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Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« on: January 25, 2018, 11:09:31 pm »
The Jumo 222 was supposed to be the vunderveapon of the Luftwaffe.  It was planned to be used to power most of the Luftwaffe's advanced projects in the early-mid war period.   However, none ever reached production and eventually, the aircraft projects were all cancelled or powered by other engines.

German projects to be powered by the Jumo 222 were, according to Wikipedia:

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*    Dornier Do 435 (when no jet engine replaced the rear piston engine)
*    Focke-Wulf Fw 300
*    Heinkel He 219B & -C
*    Heinkel He 277 (as a later Amerika Bomber-related alternative to fitting six BMW 801 radials, July 1943 development proposal only)
*    Hütter Hü 211
*    Junkers Ju 288

    Prototype proposals designed to use Jumo 222 engine power:

*    Arado E.340 (twin 222s, a Bomber B competitor)
*    Focke-Wulf Fw P.195 (six/eight Jumo 222s, very large transport aircraft)

My question is - is there a readily available Resin aftermarket conversion model of this (ie a replacement cowling)?    If so, where can I get one?
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 12:11:51 am »
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2018, 05:05:42 pm »
Only know of one in 1/48:

http://www.antaresmodels.com/php/web/index.php/seccion/detail?id=38

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Thanks.  I'd forgotten that one.  I've just sent them an email to see if they'd convert their 1/48 version to 1/72.
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 04:37:25 am »
You could try this one:

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=jumo+222



Bit expensive though.

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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 04:59:23 am »
A BIT expensive???  :o

And they have the gall to charge almost half the purchase price for postage!
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 06:03:50 am »
What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 05:45:36 am »
Only know of one in 1/48:

http://www.antaresmodels.com/php/web/index.php/seccion/detail?id=38

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Thanks.  I'd forgotten that one.  I've just sent them an email to see if they'd convert their 1/48 version to 1/72.

Just received notification that he was planning to do this sometime "in the future".  No timeline provided.   :banghead:
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 01:22:04 pm »
What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html

The Jumo 222 was a radial layout 24-cylinder engine, 6 inline banks of 4 cylinders each,
rather than a pair of V-12s hooked together.



Brian, the 222 is 1,160 mm (45.75 in) in diameter, and being circular in cross-section,
bodging up your own cowling should be fairly straightforward. Length is 2,400 mm (94.5 in).
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2018, 02:08:31 pm »
What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html

The Jumo 222 was a radial layout 24-cylinder engine, 6 inline banks of 4 cylinders each,
rather than a pair of V-12s hooked together.



Brian, the 222 is 1,160 mm (45.75 in) in diameter, and being circular in cross-section,
bodging up your own cowling should be fairly straightforward. Length is 2,400 mm (94.5 in).

I was wondering how they managed to make a liquid-cooled radial engine - can you imagine a Corsair with such an engine?
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 02:24:44 pm »
What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html

The Jumo 222 was a radial layout 24-cylinder engine, 6 inline banks of 4 cylinders each,
rather than a pair of V-12s hooked together.



Brian, the 222 is 1,160 mm (45.75 in) in diameter, and being circular in cross-section,
bodging up your own cowling should be fairly straightforward. Length is 2,400 mm (94.5 in).

I was wondering how they managed to make a liquid-cooled radial engine - can you imagine a Corsair with such an engine?

Thanks for that photo Jon, don't know what I was reading about then ----   :rolleyes:  So three V-8's on a common crank then ---  :-\
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2018, 10:15:40 pm »
Salmson had liquid cooled radials before and during WWI, no mystery to making a liquid cooled radial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmson_water-cooled_aero-engines

Anyhow the 222 isn't a true radial as the term is generally used in reference to aircraft engines,
rather it is a multi-bank engine with a radially symmetrical layout.
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2018, 10:46:10 pm »
So much like the Chrysler Multibank in the Sherman M4A4, then.

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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2018, 12:02:22 am »
A liquid cooled rotary (aircraft type, not wankel) engine would be the tricky one to build.
Picture a Sopwith Camel with radiators spinning around as well as the prop and the engine...
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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2018, 12:10:52 am »
   :rolleyes:  So three V-8's on a common crank then ---  :-\

No, rather six 4-cylinder inline engines placed around a common crankshaft. Mind-boggling, and it's no wonder that the engine was shelved and revived several times in the course of the war period.

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Re: Jumo 222 engine in 1/72
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2018, 12:22:11 pm »
A liquid cooled rotary (aircraft type, not wankel) engine would be the tricky one to build.
Picture a Sopwith Camel with radiators spinning around as well as the prop and the engine...
 :o

Nah, total loss system like the majority of steam locos.  ;D
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