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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2016, 07:28:45 am »
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I've had an airbrush for almost 20 years, and hardly use it. I enjoy my modelling time and brush painting is relaxing, and a lot less clean up  :thumbsup:
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2016, 11:47:46 am »
I painted my first model at the age of seven, using a brush(not particularly well, it must be admitted). I see no need to change now after 57 years of hairy stick wielding
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2016, 12:35:12 pm »
On painting - I hate to paint! The only thing worse is actually decalling. Too bad I'm just a little bit too interested in a somewhat "realistic" result to leave the models unpainted all together.
That said, going through the fuss of masking, setting up a spray booth, loading and cleaning a spraygun.. not a chance. I'm brushing on. Being significantly better paid now than then when I got in to this hobby at seven, I actually now sometimes even just don't bother to clean the bloody brush, should I find it be of minor quality. Not very recyclable, I'm afraid, but I compensate by working in the green energy field.. 😉

So - brush on! I'm more interested in the cutting of plastic..

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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2016, 12:23:10 am »

That said, going through the fuss of masking, setting up a spray booth, loading and cleaning a spraygun.. not a chance. I'm brushing on. Being significantly better paid now than then when I got in to this hobby at seven, I actually now sometimes even just don't bother to clean the bloody brush, should I find it be of minor quality.

I can't disagree with that statement, even though my niece has offered me a airbrush set up as my 65th present in March (not sure given my ongoing eye conditions it's worth it however ?). Where I do disagree is that I tend to buy the best quality brushes I can afford and then look after them. When they start to get a little "tired" then DeLuxe Materials Brush Magic works wonders  :thumbsup:
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2016, 03:56:28 am »
I can't disagree with that statement, even though my niece has offered me a airbrush set up as my 65th present in March (not sure given my ongoing eye conditions it's worth it however ?). Where I do disagree is that I tend to buy the best quality brushes I can afford and then look after them. When they start to get a little "tired" then DeLuxe Materials Brush Magic works wonders  :thumbsup:

Won't object to that, but what kind of brushes do you find the best?

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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2016, 07:25:14 am »
Getting back to the model at hand.........anybody have any good suggestions for camouflage measures? Somewhere in the late 1944 to early 1946 timeframe?
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2016, 06:02:55 pm »
Was the disruptive aka "dazzle" scheme still being used then?
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2016, 02:28:18 am »
I can't disagree with that statement, even though my niece has offered me a airbrush set up as my 65th present in March (not sure given my ongoing eye conditions it's worth it however ?). Where I do disagree is that I tend to buy the best quality brushes I can afford and then look after them. When they start to get a little "tired" then DeLuxe Materials Brush Magic works wonders  :thumbsup:

Won't object to that, but what kind of brushes do you find the best?

I simply go into my local stationers and browse the collection in their arts section. Flat brushes from a couple of mm up to 20mm or so (sorry to be imprecise but they are still in Imperial) and round brushes from 000 to No 4 or so
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2016, 02:32:37 am »
Was the disruptive aka "dazzle" scheme still being used then?

I didn't it was. But looking at Google perhaps it was after all ? There are some fantastic schemes on there
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2016, 07:23:41 am »
On ships, if to stay historically reasonably accurate, I think you will find that MS32 applied, which basically was a matt dark sea blue on the lower parts of the hull and a lighter sea grey over that. You might have to google ship pics as unfortunately, the otherwise fantastic www.navsource.org seems to be off line.. :(

On brushes - I was more interested in the material/straw. I find pony tail close to useless, but some of the better options are.. umm.. less than politically correct to buy, it seems.. 

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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2016, 08:43:55 am »
I'd go with whatever the battleships of the time were wearing  :thumbsup:
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2016, 02:29:53 pm »
On ships, if to stay historically reasonably accurate, I think you will find that MS32 applied, which basically was a matt dark sea blue on the lower parts of the hull and a lighter sea grey over that.

Disregard that. This is USS Missouri in 1944. She should be a reasonable template for you.


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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2016, 03:29:46 pm »
That's Measure 32, Design 22D.

See, I'm not just aeroplane modeller.  ;D

It's just that I did a few ships umpteen years ago. There's a good Wiki page on that stuff with lots of diagrams here :-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_US_Navy_dazzle_camouflage_measures_31,_32_and_33:_battleships

That one in your pic is the very last one on the page.
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2016, 03:37:13 pm »
Was the disruptive aka "dazzle" scheme still being used then?

I didn't it was. But looking at Google perhaps it was after all ? There are some fantastic schemes on there

Yep, dazzle was used in WWII.
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Re: IOWA battleship to aircraft carrier conversion.
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2016, 03:39:15 pm »
That would look awesome! Looks like there were aircraft carrier versions too. That would be worth looking up.
IIRC the dazzle painted ships were shot at more than regular one color ships but hit less often.
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