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De Havilland Sea Venom
« on: September 29, 2016, 12:26:32 pm »


I'm trying to figure out how to whif it. It will serve in the Naval Air Corps of one of the Patchwork World Dutch city-states.

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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 04:29:48 pm »
Any navy that didn't have them?  India, for example?  De-navalise it and flog it to some tin pot third world bunch?  Or keep the naval gear and flog it to the Swiss - they flew Venoms anyway and the arrestor gear would be handy for short landings whilst the folding wings mean you can hide them away in a tunnel sharpish.

Or an offset Vampire bubble canopy with the radar dude buried as a Vixen trainer?  Must have a pointy nose and the 60s paint scheme.
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 04:38:12 pm »
You know what this thread needs ? More leaves  :thumbsup:

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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 10:07:21 pm »
Or an offset Vampire bubble canopy with the radar dude buried as a Vixen trainer?  Must have a pointy nose and the 60s paint scheme.

Only if the observer is a dwarf!

Seriously though, the Aeronavale's Sea Venom-derived Aquilon came in a single-seat version but retained the original canopy.  An offset canopy a la Sea Vixen would be a legit whif in that respect.
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 02:08:07 am »
Doesn't the Observer in a Sea Venom sit slightly astern of the Pilot, presumably derived from the Nav's position in a Mossie?
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016, 04:07:17 am »
I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2016, 04:36:14 am »
I've read somewhere that the forward fuselage of the Vampire was the same diameter as that of the Mosquito.  Don't know about the Venom.

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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016, 06:01:31 am »
I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---

Certainly the T11s came off the Mossie production line. I spoke to a guy restoring the woordwork on a T11 at Duxford a while back and he said he used the same workshop manuals as he'd used to sort out a Mossie night fighter at Elvington some years previously.  :thumbsup:
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 07:07:45 am »
I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---

I to have seen that somewhere.
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2016, 07:33:15 am »
Just tagging onto this thread as I've a Sea Venom under consideration as well

General question - Can anyone confirm that the RAF night-fighter Venoms (NF.2 & NF.3) weren't 'wired-up' to carry rockets (and bombs?) in the same way as the FAA 'multi-purpose' Sea-Venoms FAW.20 etc) ?

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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2016, 10:43:35 am »
Doesn't the Observer in a Sea Venom sit slightly astern of the Pilot, presumably derived from the Nav's position in a Mossie?

Dunno about that but the Vampire T11 and Sea Venom pits are VERY tight and the slight offset in the latter is essential for radar scopes, etc.
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2016, 10:45:42 am »
I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---

I don't think so, derivation from the depth of the single seater Vampires and Venoms would have been the deciders, but the Mossie influence at least is clear to me.
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2016, 10:51:33 am »
Forward fuselages.  Will check with my Sea Venom expert and report back.  Construction principles/techniques would at least be VERY similar.

A whiffed Mosquito NF.30 front end with a Goblin engine and wings from a Vampire F1 plus NF10 booms/tailplane.  Mmm, I feel a whif coming on!
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2016, 12:40:28 pm »
....Or the other way round.

A Vampire with a Merlin in the back and a pusher prop, and VERY long undercarriage legs, needless to say.
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Re: De Havilland Sea Venom
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2016, 01:08:16 pm »
So a SAAB J21 then.  And the J21R, like the Vampire, was Goblin-powered.
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