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GROUP BUILDS => Asiarama => The Builds - WWII : 1/3/1939 to ???? => Topic started by: Captain Canada on November 20, 2013, 02:09:26 pm

Title: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Captain Canada on November 20, 2013, 02:09:26 pm
Almost done with this pair, so figured I'd toss up a few pics. And somebody was asking.....

Had to glue down a pair of styrene strips to lift the Malcolm hood, as well as cut down part of the cockpit to get my lost and found glass to fit.....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/boom1_zps5568957d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/boom1_zps5568957d.jpg.html)

The pair of them upside down, showing their tail hook arrangement. mounted at the trailing edge of the flaps and controlled by the same actuator. The hooks themselves were fashioned from wing leading edge fences from a hawk ( maybe ?)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/boom2_zpsa7f89ca5.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/boom2_zpsa7f89ca5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Logan Hartke on November 20, 2013, 02:37:03 pm
Carrier Boomerangs?!?!  That is SO right.  It's really quite practical, too.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/SNJ_landing_on_USS_Monterey_1953.jpg/757px-SNJ_landing_on_USS_Monterey_1953.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: The Rat on November 20, 2013, 02:56:19 pm
Works a treat!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Old Wombat on November 20, 2013, 11:55:52 pm
Navy Boomerangs!

AWESOME!!!  :party: :bow:

As Logan said, SO right!

And they're so small you could probably get 3 into the space occupied by any 2 other naval aircraft (apart from the F4F, perhaps).

:cheers:

Guy
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: NARSES2 on November 21, 2013, 07:35:29 am
Oh I like those  :bow:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Dizzyfugu on November 21, 2013, 08:31:55 am
Navy Boomerangs!

AWESOME!!!  :party: :bow:
As Logan said, SO right!

Second that!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Captain Canada on November 21, 2013, 08:47:53 am
Thanks guys. And thanks for the pic Logan ! That is awesome ! I wonder if that's over Lake St. Clair ?

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: royabulgaf on November 21, 2013, 03:34:07 pm
Since I don't see any AA guns along the side, and the deck seems to be closer to the water than most carriers, I suspect it is a photo of one of the USN training carriers, the Badger or Wolverine, that operated in Lake Michigan.
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Captain Canada on November 21, 2013, 03:41:35 pm
Ya...Lake Michigan ! I was thinking of St. Clair as they fished some a/c out of it a few years back, but they were flying from Selfridge ANG base and not from a carrier. I'll have to google those names as the number is visible on the deck.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Captain Canada on November 21, 2013, 04:07:16 pm
So far I have come up with Sable and Wolverine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Sable_(IX-81)

Deck numbers aren't matching up....so was there a third ? And check out that drone ! Never heard of it !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Captain Canada on November 21, 2013, 06:02:46 pm
Having lost the 'bits' sprues I quickly eyed up and cut out a pair of oleo covers.....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/d3_zps5633ccc3.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/d3_zps5633ccc3.jpg.html)

And this is my question : I had prepared this bomb ( from a Kittyhawk ) but wonder if it would be overkill for the small Boomerang ? Also, since these guys will be protected by F.22s, the 'green' one wouldn't need to be a fighter anymore....can I put rocket rails on it with the wings folded ? Might add a little more 'omph' to the pretty basic folded look. And distract you from the obvious shortcuts I took in hacking and folding them....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/d2_zps5b8cc255.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/d2_zps5b8cc255.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Old Wombat on November 21, 2013, 08:42:33 pm
Sorry, F.22's? When are these operational? :blink:

During WW2 Boomerangs were mostly used for CAS, rather than as fighters, because, with only an un-supercharged 1,200 hp Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp engine, they were quite under-powered.

The version you have is the CA12, armed with 2 x 20mm Hispano-Suiza cannon (locally produced from a reverse-engineered souvenir) & 4 x .303 Browning machine-guns (the CA13 was armed with 4 x 20mm cannon), bombs could be carried but only if the drop tank wasn't - which was probably related to the lack of power.

Later supercharged & up-engined (1,700 hp Wright Cyclone R-2600) variants (CA14/14A) weren't put into production as Spitfires & Mustangs were coming into RAAF service in the Asia/Pacific Theatre.

I would suggest you stick with either the bomb or the rockets but not both.

Re: rockets on the folded wings. I can't see why not, that depends more on the fold strength that wing strength & you've only got 2 rockets per wing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_Boomerang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_Boomerang)

:cheers:

Guy
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Old Wombat on November 21, 2013, 09:27:17 pm
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/SNJ_landing_on_USS_Monterey_1953.jpg/757px-SNJ_landing_on_USS_Monterey_1953.jpg)

This would be a SNJ landing on USS Monterey in 1953 (I cheated, I looked at the url. ;D ).

