:25:34 am
Excellent stuff ! I have found a few more, over on my Tank Hunting in Michigan thread.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: perttime on November 23, 2016, 08:52:14 am
MiG-21bis (MG-130) on display, on the Verkkokauppa.com electronics store roof-top observation terace in Jätkäsaari, Helsinki, Finland.
https://goo.gl/maps/ALhjZCA23sp

60°09'22.2"N 24°55'15.0"E

Wikimedia Image:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/MiG-21bis_%28MG-130%29_Verkkokauppa_02.JPG/800px-MiG-21bis_%28MG-130%29_Verkkokauppa_02.JPG)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MiG-21bis_(MG-130)_Verkkokauppa_02.JPG

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kerick on November 23, 2016, 08:28:39 pm
Lansing Illinois Veterans Memorial has a really nice Huey in an action pose.
http://www.lansingveteransmemorial.com/photos
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 24, 2016, 07:06:51 pm
All added, thanks!  Captain Canada, I have been watching that thread and will check back.  Just today I passed a tank destroyer on a Sherman hull (don't remember the model) in Circleville, Ohio.  I go that way often and will get a picture when I can.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 27, 2016, 10:52:46 am
Peterborough, Ontario, F-86 on a pole at 44.338581, -78.313806
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on November 27, 2016, 01:45:19 pm
There's this one outside the USMC Proving Grounds Yuma main gate, and across the road is a display of armoured vehicle and surface to surface missiles

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/kitnut617/Yuma%20Airshow%202013/Yuma2013108_zps9629880e.jpg) (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/kitnut617/media/Yuma%20Airshow%202013/Yuma2013108_zps9629880e.jpg.html)

and outside the USMC base in Yuma there are a number of other jets.

And at the Palm Springs Air Museum there are some other gate guards, an F-14, some others and this one below

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/kitnut617/Yuma%20Airshow%202013/Yuma%20Vacation%202016%201_zpsugmaf40s.jpg) (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/kitnut617/media/Yuma%20Airshow%202013/Yuma%20Vacation%202016%201_zpsugmaf40s.jpg.html)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 27, 2016, 03:59:44 pm
Added, thanks.  Nice shots, Kitnut617.  I'm not sure about the Cobra- I have one at Laguna Army Airfield just north of Yuma- is that the proving grounds?
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: scooter on November 27, 2016, 04:49:13 pm
KACY (Atlantic City IAP, Egg Harbor Twp, NJ)
ANG Base- 39*26'36.66"N 74*35'06396"W
F-16B, F-106B, F-100F
William Hughes Tech. Center 39*26'11.91"N 74*33'23011"W
Beech twin
At 39*27'33.96"N 74*33'28.38"W
747SP, 737-100/200 (Former Air Canada), L-1011 Tristar Fuselage- Used for testing and training by the FAA and Federal Air Marshal Academy

NJ Militia Museum- Sea Girt, NJ
F-4E, F-86, UH-1, AH-1, Various Armor Bits
40*07'23.26"N 74*02'18.95"

JB MDL (McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst)
-Rt 68 Gate: 40*01'00.28"N 74*38'06.81W
 AH-1, M-1, M-60, M-113, 2x SP Arty
-Wrightstown Gate: 40*01'47.60"N 74*37'07.30"W
 UH-1, fUSSR Armor- T72, BMP, 2x MT-LB, CH-53 Sea Stallion
-ANG Circle: 40*01'44.21"N 74*36'41.07"W
 KC-135A, C-141B, F-4E
-ANG Gate: 40*01'28.34"N 74*36'50.92"W
 F-105A, F-86
-McGuire Circle: 40*02'07.61"N 74*35'12.48"W
 P-38 "Pudgy" (Usually)
-Air Terminal Circle: 40*01'40.78"N 74*35'05.75"W
 C-118
Lakehurst NAES 40*01'51.54"N 74*19'04.46"W
F-4, A-4, F-8
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on November 27, 2016, 05:34:11 pm
Added, thanks.  Nice shots, Kitnut617.  I'm not sure about the Cobra- I have one at Laguna Army Airfield just north of Yuma- is that the proving grounds?
Cheers reddfoxx, just did a google search to find out what the place is called and found that it's the Yuma Proving Ground United States Army. Found some photos that show what is there.

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1303&bih=680&q=Laguna+Army+Airfield&oq=Laguna+Army+Airfield&gs_l=img.12..0j0i24k1.1798.1798.0.4554.1.1.0.0.0.0.119.119.0j1.1.0....0...1ac..64.img..0.1.118.fQJo21TwXrQ#hl=en&tbm=isch&q=Gate+vehicle+display+at+Yuma+Proving+Ground+&imgrc=_
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 27, 2016, 06:11:08 pm
That aggressor Navy F 16 is killer. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 27, 2016, 07:27:00 pm
Yeah, the F-16 is sharp.

