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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2018, 08:56:27 am »
The 432's resemblance to the Mosquito is always striking.  So here's playing with people's minds - Mossie with Spitfire wings in lieu of Mosquito outer wings, plus an under fuselage gun pack?

Mosquito:
Crew: 2: pilot, navigator/radar operator
Length: 41 ft 2 in (12.55 m)
Wingspan: 54 ft 2 in (16.52 m)
Height: 17 ft 5 in (5.3 m)
Wing area: 454 ft2 (42.18 m2)
Empty weight: 13,356 lb (6,058 kg)
Loaded weight: 17,700 lb (8,028 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 18,649 lb (8,549 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce Merlin 21/21 or 23/23 (left/right) liquid-cooled V12 engine, 1,480 hp (21 & 23) (1,103 kW) each

Type 432:
Crew: one pilot
Length: 39 ft 3 in (12 m)
Wingspan: 56 ft 10.5 in (17.34 m)
Height: 4.19 m (13 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 450 ft² (41.8 m²)
Empty weight: 7,427 kg (16,373 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 9,150 kg (20,168 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce Merlin 61 V12 piston engines, 1,520 hp (1,133 kW) each

Dimensionally not much in it.  Am tempted.  Mossie would need pressure cabin, of course - the PR XVI and others had them and outperformed the 432.

Or mess up the muggles by finishing the 432 in Mosquito PR colours rather than high altitude fighter colours?
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2018, 02:30:05 am »
Interesting thoughts Dave  :thumbsup:


Or mess up the muggles by finishing the 432 in Mosquito PR colours rather than high altitude fighter colours?

That thought had crossed my mind at least once or twice, but I think I'm going to stay with the fighter, if only because the gun pack is moulded with the lower fuselage half  :rolleyes:

However If I picked up a second example ? The likelyhood of that is closely linked to how well the wings/nacelles/fuselage fit on this example.
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2018, 05:56:25 am »
Really looking forward to this Chris, you've got some great GB ideas on the go.
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2018, 07:03:21 am »
I started the one I have Chris, but it's one of those which I did before my house move (now over 11 years ago) and it got boxed and I've not seen it since  ----  I really need to get on with some of these projects I've started ---   :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Yesterday I found it while looking for something else ---   :o  Looks like I got the wings and nacelles glued together but that's as far as it got -- hmm!
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2018, 04:26:39 pm »
Whoa.. I never seen such a plane before!!  Fantastic, go for the gusto.  :mellow: :mellow:

How do you go about filing and sanding on resin??  I heard one doesn't want to be breathing the particles.  Frankly, I'm kind of scared of mine now.
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2018, 11:28:23 pm »

How do you go about filing and sanding on resin??  I heard one doesn't want to be breathing the particles.  Frankly, I'm kind of scared of mine now.


Same as with styrene, but ensure that it's done wet. Well, the sanding phase that is anyway. Some resins are sifter than the putty so you need to be more careful, take it lightly and you'll be OK. Above all do it WET!
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2018, 07:31:44 am »
Exactly as Kit says. Use plenty of water and be aware that resin is softer than styrene and thus if not careful you end up sanding away far to much. It some ways resin is easier to work with and in others it's more fiddly, you just have to get in the right mindset.

Best advice I would give is to start with a resin replacement part or conversion piece. Then you've not wasted to much time/money/effort if you don't get on with it.

Anyway the fuselage is together and the Araldite smell is still dissipating  ;) Some filling will be needed at both ends.
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2018, 10:30:45 am »
Thank you, guys. I have this lil feller here and have been tempted by it more than once.

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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2018, 10:39:36 am »
Thank you, guys. I have this lil feller here and have been tempted by it more than once.



Is it purely coincidental that it looks like a Meteor had something to do with that?  :o
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2018, 12:03:49 pm »
Illegitimate son/daughter (??) of a Meteor and a Fouga Magister (look at the pilots cockpit)??
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2018, 06:45:32 am »
I've never seen either that model or heard about the real aircraft.

You learn something new every day if only you open your mind to new ideas  :thumbsup:
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2018, 06:57:03 am »
I've never seen either that model or heard about the real aircraft.

You learn something new every day if only you open your mind to new ideas  :thumbsup:

Just looked the actual aircraft up on Wiki - totally agree with you Chris - something new every day.....and wasn't it small!  :o
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2018, 08:15:03 am »
Here is another kit of one of the Ikarus 451 series, in this case the 451M.
It is 1/72 and has a wingspan of 3 ¾ inch/9.5 cm.
I got this from the makers who had a stand at SMW about three years ago.













I realy must get round to building it sometime.
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2018, 06:47:32 am »
Neat looking little kit Jim.

Anyway progress on the Vickers.

Couple of shots of the goldfish bowl cockpit





A shot of the fuselage showing the “bowing”



After the edition of the tailplanes and the warm water treatment



The wing/nacelle parts. The Mr Surfacer on the nacelles is to cover a few pin holes, the only ones I have so far discovered. A few more appeared after some p.s.r.



8 individual prop’ blades  :unsure:



I found a couple of old Frog Hornet spinners and props and the spinners are exactly the right size  :thumbsup: Slightly more pointed but a couple of swipes with a sanding sponge dealt with that. Blades are the right size but shape is a little different. I can live with that, so no gluing 8 separate blades  :thumbsup:
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Re: Vicker's High Flyer
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2018, 08:02:51 am »
That fuselage bow looks horrendous Chris, a nice job on straightening it.   :thumbsup:

How warm does the water need to be to work well please? Every time I try it I either get it too hot and it goes all floppy, or it's too cold and nothing happens.
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