:cheers:

Guy

PS: I've figured out you're talking about the Supermarine Spitfire F.22, not the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, but... why Spitfires & not Seafires? :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: comrade harps on November 22, 2013, 05:00:27 am
A carrier Boomerang. Never thought of that.  :banghead:

Looking good.
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Captain Canada on November 22, 2013, 05:14:37 am
Thanks for the help Guy !

Originally they were going to be a land based and sea based pair. Then I mixed up the paint schemes on the 2.....

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?
Post by: Logan Hartke on November 22, 2013, 06:29:04 am
This would be a SNJ landing on USS Monterey in 1953 (I cheated, I looked at the url. ;D ).

Indeed.  Since the Boomerang was Texan-derived, I was just pointing out that it was a practical concept.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Old Wombat on November 22, 2013, 07:49:08 am
Absolutely, Logan! :thumbsup:

My main point, however, was the ship - as others had been trying to work out which ship the Texans were landing on. (I had actually forgotten the SNJ/Texan link, having forgotten that the Wirraway was pretty much a licenced copy of that particular aircraft.)

Also, increasing the strength of the landing gear for carrier op's (should they have decided to) would have opened the way to using the 1,850 hp Pratt & Whitney R-2800 (trialed on the CA14A), which was manufactured under licence in Australia, rather than the Wright Cyclone R-2600, which had problems with delivery reliability, as they came by convoy from the US. Thus, the CA14A (which eventually reverted to the Twin Wasp but with a GE turbo-supercharger, giving a 25%-30% increase in speed) could have gone into production in a navalised form (CA14N?).

:cheers:

Guy

Note: The risk of undercarriage failure due to the weight of the R-2800 was another reason that the CA14A never went into production. With navalised landing gear - no problem! Although a turbo-supercharged Wright Cyclone R-2600 might have been the better option.
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Old Wombat on November 22, 2013, 07:53:31 am
Anyway, I'm getting a little carried away here. So, I shall now shut up & let the modelling resume! :party:

Thank you for your patience! :bow:

:cheers:

Guy
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: NARSES2 on November 22, 2013, 07:55:52 am
Capt my view re armament is to go with 4 rockets and a smaller bomb ? Maybe a 250lb or a couple of small fragmentation types for "deck clearance" ?
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Captain Canada on November 22, 2013, 08:48:20 am
Thanks for the comments guys. It certainly does help ! My navalized bird ( my necessity, as I lost the 'real' bits ) has a larger propeller ( for the more powerful engine, just have to pick one ;-) and the landing gear is stubbier and sturdier.

I might find a smaller bomb for it...or just leave it sans bomb....but I will probably add the rockets to the folded wing.

Cheers !

Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: royabulgaf on November 22, 2013, 12:22:13 pm
Yeah, the other carrier I was thinking of was the Sable, not Badger.*
I took another look at the photo to try to read the number, and I started wondering what the elevator was doing there.






*The USN was offered another another lake ship, the Badger, that was used mostly for cattle hauling and was in pretty sorry shape.  The Navy informed the owners that they don't need no stinking Badgers ;D 
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Captain Canada on November 27, 2013, 04:52:05 pm
LOL....good one  ;D

A quick note on the armament : Dropping the bomb ( get it ? ) and might add the belly tank, as it is a ground pounder and doesn't really need the maneuverability.

I have almost finished the rockets. Going to add some wee bits of thread to the end to act as fuses. Here\s the technique for quick and easy yellow bands on the tips of pointy things. I might have learned it right here on this very forum !

Paint the whole thing :
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/r1_zpse9789d4f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/r1_zpse9789d4f.jpg.html)

Use a flat brush to add yellow to the desired depth:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/r2_zps544a3f6f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/r2_zps544a3f6f.jpg.html)

Use the same flat brush to add the green tip again, and voila ! Stripes !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/r3_zpsd4a7592a.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/r3_zpsd4a7592a.jpg.html)

The whole mob :
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/buzzhemply/qfucking4_zpsa8b8d978.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/buzzhemply/media/qfucking4_zpsa8b8d978.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Father Ennis on November 27, 2013, 04:59:55 pm
We need more pictures !!!   :dalek:  I just love the Boomaring . I've always thought it looked like it just flew out of a war time comic.   BTW, great tip you've given. So simple but so hard to come up with when you need it !!!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Captain Canada on November 27, 2013, 05:00:10 pm
Thanks Father ! They actually don't look that crappy in real life....