I found the Cobra and positioned it correctly on the map.  Laguna Army Airfield is apparently part of the proving ground.  And I found a bonus Huey, farther north on the field.

Scooter: man, I just put a whole bunch of listings on the map- now you gave me more!!!  ;D  I will get to them tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on November 28, 2016, 01:23:16 pm
Great stuff guys ! I'm planning a quick tour around Buffalo and Niagara this weekend. The boy has a hockey tourney in Fort Erie, ON.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 28, 2016, 02:00:36 pm
Stumbled across this one on accident. Almost missed it. I was looking at the beatimous Tweets when I saw something in the back ground  . . . .

(http://i.imgur.com/QLxwppB.jpg)


This is at Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls, TX.  That's definitely a Tweet on a pole back there. Seems like it's on one side or other of the runway so should be easily spotted on Google Earth.  (I'll try to find it myself when I return, for now I need to get back work outside on my yard before the sun sets. )
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 28, 2016, 04:04:34 pm
This stuff is like opening Pandora's Box.

I'm back now and looking for that tweet when I found THIS thing off Avenue J pretty close to the runways.

(http://i.imgur.com/8ZQwg4a.jpg)
Check out the Warthog!!

(http://i.imgur.com/a7sIGVj.jpg)


Still looking for the Tweet. According to the info associated with the pic it was taken in 2009.  Maybe the satellite images are from before/after it was taken down or put up.  I'll keep looking. This is better than Where's Waldo?
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 28, 2016, 04:21:32 pm
Jackpot!!

Two for one bonus score!

There's not only a T-37 Tweet but a T-38 Talon, as well!

(http://i.imgur.com/vHZ3xy0.jpg)

These two, with the prop plane (I can't identify it but I'm sure you can or someone can) on J makes three more to add to the Sheppard entry.  :laugh: :laugh:

Cheers!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on November 28, 2016, 08:50:08 pm
This stuff is like opening Pandora's Box.

I'm back now and looking for that tweet when I found THIS thing off Avenue J pretty close to the runways.

(http://i.imgur.com/8ZQwg4a.jpg)
Check out the Warthog!!

(http://i.imgur.com/a7sIGVj.jpg)


Still looking for the Tweet. According to the info associated with the pic it was taken in 2009.  Maybe the satellite images are from before/after it was taken down or put up.  I'll keep looking. This is better than Where's Waldo?

Convair 580?
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on November 29, 2016, 04:26:21 am
I like the chalk markings  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 29, 2016, 07:37:02 am
Great finds!  Yeah, poke around, especially at airports, and there is all kinds of interesting stuff.  I am adding those as we speak, and already had an F-4, F-100, F-105, and F-111 at Sheppard.  Go to 33.97183, -98.51006.  105 to the west, 100 to the east, 111 slightly SE of that and F-4 further south still (the Phantom does not show on Google Earth but someone has posted a pic of it.)

Captain Canada, I see three museums near Buffalo, of course.  No gate guards yet but there must be some; let me know what you find.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 29, 2016, 07:44:09 am
And another group at 33.97117, -98.50468.  T-37, T-38, F-16, F-15.  And a B-52 at  33°58'55.10"N  98°30'42.79"W
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 29, 2016, 07:52:05 am
Oh, and the prop plane is a Convair, but a C-131.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 29, 2016, 09:33:18 am
Great finds!  Yeah, poke around, especially at airports, and there is all kinds of interesting stuff.  I am adding those as we speak, and already had an F-4, F-100, F-105, and F-111 at Sheppard.  Go to 33.97183, -98.51006.  105 to the west, 100 to the east, 111 slightly SE of that and F-4 further south still (the Phantom does not show on Google Earth but someone has posted a pic of it.)

Captain Canada, I see three museums near Buffalo, of course.  No gate guards yet but there must be some; let me know what you find.


THAT DOES IT!!   This place is only 50 miles south of here so I'm road tripping the next time I have free money. The F-111 did it for me. I had no idea they had all this stuff.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on November 29, 2016, 11:46:33 am
You bet Mark ! I've got a route planned, leaving the hotel in Niagara Falls, ON, going to NYANG base and trying my luck, and then a circuitous route down from there, choppers, tank and jets ! Hope to find a few more in between. I'll make sure they are there before I post anything.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on November 30, 2016, 07:58:21 am
Have a great trip!  Looking forward to your finds.  Don't get your hopes up about the ANG base- they won't let even U.S. citizens anywhere near them without a security check well in advance. 

