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GROUP BUILDS => Themed Build Repository => Topic started by: Nils on January 04, 2009, 03:30:31 am

Title: The great war GB
Post by: Nils on January 04, 2009, 03:30:31 am
being a memeber here for quie a while, ive noticed that the WW1 era weapons dont get to much attention in the field of group builds, so i was thinking why not create a Group Build for it.

there re plenty of World War 1 models out there, and scratchbuilding them isnt that hard, as most designs were quite simple.

everthing could be elligable, from Planes and tanks, to ships and figures.

who knows, maybe we could see some Fokker D VII's in Danish markings, Vimy bombers in canadian markings, some Belgian, german, french tanks, ships (i think revell release a 1/350 S.M.S emden kit)
maybe introduce the aircraft carrier a little earlier  :lol:

i think this could be an interesting GB  :mellow:
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: JoeP on January 04, 2009, 08:58:00 am
I have considered a WW1 carrier. The Royal Navy did have HMS Argus by the end of the war; what if they'd finished her a few months earlier?
What if the USN had continued experimenting after the initial tests by Glenn Curtis? The Navy's initial objection was that the platform interfered with the guns of the big ships, but what if they'd tried an older cruiser, one with its guns mounted in casements along the sides?
Germany might have considered using the battlecruiser Seydlitz, heavily damaged at Jutland, once they learned of the RN's work on HMS Furious. Imagine the first carrier vs. carrier battle occurring in September 1918 - HMS Furious and Vindictive against the Seydlitz!
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Daryl J. on January 04, 2009, 09:08:20 am
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Just remember, stuff from Dubdub-one seems to take extra time to construct if it's an aircraft.



Daryl J.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Mossie on January 04, 2009, 10:19:03 am
I mentioned that Camel kit that the missus bough me a little while ago, this thread might give me the kick up the arse I need to build it.  I'm particularly interested in the Swallow you mentioned Daryl.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Taiidantomcat on January 04, 2009, 10:37:56 am
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3676/f14lozenge2ql4.jpg)

Count me in.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Daryl J. on January 04, 2009, 08:34:12 pm
(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/england/sopwith_swallow.jpg)


There was another similar version.     Some day the HC 1/32 scale Camel will get the conversion into a spurious world, but not for the time being.    Don't you love that little beastie?



Daryl J.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Mossie on January 05, 2009, 03:05:39 am
Yeah, I loved it when you first posted it.  I'm kind of having trouble sourcing a wing for it, I thought I might be able to re-shape Eindecker and scratch an insert but the only one I know of is Revells old kit which is suprisingly hide to find in 1/72.  It's about time a lot of WWI aircraft kits were re-kitted in injection.

I've got to admit, I probably wouldn't have been interested had the missus not bought me the Camel kit, that alone has helped spark a little interest at least.  Before then, I mostly saw bi-planes as a vaguely interesting prelude to the monoplane & they never really got my heart beating quickly.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Sisko on January 05, 2009, 06:04:56 pm

From an armour perspective some of the stuff on the drawing boards around the end of the war were very interesting.

Plan 1919 certainly would have seen some these proposals made real. One thing about WW1 was that many drawing board ideas became reality because both sides were eager for that all inportant "breakthrough"
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 07, 2009, 01:50:20 pm
I'd be up for this one! It might be a good idea to send a PM to Comrade Anthony the Group Build Commisar and see what needs done to get it added to the GB poll.
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Nils on January 16, 2010, 04:25:20 am
BUMP:

just a quick idea, i was gonna propose a WW1 GB, but then i realised i already did.
ive been playing with a couple of ideas lately and came up with the following.

-biplane version of the Fokker Dr1.
-bomber version of the Fokker M.V (E.III monoplane), a concept using 3 1/72 E.III kits to create a twin boom, twing engine monoplane bomber for Germany (better get 3 revell kits for this one  ;D)

EDIT: made a quick design sketch  :mellow:
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Taiidantomcat on January 16, 2010, 04:43:42 pm
Sweet  :wub:
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on January 16, 2010, 10:07:41 pm

-biplane version of the Fokker Dr1.


That would be the D.6, Dr.1 fuselage and D.7 type wings.
http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20D6.html
V.9 was the first of a series of prototypes for the D.6
http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20V9.html

(http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/pictures/Fokker/Military/Fokker%20V13.jpg)
V.13 prototype

Fokker did have the M.9 twin-engined, twin-fuselage experimental made from two M.7 biplanes, so your concept is not far off his own thinking:
(http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/pictures/Fokker/Military/Fokker%20M9%20with%20car.jpg)
http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20M9.html

http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20Fokker%20Military%20Aircrafts.html


Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: NARSES2 on January 17, 2010, 02:30:38 am
Well I do have plans for some Plan 1919 armour builds this year, so they would fit
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Radish on January 17, 2010, 07:59:20 am
Got a Camel Sesqui-plane on the bench for Israeli service...1922.