 :banghead:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: NARSES2 on November 28, 2013, 07:53:15 am
I like those Capt. Like your way of doing the tip rings  :thumbsup: I use thin transfer strip
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ? A Question of armaments
Post by: Captain Canada on December 31, 2013, 03:46:05 pm
Thanks Chris. I packed these two little beauties away today in prep for our big party tomorrow....was afraid they'd get smashed up !

I plan on borrowing a camera in the new year and taking care of business as they say...in regards to a bunch of finished kits who's threads need to be closed out.

 :tornado: :drink: :party: :blink:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Captain Canada on September 15, 2016, 06:37:24 pm
Holy.....long time coming. Guess I couldn't find the camera or somat.

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Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Captain Canada on September 15, 2016, 06:40:30 pm
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14291862_10210753890909650_4468604346204155249_n.jpg?oh=cdcb706869bc0b3a57f90808e85ac654&oe=587D5A18)

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Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Captain Canada on September 15, 2016, 06:41:13 pm
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Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Flyer on September 15, 2016, 08:19:25 pm
Malcolm hood looks a treat, both look great. :wub: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Old Wombat on September 16, 2016, 01:55:51 am
Sweet! Naval Boomerangs*! :wub: :thumbsup:





* This is correct. ;)
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: zenrat on September 16, 2016, 02:03:07 am
Look at that, they came back...

Looking good there cap'n.
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Captain Canada on September 16, 2016, 04:08:40 am
Look at that, they came back...

Looking good there cap'n.

Good one ! 3 years later too  :thumbsup:

Thanks guys !

Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: NARSES2 on September 16, 2016, 06:53:55 am
Look at that, they came back...



Seriously ??????? Did you emigrate on a purely voluntary basis or were the Joke Police after you ?  ;D

Well worth the wait Captain, cracking builds. Given me thoughts for a Boomerang or 2 I have in the stash - Airfix and SH
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: DogfighterZen on September 16, 2016, 12:24:45 pm
Malcolm hood looks a treat, both look great. :wub: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Totally agree with you, both look great, but i like the Malcom hooded one best. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: zenrat on September 18, 2016, 05:28:57 am
Look at that, they came back...



Seriously ??????? Did you emigrate on a purely voluntary basis or were the Joke Police after you ?  ;D

Well worth the wait Captain, cracking builds. Given me thoughts for a Boomerang or 2 I have in the stash - Airfix and SH

You're only sore I beat you to it...

Can we have a sticking out tongue emoticon please?
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Flyer on September 18, 2016, 06:05:46 am
Can do that manually :P : P without a space :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: NARSES2 on September 18, 2016, 07:08:06 am
Can do that manually :P : P without a space :thumbsup:

Yea, but it dosen't put hands up to side of head, open palms and waggle fingers  ;D
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: zenrat on September 20, 2016, 05:05:45 am
Or go "ner ner ne-ner ner"
:P
Thanks Brad.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: zenrat on September 20, 2016, 05:07:41 am
What do you call a desert that comes back to you?


A Boomeringue.


I'll get me coat...
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: NARSES2 on September 20, 2016, 07:22:02 am
I'll grab your hat for you  :banghead:
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 20, 2016, 09:03:29 am
What do you call a desert that comes back to you?


A Boomeringue.


I'll get me coat...

Being VERY pedantic, that should be 'dessert'. A returning desert would be a sandstorm..........  ;D
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: zenrat on September 21, 2016, 04:38:15 am
Thank you Kit.  Mea Culpa.
I would have put "pudding" but then someone would have pointed out that strictly applies only to steamed desserts.  And "sweet" has only really ever been used by my Grandmother IME.
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 21, 2016, 12:46:18 pm
Thank you Kit.  Mea Culpa.
I would have put "pudding" but then someone would have pointed out that strictly applies only to steamed desserts.  And "sweet" has only really ever been used by my Grandmother IME.

Hehehehe, I'm all for pudding! As Mrs_PR19  will confirm.  ;D
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: zenrat on September 22, 2016, 03:28:15 am
I do a mean Sussex Pond Pudding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sussex_pond_pudding).  Takes 4 hours to steam but it's worth the wait.
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 22, 2016, 12:08:16 pm
I do a mean Sussex Pond Pudding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sussex_pond_pudding).  Takes 4 hours to steam but it's worth the wait.

I wasn't hungry until I read that Wiki link..........  ;D
Title: Re: Boomerangs. Or is it Boomeri ?Finished !
Post by: Rheged on September 23, 2016, 07:02:30 am
I do a mean Sussex Pond Pudding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sussex_pond_pudding).  Takes 4 hours to steam but it's worth the wait.

Thank goodness I'm reading this AFTER a considerable lunch, otherwise I'd be drooling all over the keyboard.