Let me know next time you're down near Ohio and maybe we can go to the Air Force Museum.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on December 05, 2016, 07:35:21 am
EE Lightning gate guardian in Kuwait, Ali Al Salem Air Base, at 29.357550, 47.527941, and another at 29.362751, 47.532042

Three more in a mounted formation at Ahmed Al Jaber air base, 28.944043, 47.807570
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on December 06, 2016, 10:46:20 am
Nice finds, thanks!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on December 11, 2016, 06:39:40 pm
T-33 in The Red Knight colours, Fort Erie, Ontario, at 42.922355, -78.918257
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on December 12, 2016, 03:34:41 am
There's a real De Havilland Canada Beaver displayed in the Spaceport inside the terminal of Calgary International. I'll try to find more about it.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on December 12, 2016, 02:04:17 pm
I never ended up doing my tour...disappointed. The game schedule could have allowed it but it would have been close so I aborted the mission. Next time !
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on December 13, 2016, 08:12:06 am
Bummer, Captain Canada.  I had hoped to go to the USAF Museum in a couple of weeks, but looks like that isn't happening.

I added the T-33 and Beaver, thanks!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on December 18, 2016, 09:18:31 am
Captain Canada: just came across the Buffalo and Erie County Naval and Military Park.  Ships and planes, presumably tanks too.  Off Marine Drive near the river.  42.87741, -78.87961
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on January 11, 2017, 08:34:05 am
We now have more than 2000 aviation sites on the map.  1335 museums, which feels like almost all of them; new finds are few and far between.  596 gate guards and air parks, which are sure to take off, so to speak- there have to be thousands of them out there.  70 other sites including tours and memorials. 

Map here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing)



A poorly cropped preview image:

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/markknapp/mapimage2001.jpg)

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 11, 2017, 09:36:53 am
Fantastic work on this. The most complete listing that I've ever seen.  Sometime this year I plan to go on a little road trip to see some of this stuff.  :bow:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on January 14, 2017, 07:32:51 am
Thank you.  Tell me where you're going and I'll try to look for stuff in the area! 

So far this has been about six months of work (when the baby is napping.)  Not counting years of collecting data here and there... I needed it for my trip planning too, and am using it for that right now.  I think it has pretty much all of the museums.  Lately I've been mainly adding gate guards, and that is slower and will keep me busy for years.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 14, 2017, 10:56:41 am
No real plans yet as I will make the trip revolve around where this stuff is located. Most likely I'll definitely head south to Wichita Falls TX to look at Shepard AFB. If anything is reasonably close to that area... then the more the merrier.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on January 25, 2017, 11:30:07 am
The ships and planes in Buffalo were going to be one of my stops !

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on January 27, 2017, 07:45:52 am
Let me know when you are going and I will try to focus on that area.  Right now we are thinking about going to Florida, so I need to fill in that part of the map...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on February 11, 2017, 10:21:56 pm
Captain Canada, I just added a bunch of gate guards in New York.  Tonawanda, East Aurora, and Hamburg are very close to Buffalo; Shortsville and Hinsdale aren't much farther afield.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: KiwiZac on February 12, 2017, 01:09:33 pm
Happy to help out with New Zealand!

MOTAT's Sir Keith Park Memorial Aviation Display Hall has a replica Hawker Hurricane on a pole as gate guard in Sir Keith Park's markings:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/motat%20hurri_zpsjkyewkwy.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/motat%20hurri_zpsjkyewkwy.jpg.html)

Warbirds & Wheels (http://warbirdsandwheels.com/) at Wanaka has Aermacchi MB.339CB NZ6468 as gate guard.

The National Transport and Toy Museum (http://nttmuseumwanaka.co.nz/) is just up the road from Warbirds & Wheels. They have GAF Canberra A as gate guard and bunch of aircraft as exhibits:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/wanaka%20canberra_zps5awjvkdu.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/wanaka%20canberra_zps5awjvkdu.jpg.html)

DC-3 ZK-CAW is a dining room at McDonald's in Taupo: https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-38.6894214,176.0715217,3a,60y,174.08h,87.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSlch2mW5_vc5xRTg3dp1Aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/taupo%2001_zps2qx74lqi.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/taupo%2001_zps2qx74lqi.jpg.html)

DC-3 ZK-APK (http://www.mangaweka.co.nz/about/dc3-aeroplane) is at "Mangaweka International Aiport" as a roadside cafe at Mangaweka: https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.8100374,175.7872967,226m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/manga01_zpssv7qq9q2.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/manga01_zpssv7qq9q2.jpg.html)

Hallett Griffin has a Transland Ag-2 as gate guard at his private strip at Kairanga: https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Kairanga/@-40.3399433,175.5437082,462m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6d404c36b30ce68f:0x500ef6143a2d190!8m2!3d-40.3481008!4d175.5317807?hl=en (no photo on GE, awkwardly placed to get a photo myself)

The Deer Story Museum (http://deerstorymuseum.co.nz/) has Hughes 369HS ZK-HKK as gate guard at Manakau: https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/1076+State+Highway+1,+Manakau+5573/@-40.714853,175.2158384,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN31ysDyRSgWf7jl2-o9sRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x6d40926966a76951:0xdf00ab203f8d5ee!8m2!3d-40.7147783!4d175.2156844!6m1!1e1?hl=en (no photo yet)