Got a Camel on the bench for WW1 Biggles....

Got an SE5A on the bench....Biggles stories, as flown by Wilks

Got a Fokker D.7.75 on the bench.....1919 German.
Got a Whippet nearly finished (Biggles)

Got a WW1 car nearly finished....Biggles!!
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: pyro-manic on January 17, 2010, 12:39:59 pm
I've a couple of ideas for this:

HMS Leopard (IJN Kongo adapted for the Royal Navy)
Airships! - A couple of big bombers, either British, German or Austro-Hungarian.
Plus maybe a landship or two.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: JoeP on February 28, 2010, 07:10:28 pm

http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20Fokker%20Military%20Aircrafts.html


Thanks for that link! It'll help me with the Patchwork World Dutch city-states.

That WW1 twin fuselage is inspiring.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on February 28, 2010, 09:54:53 pm

That WW1 twin fuselage is inspiring.

Ever see the Blackburn T.B. ?
It was not pilot friendly.  ;D

(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/england/blackburn_tb.gif)

http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/blackburn_tb.php

Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on March 01, 2010, 01:27:39 pm
And also a heroic failure, so if you get really enthusiastic about it, you'e got another GB it'd fit into :thumbsup:

Re WW1; I've seen various old magazine covers which depict ww1 era planes firing death rays - SF mags mostly, but the odd thing like Popular Mechanics etc.
Also; on Major General Tremordan-Reddering's Colonial Era Wargames Site, there's a battle report involving Germans discovering the lost world, and using Dinosaurs as armor...
The battle (page three wherein the beasty emerges) (http://www.zeitcom.com/majgen/863ouazu3.html)
The beasty himself (http://www.zeitcom.com/majgen/867ksaurus.html)
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on March 01, 2010, 03:04:10 pm
I'd be totally up for this one! How many of you would be interested in participating?
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: NARSES2 on March 02, 2010, 02:32:23 am
You can count me in for some 1919 armour  ;D
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Mossie on March 02, 2010, 03:13:50 am
Re WW1; I've seen various old magazine covers which depict ww1 era planes firing death rays -

There was definately some experimentation around WWI, connected to early radar studies.  There could be heat generated when certain rays were focused, but it was impractical to scale up into a weapon (something that's still a problem now).  Stretch the technology a bit (discovery of an exoitic energy source, crashed alien spacecraft etc.) & you could have death ray cannons mounted on aircraft, tanks, ground emplacements, although I particularly like the idea of ground bombardment by Airship.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Daryl J. on March 04, 2010, 02:11:27 pm
I'd sure like to do an Albatros Parasol Ice fighter....D.V  on skis or ice rails and the Marconi-equipped Bristol Fighter someday that's for sure.

Cheers,
Daryl J.
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Radish on March 21, 2010, 02:32:54 am
Yep!! :drink: :party:
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Nils on March 21, 2010, 02:35:43 am
Aircraft Carrying zeppelins  ;D
imagine a Hindenberg with a flight deck on its roof and up to 10 Fokker DVII's  :lol:
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Nils on October 28, 2012, 01:01:32 pm
Great Bump.


just had a thought and remembered this topic.

in 2014, we will remember the start of World War 1, 100 years ago. and i was thinking that maybe we could revive this GB idea in memory if it?
over the years more and more WW1 models have been released by Revell, Airfix,.....and propably more will be released by that time.
so maybe we can add a number of other lesser known factions to the war, like Switserland, Sweden, Yugoslavia (where it all began).

we could have it run for a year (January to December 2014) or for 3.5 months as a theme build (suggesting in 2014 from 28 July to November 11, the days that the war started and ended in 1914 and 1918)

just a thought  :unsure:
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: NARSES2 on October 29, 2012, 04:36:17 am
It's a good thought Nils. There will be a lot of commemorative events over that 5 years
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: perttime on October 29, 2012, 06:12:11 am
... a bit closer to home for me, there was also the Finnish Civil War, in that period in 1918. One of the major battles was fought near where I'm sitting now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_civil_war#Battle_of_Tampere
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: coolpop6307 on October 29, 2012, 07:46:42 pm
I would be interested in this especially since I just got done reading a book about early aviation and I now know allot about the early planes or as they called them "flying machines" and it would be good to do it on the 100 anniversary

 Thanks
   Joshua
Title: Re: The great war GB
Post by: Doc Yo on November 20, 2012, 10:30:49 am
 I like the 'start to finish' dates idea...but I could also get behind a four-year GB.