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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2018, 08:13:54 am »

 I've also seen people do it with wood to try and determine hard wood or soft wood ?


Doesn't work worth a light with balsa, it's a hard wood and weighs naff all.  ;D
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2018, 08:22:10 am »
What is it about that, anyway?! I seem to recall hearing an explanation but I've forgotten it if I have.


Balsa wood furniture would make moving easy. (so help me God if I ever have to move again I'm paying someone else to do it. )   I saw something the other day that had examples of PURPLE wood... it looked nice and heavy but would make some snazzy wares!
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2018, 09:45:23 am »
Balsa furniture would indeed be very light, but it's not that strong either.

IIRC they used balsa furniture for filming Western bar brawls as it could be thrown about easily and looked terrific when it was broken over the bar, or someone's head..........  ;D
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2018, 10:24:19 am »
Balsa furniture would indeed be very light, but it's not that strong either.

IIRC they used balsa furniture for filming Western bar brawls as it could be thrown about easily and looked terrific when it was broken over the bar, or someone's head..........  ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2018, 02:57:09 am »
  I saw something the other day that had examples of PURPLE wood... it looked nice and heavy but would make some snazzy wares!

Probably Purpleheart http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2018, 04:06:00 am »
Isn't it as simple as hard wood comes from deciduous trees and softwood from evergreen?
Or is that another "truth" that will turn out to be wrong (like the one about the water going down the plug hole the other way North of the equator.

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Here we go.  Wikipedia says;

Hardwoods are produced by angiosperm trees that reproduce by flowers, and have broad leaves. Many species are deciduous. Those of temperate regions lose their leaves every autumn as temperatures fall and are dormant in the winter, but those of tropical regions may shed their leaves in response to seasonal or sporadic periods of drought. Hardwood from deciduous species, such as oak, normally shows annual growth rings, but these may be absent in some tropical hardwoods.

Hardwoods have a more complex structure than softwoods and are often much slower growing as a result. The dominant feature separating "hardwoods" from softwoods is the presence of pores, or vessels.[1] The vessels may show considerable variation in size, shape of perforation plates (simple, scalariform, reticulate, foraminate), and structure of cell wall, such as spiral thickenings.

As the name suggests, the wood from these trees is generally harder than that of softwoods, but there are significant exceptions. In both groups there is an enormous variation in actual wood hardness, with the range in density in hardwoods completely including that of softwoods; some hardwoods (e.g., balsa) are softer than most softwoods, while yew is an example of a hard softwood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardwood

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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2018, 08:16:50 am »
  I saw something the other day that had examples of PURPLE wood... it looked nice and heavy but would make some snazzy wares!

Probably Purpleheart http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/

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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2018, 08:18:42 am »
Isn't it as simple as hard wood comes from deciduous trees and softwood from evergreen?
Or is that another "truth" that will turn out to be wrong (like the one about the water going down the plug hole the other way North of the equator.

<off to google>

Here we go.  Wikipedia says;

Hardwoods are produced by angiosperm trees that reproduce by flowers, and have broad leaves. Many species are deciduous. Those of temperate regions lose their leaves every autumn as temperatures fall and are dormant in the winter, but those of tropical regions may shed their leaves in response to seasonal or sporadic periods of drought. Hardwood from deciduous species, such as oak, normally shows annual growth rings, but these may be absent in some tropical hardwoods.

Hardwoods have a more complex structure than softwoods and are often much slower growing as a result. The dominant feature separating "hardwoods" from softwoods is the presence of pores, or vessels.[1] The vessels may show considerable variation in size, shape of perforation plates (simple, scalariform, reticulate, foraminate), and structure of cell wall, such as spiral thickenings.

As the name suggests, the wood from these trees is generally harder than that of softwoods, but there are significant exceptions. In both groups there is an enormous variation in actual wood hardness, with the range in density in hardwoods completely including that of softwoods; some hardwoods (e.g., balsa) are softer than most softwoods, while yew is an example of a hard softwood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardwood



Fascinating! So it's all down to how the trees "get it on."  ;D ;D





EDIT:  Let's tack on an update real quick...      I had an amazingly brief day of work. Picked up trash from the big shopping center then mowed two lawns and made it home just shy of 9AM!!   YAY!! FANTASTIC!  Good deal, too, because I feel rather lousy. Just generally worn out and a bit nasueaus, etc. It's the humidity!! It's way high and ALWAYS makes me feel like garbage. BUT ANYWAY... yeah, I'm now home, chores done, and have allll day to work on this neat lil wing thing.

So, the PSR is all done now to best of my knowledge. It all looks great but I'll know more after the next round of primer. I have the can of that sitting out on top of the AC unit warming up and should be at operating temperature within the next half hour or so then I just have to hit this thing with a couple quick shots and see what the score is.

I feel pretty confident about it being just fine. All I had to do was smooth out the joins on the intakes and a little bit where I went wide with the glue on the bottom side fins. So, if this is good like I think it will be I'll be in paint by early afternoon.
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2018, 02:17:00 pm »
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2018, 02:20:55 pm »
Pretty.
Leave it like that.
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2018, 02:45:01 pm »
Ha!  ;D      "Pepto-Abysmol"


It does look pretty good, though. One more coat and it would be about perfect and I could leave it. I entertained thoughts of turning this whole thing pink for evening time interceptor.  ;D ;D


'Bout ready for yellow I think. I'm going to go ahead with one more coat of pink. I was about to skip it but I think I'd like to get the rest of the darker areas in the interior evened out so I can have a true result from the experiment. I'll take pictures after each coat of yeller to see what it looks like. (unless I forget, which is likely.)   ;D  I'll at least get the first coat! Not going to thin the paint any; it's about the same consistency as the pink and it went down flat enough. Helps having a nice quality, wide brush, too.
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2018, 05:30:17 pm »
After one coat:



After 3:

Still dark patches on the interior.

After 6:

Dark patches eliminated.



I definitely like pink as a base for yellow! I still had to put on a bunch of coats to really get all of the thin parts covered but that may be down to technique as much as anything. I've noticed that in painting large expanses that the interiors always even out last and darker shades persist until after numerous coats.

That's it for now, though. After so many coats I have a ridge and clean up to sand away/paint over. I'd rather this acrylic paint dry thoroughly before I do that so I'm not going to push the issue and trash this thing. There's still plenty of time left!  :thumbsup:

BUT... after some of that... I'm just going to paint the green on and leave the primer grey as it works perfectly fine for the second color of the upper camo..

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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2018, 01:49:02 am »
Looking great, keep going. :thumbsup:

I did something similar a while ago, mine was a captured aircraft though.



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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2018, 03:59:50 am »
I use white undercoat as a base for yellow.  Do you think pink is better?
Maybe I should do a side by side comparison.
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Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2018, 05:20:50 am »
Looking great, keep going. :thumbsup:

I did something similar a while ago, mine was a captured aircraft though.





Ohhh yeah!!! There we go!!  That hits the spot. They're going to be pretty similar looking if all goes as planned. Mine won't be nearly as refined and nice though!! That's some good work, there.  :mellow: :mellow:
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