Mil Mi-8 YS-1006P is an office/playroom/gate guard with HeliStar (http://www.helicoptertours.co.nz/) north of Taupo:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/wairakei%20mil_zpsdhb5n1jd.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/wairakei%20mil_zpsdhb5n1jd.jpg.html)

Photos of some of these can be found here: http://nzcivair.blogspot.co.nz/2016/08/aviation-artifacts-along-sh-1.html

I'll be along when/if I think of any others.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: KiwiZac on February 14, 2017, 11:39:06 am
Also! RNZAF Base Ohakea has a DH Vampire FB.5 on gate guard duty. I'm there for the Air Tattoo next weekend so will try to get a photo (I have one somewhere).
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on February 17, 2017, 01:25:24 pm
Nice shots and suggestions- I will try to add them today!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on February 25, 2017, 04:56:06 pm
Great stuff Zac you have some interesting display down there !  The Canberra would be cool to see

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: scooter on February 25, 2017, 06:05:40 pm
Completely forgot.  Greenwood Lake Airport (4N1) has an ex-TWA Constellation N9412H (http://www.conniesurvivors.com/N9412H.htm), currently serving as a flight school office. Video of it landing here (https://youtu.be/2RkC-a4jjxU) (circa 1976)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: KiwiZac on February 26, 2017, 12:12:26 pm
The Canberra would be cool to see

 :thumbsup:
I may....may....go to Wanaka next year if the Mosquito's there. If so I'll pay a visit to the Canberra for you!

I was at Ohakea over the weekend for the Air Tattoo but I only had my phone and couldn't get close enough to snap the Vampire.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: KiwiZac on March 08, 2017, 09:51:30 pm
I DID have an old photo of the Ohakea Vampire!
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/DSC_0001e.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/DSC_0001e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: NARSES2 on March 09, 2017, 06:07:28 am
Now that's nice and looks so much better with the "pilot"  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 09, 2017, 08:22:36 am

Now that's nice and looks so much better with the "pilot"  :thumbsup:


Very true, I don't think I've ever seen a gate guardian with a pilot before, it makes a big difference.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Rheged on March 09, 2017, 09:33:04 am

Now that's nice and looks so much better with the "pilot"  :thumbsup:


Very true, I don't think I've ever seen a gate guardian with a pilot before, it makes a big difference.

 YES! It makes a considerable difference. It seems appropriate that aircraft mounted "in flight" should have a driver, whilst those with their wheels on the ground should not.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on March 09, 2017, 03:12:23 pm

Now that's nice and looks so much better with the "pilot"  :thumbsup:


Very true, I don't think I've ever seen a gate guardian with a pilot before, it makes a big difference.

Funny enough the only other one I can think of was a Hunter F.6. Appropriately enough for this site it was mounted outside the Humbrol factory in Hull for many years and is now at Fort Paull.
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/hunter/survivor.php?id=204
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 10, 2017, 02:11:10 am

Now that's nice and looks so much better with the "pilot"  :thumbsup:


Very true, I don't think I've ever seen a gate guardian with a pilot before, it makes a big difference.

Funny enough the only other one I can think of was a Hunter F.6. Appropriately enough for this site it was mounted outside the Humbrol factory in Hull for many years and is now at Fort Paull.
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/hunter/survivor.php?id=204

I'll bet he was a 72/1 scale Airfix pilot.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on March 10, 2017, 06:54:21 am
Ha! Yes, the pilot makes it much more interesting, really seems to be in flight.  I've never seen one like that.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on March 10, 2017, 08:52:22 am
The CF-116 (F-5) I worked on for the Military Muesum outside display in Calgary has a pilot in it too
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on March 11, 2017, 07:36:49 am
Lots do :

Malton

(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10985479_10206868955548694_6867451154714468445_n.jpg?oh=a8270d57d98099d9f602c2aa4fc64070&oe=592D3EDD)

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 11, 2017, 09:46:10 am
No wonder he landed on a pole though, he hasn't got a Nav to tell him where to go!  ;D
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 11, 2017, 10:42:42 am
I noticed the update to Ft. Sill here. Nice! I had no idea they moved all that up here. A shame, though, because it's still in storage I do believe.... and the BRAC stuff went down 11-12 years ago. I remember well because I worked out there putting in flooring in the new houses they built a few hundred yards from the airfield and this was in 2006. They've had plenty of time to do what they plan so I wonder just what the hold up is. Meanwhile, they've been building tons of new stuff constantly since then so maybe it's just not that high on the list of priorities.

I'd really like to take a closer look at an 88 and a SAM at some point! 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on March 11, 2017, 05:41:11 pm
Well, there's an 88 and an SA-2 at the USAF museum...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 11, 2017, 05:52:54 pm
Dayton, right? I would looove to visit but going to Dayton may as well be boarding a rocket ship to a new planet in my world. I'm pretty much stuck in SW Oklahoma for the time being.  ;D

We have a world class air show that comes to Altus every two years and that's just 60 miles a way and even that has been out of the possibility for years. I hope to go this year.. but...  I have to do some things to my truck first so that I'm not scared to leave the county in it.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on March 11, 2017, 09:27:27 pm
I know that feeling; at least, I have known it plenty.  You just do what you can. 

