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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2018, 01:46:33 am »
the 12 stars ina  blue roundel seems pretty straight forward, but an Osean AF slyle roundel would look pretty cool.

another idea is a USAF style roundel with a yellow star in a blue circle with bleu/yellow wings on each side.
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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2018, 05:31:37 pm »
I did wonder about a US-style winged star, but I couldn't see the Europeans ever doing that...

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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2018, 01:14:57 am »
...and it's very similar to this:



Not certain if a copy of the Congolese Air Force would be something the EU would strife for?

As another idea: I could also imagine something more abstract and symbolic, like the NATO roundel:


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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2018, 03:26:12 am »
I went with the 12-pointed star because of the following;

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The Council of Europe gave the 1955 flag a symbolic description in the following terms:

    Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars represent the peoples of Europe in a circle, a symbol of unity. Their number shall be invariably set at twelve, the symbol of completeness and perfection.
    — Council of Europe. Paris, 7–9 December 1955

The official symbolic description adopted by the EU omits the reference to the "Western world".

The number of stars on the flag is fixed at twelve, representing "perfection and completeness" (in the original French: symbole de la perfection et de la plénitude). It is not related to the number of member states of the EU (although the EU happened to have 12 member states at the time of Maastricht Treaty).

Twelve stars are too many for a roundel but a single 12-pointed star is do-able.
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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2018, 05:48:12 am »
A 12-pointed gold star on a blue circle.

It'd look a bit like the Taiwanese Air Force roundel:



But then again, it's certainly not the same and they're a long way from Europe.


Quote from: wikipedia
The Council of Europe gave the 1955 flag a symbolic description in the following terms:

    Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars represent the peoples of Europe in a circle, a symbol of unity. Their number shall be invariably set at twelve, the symbol of completeness and perfection.
    — Council of Europe. Paris, 7–9 December 1955

The official symbolic description adopted by the EU omits the reference to the "Western world".

The number of stars on the flag is fixed at twelve, representing "perfection and completeness" (in the original French: symbole de la perfection et de la plénitude). It is not related to the number of member states of the EU (although the EU happened to have 12 member states at the time of Maastricht Treaty).

What makes twelve in particular "the symbol of completeness and perfection"? Since Europe is famously the home of the metric system, wouldn't ten have been more appropriate?
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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2018, 06:20:34 am »


What makes twelve in particular "the symbol of completeness and perfection"? Since Europe is famously the home of the metric system, wouldn't ten have been more appropriate?

Beyond bureaucratic blether, I haven't a notion.  In fact in number theory 12 is only semiperfect!

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/semiperfect-number/

6 and 28 are perfect though...

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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2018, 06:43:08 am »
How about this?

It works as a roundel from a distance as per Old Wombat's 12-point star suggestion, but it also gets the standard EU 12 stars in. You could make the blue circle a bit bigger than the yellow star if you wanted.

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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2018, 06:52:05 am »
Modified version. Yellow star 10% smaller, blue stars the same size. I like this one better.

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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2018, 07:04:23 am »
Hmmm - it's quite similar to the Malaysian AF roundel:



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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2018, 10:33:15 am »
How about this?




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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2018, 11:52:15 am »
Oh!  I like that.  Perhaps inverted so it looks like spread wings...?

It has nice synergy* with the EU military shoulder patches, with the addition of the wings.

Would convert well to low-viz too; omit the yellow outlining, convert the blue to dark grey and the stars to white.


* yes I just used corp-speak :(
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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2018, 05:01:49 am »
That's pretty, and quite unique.  :thumbsup:

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Re: European Union Air Force roundel
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2018, 08:23:23 am »
I quite fancy that on a t-shirt, without any words of explanation!