Get to Dayton some day, you really will love it.  A day or more at Wright-Patt, then there are some Wright Bros sites nearby, the Waco Museum just up the road, and a Packard museum back in Dayton with cool cars and a few aircraft engines.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on March 12, 2017, 12:58:59 am
Something different.
Dromana Drive-In has a half scale (ish) X-Wing on the roof of the ticket koisk.

38°19'49.96" S 144°59'48.75" E
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on March 12, 2017, 05:42:29 am
Does this count  :unsure:

South of Calgary about half way to Lethbridge on Highway 23 is a town called Vulcan  --------

http://urbananomie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/vulcan.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/33914237.jpg

https://albertaep.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/roadshow-vulcan-11212013.jpg
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on March 12, 2017, 08:48:25 am
I have the Enterprise at Vulcan on the map, and also an X-Wing somewhere else (the pic shows it in a built-up area.)  Added the Dromana one, thanks.  Glad to see there are still drive-ins in Australia!  They are getting very rare up here.  My city has a dual-screen one; we went a few years ago and it stays busy, but I'm sad all the others are gone.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on March 13, 2017, 02:41:22 am
There are two drive-ins within convenient driving distance of us.  Dromana is a 15 minute drive,  is open all year round,  has three screens (plus a fourth set up as a "deck chair cinema") and a superb diner.  It could do with resurfacing but I can't see that ever happening.
We go, on average, every couple of months.
http://www.dromanadrivein.com.au

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 13, 2017, 02:44:41 pm
I know that feeling; at least, I have known it plenty.  You just do what you can. 

Get to Dayton some day, you really will love it.  A day or more at Wright-Patt, then there are some Wright Bros sites nearby, the Waco Museum just up the road, and a Packard museum back in Dayton with cool cars and a few aircraft engines.

Woo boy, that does sound like a really delightful time. It would be worth a trip up there for sure! 

The only thing coming close to that level that I've seen is the museum down at Eglin in Ft. Walton Beach/Destin Area but that was nearly 20 years ago and I don't remember much.... but I do remember it was one hell of a glorious place. 

When I was a wee lad around... ohhhhh..... 8 or 9 years old we went to Colorad Springs and I got to see some of the stuff at the AF Academny and my God what a stunning PLACE and as well as PLACE at the PLACE. What I mean is the AF Academy and neat stuff they have is glorious but the geography and scenery of that area is just gorgeous..... Pikes Peak in the distance, beautiful evergreens and mountains, etc.... it's just one beatiful place all around and also worth a trip. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on March 14, 2017, 07:32:02 am
Found a Canberra by accident at Avalon airport Victoria Australia if you don't have that one already.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.0202887,144.4820861,160m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on March 14, 2017, 07:33:29 am
Something different.
Dromana Drive-In has a half scale (ish) X-Wing on the roof of the ticket koisk.

38°19'49.96" S 144°59'48.75" E

Cool. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Flyer on March 14, 2017, 07:43:52 am

Hallett Griffin has a Transland Ag-2 as gate guard at his private strip at Kairanga: https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Kairanga/@-40.3399433,175.5437082,462m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6d404c36b30ce68f:0x500ef6143a2d190!8m2!3d-40.3481008!4d175.5317807?hl=en (no photo on GE, awkwardly placed to get a photo myself)


Not heard of the Transland Ag-2 before and I love Ag aircraft so had to look it up, wow it has LOT'S of dihedral! :o
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on March 14, 2017, 08:01:21 am
The F-102 in Stephenville, NL. Took the pic in April of 2011

(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/216457_1984349894678_4819235_n.jpg?oh=08f522b57fcb7b56e222fe7bbb309c6f&oe=596C3FC4)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: KiwiZac on March 15, 2017, 12:33:28 pm
Not heard of the Transland Ag-2 before and I love Ag aircraft so had to look it up, wow it has LOT'S of dihedral! :o
When I worked for an aircraft engineering company one of the guys - the other young bloke - went down to help Hallett out for a day. He was telling me about the Ag-2 but I couldn't for the life of me figure out what he was describing! And I thought I was a fan! The wings are so thick because they have spray tanks built in.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on March 16, 2017, 08:36:11 am
Added the Canberra, already have the 102.  Thanks, folks. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on April 03, 2017, 07:04:44 pm
Can you use the pic ?
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on April 04, 2017, 08:35:38 am
Can I use the 102 pic, you mean?  Nope, Maps only takes them if they're bigger than 100kb, strangely enough.  But thanks!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on May 08, 2017, 07:22:38 am
There are now more than 2500 sites on the map!  2504 at the moment: 1368 museums, 1016 gate guards and air parks, and 120 other sites (including memorials, planes re-purposed as restaurants, etc.)  I think the museums have about topped out; I'll be surprised if there are more than 1400 in the world.  Gate guards are everywhere, so that section keeps growing. 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 08, 2017, 07:43:19 am
Nice!! A worthy milestone.

I saw some stuff on public television a couple weeks ago... something about museums and I noticed a couple had aviation exhibits but the names of the museums wouldn't indicate that they had anything to do with aviation.  They're probably already listed but if I can find this information again I'll see if anything can be added.

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: zenrat on May 09, 2017, 03:57:27 am
You've done an awesome job there Reddfoxx.
Bravo.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: NARSES2 on May 09, 2017, 06:50:04 am
You've done an awesome job there Reddfoxx.
Bravo.

Indeed, well done sir  :bow:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on May 09, 2017, 07:05:24 am
Thanks very much, folks.  I've slowed down lately, having found most of the museums.  Gate guards will take, well, forever, and are harder to find.  Plus, I've found a few museums while searching for gate guards.  Yes, TheChronicOne, please let me know if you come across those little places again.  Sometimes local historical societies will have interesting exhibits.  I stumbled on the Burbank Historical Society recently and was amazed by their Lockheed collection.  Makes sense that they'd have it, but I'll admit that Burbank makes me think more of television than aviation.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on May 09, 2017, 09:01:44 am
Wow great job and a great asset for us 'hunters' ! Cheers !

 :bow: :drink:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on May 09, 2017, 11:19:27 am
I'm glad it's useful.  I have a few big trips planned this year and have already used it. (Don't tell my wife...) 

PS- I can pull it up on Google Maps on my phone.  Let me know if that works for you.  Not only can I look for nearby restaurants, I can look for nearby planes...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: NARSES2 on May 09, 2017, 12:35:01 pm
Hopefully I'm in the States latter this year and this will come in very handy  ;D
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Steel Penguin on May 09, 2017, 12:40:05 pm
just had a look at the map  reddfoxx,  wow, that's a lot of sites, and all I can do is applaud your effort,   :thumbsup:
splendid job , just splendid.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on May 10, 2017, 07:34:59 am
Thanks, Steel Penguin!

Narses2, there's plenty of stuff from around the world on the map, so hopefully it's useful elsewhere, too.  Living in the U.S., I will admit to focusing some of my effort there, but I'm gathering sources and trying to enter stuff everywhere.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: NARSES2 on May 10, 2017, 01:20:15 pm


Narses2, there's plenty of stuff from around the world on the map, so hopefully it's useful elsewhere, too. 

It is indeed, an amazing piece of work.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on May 11, 2017, 07:52:27 am
Aw, shucks  ;D
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on June 05, 2017, 09:11:26 am
There is a Thunderbird missile at the gate to the former RAF Westcott, located on the A41 between Aylesbury and Bicester. Westcott was home to the Rocket Propulsion Establishment and the Thunderbird booster rockets were developed there.
The remains of the rocket testing sites is fascinating and involves a lot of concrete!

http://www.westcottventurepark.com/westcott-news-the-rocket.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Propulsion_Establishment
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on June 06, 2017, 07:18:43 am
Thanks, I'll add it soon!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Captain Canada on June 11, 2017, 08:53:21 am
That's cool. Thanks for the links as well. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: The Rat on August 11, 2017, 07:18:43 pm
The Edenvale Aerodrome in Ontario, home to the Edenvale Classic Aircraft Foundation, has a MiG-17 mounted outside, 44.443923, -79.962876

Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on August 12, 2017, 03:57:01 pm
On the map; updated the info, thanks!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on August 29, 2017, 02:50:53 pm
Here's a new one for you, an F-35 fibreglass mockup has been installed at Samlesbury next to the English Electric Lightning model.

https://www.ukconstructionmedia.co.uk/videos/bae-install-new-f-35-lightning-ii-gate-guardian-samlesbury/
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 29, 2017, 03:07:34 pm
Until I looked at a linked vid from that one I didn't even realise they were building the F-35 airframes at Salmesbury!  :o
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on August 30, 2017, 06:11:40 am
Cool, thanks!  I had it on there as "coming soon." 

The map now has more than 2800 entries, of which just over 1400 are museums. 
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Rheged on August 31, 2017, 12:52:52 pm
Not sure quite where to post this(mods please move it if you think appropriate).  Not a gate guard but a stained glass window; a memorial to the staff of the Radar Research Establishment  at Malvern and Defford.   It's at Goodrich Castle, overlooking the river Wye, between Monmouth and Ross.  If I can get my act together, I'll try to post pix.  There's a Halifax, Chain Home Aerials and lots of unit crests pictured.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 01, 2017, 05:42:25 am
Cool.  There is a "miscellaneous" section on the map, and I put in memorials when I can find them.  I will add that.  If you have a more exact location, such as a particular building or GPS coordinates, please let me know. 

You might be interested in a Facebook group I just discovered about aviation memorials.  I will post the name and link when I find them.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on September 01, 2017, 09:25:20 am
How do you feel about memorials to aircraft carriers? I have seen a stained glass window for HMS Glorious in a church.

We could go all the way and include the numerous village signs that incorporate aircraft, mostly near to WW2 airfields.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 01, 2017, 09:08:17 pm
Those would be appropriate, I think.  I try to put on anything an aviation history enthusiast would be interested in. 

The memorial group is "Aviation Memorials Worldwide." 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/498946356940323/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/498946356940323/)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on September 02, 2017, 06:42:00 am
At the Nanton Lancaster Museum in Alberta, there's a commemorative wall made of granite which has all the names of RCAF aircrew that were killed during WWII engraved on it. I could send you some photos I took of it when I attended the official unveiling which the Federal Minister for Defence at the time did the honours.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 02, 2017, 08:01:15 am
Wow.  Impressive and sad.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: scooter on September 03, 2017, 05:02:22 am
At the Nanton Lancaster Museum in Alberta, there's a commemorative wall made of granite which has all the names of RCAF aircrew that were killed during WWII engraved on it. I could send you some photos I took of it when I attended the official unveiling which the Federal Minister for Defence at the time did the honours.

Wow.  Impressive and sad.

Tucked away inside a room at the American Air Museum at Duxford, is the names of all 8th AF (IIRC, its been 12 years) who lost their lives flying out of England.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 03, 2017, 07:09:44 am
Wow, again.  I was there a few years ago, but didn't see that.  The wall outside with all the planes (and people) lost made an impression on me.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: kitnut617 on September 03, 2017, 07:43:45 am
I should make a correction, the "wall" has only aircrew listed who were killed while serving in 'Bomber Command', some 10600+. This is because the museum is dedicated to members who served in Bomber Command.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Rheged on September 03, 2017, 10:06:06 am
How do you feel about memorials to aircraft carriers? I have seen a stained glass window for HMS Glorious in a church.

We could go all the way and include the numerous village signs that incorporate aircraft, mostly near to WW2 airfields.

Yup, seen that one in St Peter's church on the Eastern side of Ullswater.......the only way to get an aircraft carrier in a lancet window is a view from above! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Peter%27s_Church,_Martindale  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Peter%27s_Church,_Martindale)

Another for the list is the Sunderland Flying Boat heritage centre at Pembroke Dock.  Memorials to crews and lots of fascinating things to see (and very good coffee too) http://www.sunderlandtrust.com/ (http://www.sunderlandtrust.com/) No actual aircraft, but there's a Civilian Sunderland ....the Solent.... at Solent Sky museum in Southampton  http://www.solentskymuseum.org/ (http://www.solentskymuseum.org/)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 03, 2017, 02:40:14 pm
Thanks.  Added the HMS Glorious window.  The two museums are already on the map.  There are so many I forget what we have...
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 03, 2017, 06:25:51 pm

Another for the list is the Sunderland Flying Boat heritage centre at Pembroke Dock.  Memorials to crews and lots of fascinating things to see (and very good coffee too)

 (http://www.sunderlandtrust.com/)

Inside the nearby Irish Ferries terminal they have lots of pics of the Pembroke Dock area when it was a Sunderland base. The terminal building stands on part of the hardstanding of the base.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 03, 2017, 08:54:10 pm
Added the Irish Ferries terminal to the "miscellaneous" section. Sounds pretty neat.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Rheged on September 05, 2017, 02:05:23 am
This one is perhaps a little unexpected, but worthy of inclusion!!


http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html (http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html)

The Lake District national park people earnestly  request that no attempts are made to repeat this exercise!!!
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 05, 2017, 06:21:14 am
Added!  Thanks for sharing that great story.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 05, 2017, 09:32:03 am
This one is perhaps a little unexpected, but worthy of inclusion!!


http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html (http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html)

The Lake District national park people earnestly  request that no attempts are made to repeat this exercise!!!


And no-one took any photos???  :banghead:
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on September 10, 2017, 04:57:10 am
This one is perhaps a little unexpected, but worthy of inclusion!!


http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html (http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html)

The Lake District national park people earnestly  request that no attempts are made to repeat this exercise!!!

I've seen that plaque before but it proved elusive on my last visit due to the fog! An Avro 585 looks to have been an improved Avro 504R here http://www.yorkshire-aircraft.co.uk/aircraft/lakes/ebph.html

Another one for the map is the Sea King Junglie at Vector Aerospace, Main Road, Gosport, Hampshire.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Rheged on September 10, 2017, 07:03:05 am
This one is perhaps a little unexpected, but worthy of inclusion!!


http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html (http://scafellhike.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-plane-landing-feat-on-helvellyn.html)

The Lake District national park people earnestly  request that no attempts are made to repeat this exercise!!!

I've seen that plaque before but it proved elusive on my last visit due to the fog! An Avro 585 looks to have been an improved Avro 504R here http://www.yorkshire-aircraft.co.uk/aircraft/lakes/ebph.html

Another one for the map is the Sea King Junglie at Vector Aerospace, Main Road, Gosport, Hampshire.

I know exactly what you mean! A group I took up there 4 years ago were tempted to add to it "Nick Culshaw landed here too"  after he tripped over it and went down flat on his face in less than perfect conditions (30 knot fog, with some added  sleet)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 10, 2017, 07:28:07 am
Added the Sea King, thanks, Nick!

I can't claim to have the precise location of that plaque; took my best guess and put it near the summit.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Rheged on September 10, 2017, 07:37:53 am
Not sure quite where to post this(mods please move it if you think appropriate).  Not a gate guard but a stained glass window; a memorial to the staff of the Radar Research Establishment  at Malvern and Defford.   It's at Goodrich Castle, overlooking the river Wye, between Monmouth and Ross.  If I can get my act together, I'll try to post pix.  There's a Halifax, Chain Home Aerials and lots of unit crests pictured.

Added later:-

Pictures  http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/472693]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=goodrich+castle+memorial+window&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibsobV6prWAhWFvRoKHZcuDvwQsAQILA&biw=1366&bih=651#imgrc=rTJXjLSd1aGagM:&spf=1505054043060

Location [url]http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/472693

 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=goodrich+castle+memorial+window&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibsobV6prWAhWFvRoKHZcuDvwQsAQILA&biw=1366&bih=651#imgrc=rTJXjLSd1aGagM:&spf=1505054043060

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Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 10, 2017, 08:53:34 am
Ah, thanks!  Very cool.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on September 10, 2017, 10:02:45 am
If we're doing church windows then we must add in Lincoln Cathedral. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4115631

That spot on Helvellyn will do, people will have to open their eyes and find it themselves!

There's a nice memorial just outside Brighton at Ditchling. When Richard Demetriadi was shot down in the Battle of Britain his parents bought some land there for preservation by the National Trust. You can see for miles out across the English Channel from there.
http://www.bbm.org.uk/airmen/Demetriadi.htm
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 10, 2017, 01:13:28 pm
Is the Ditchling one at 50.90032, -0.10631?  I have it added temporarily till we're sure.

Memorials and windows are certainly relevant.  I started the map and FB group to record all the museums in the world that have aviation exhibits, and have expanded it to include anything that would interest aviation history enthusiasts such as myself.  So, gate guards, memorials, even factory tours and planes converted to restaurants. 

We now have more than 1400 museums, more than 2800 sites total. 

If you're into memorials, you might want to check out the FB group Aviation Memorials Worldwide:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/498946356940323/
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on September 11, 2017, 04:23:41 pm
Is the Ditchling one at 50.90032, -0.10631?  I have it added temporarily till we're sure.


That's close enough for me. There is a little plaque in the circle car park but the actual memorial is a couple of large fields. Maybe you could add some more detail to the description?
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 13, 2017, 06:44:42 am
I moved it up the hill a bit and added a description. Planes are hard enough to find sometimes, but smaller things can be a bear.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 24, 2017, 06:40:56 am
There are now more than 3000 sites on the map.  Just over 1400 museums, and new additions have slowed way down.  Gate guards are trickling in, as I have time to add them, and a few museums pop up while searching for those. 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing)
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: Nick on September 25, 2017, 10:35:19 am
They put a TARDIS on the roof last year, appropriate for a storage firm. http://www.vanguardstorage.co.uk/news/vanguard-self-storage-aircraft-on-display/ and http://www.vanguardstorage.co.uk/news/kevin-cleaning-the-hawker-hunter/

https://londonist.com/2013/09/why-is-there-a-rooftop-fighter-plane-near-perivale
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 26, 2017, 06:16:25 am
Added, thanks.  Thought I had that one, actually. Maybe it was down last time I looked.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 26, 2017, 05:02:07 pm
There are now more than 3000 sites on the map.  Just over 1400 museums, and new additions have slowed way down.  Gate guards are trickling in, as I have time to add them, and a few museums pop up while searching for those. 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YglU7IxTI_xdJtGCPwljGoFWn-8&usp=sharing)


 :cheers:   Nice!! 

I'd like to think that the slow-down is in one way disappointing but.. realistically, it means a thorough job has been done, most things are accounted for, and pretty much only the odd, obscure, and hard-to-find remain.
Title: Re: World aviation museum and gate guard map
Post by: reddfoxx on September 27, 2017, 06:06:18 am
Thanks!

Yep, I think we have pretty much all of the museums.  Gate guards aren't the primary mission of the map, but it's nice to know what aviation displays are nearby when you're traveling.  For example, we were planning a trip from Columbus, Ohio to Pittsburgh.  I saw the John Glenn museum and ended up going there, saw a few gate guards which we ended up bypassing (I sometimes get outvoted,) and stumbled across a Cobra that is now on the map.