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Re: Super Etendard Ideas
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2018, 07:03:19 am »
What about two engines for a landbased variant?  I always thought the SuE looked a bit skinny in the hips.
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Re: Super Etendard Ideas
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2018, 09:24:44 am »
Graft the back end of an F-111 on there..........
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Re: Super Etendard Ideas
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2018, 11:57:11 am »
What about two engines for a landbased variant?  I always thought the SuE looked a bit skinny in the hips.

The back end of a MiG-19 might blend in quite nicely, and you could claim the engines as Adours. They wouldn't give much more thrust (at least in a late '60s/early '70s timeframe) but the fuel consumption would be WAY better and you'd have twin-engined safety.

Alternatively, beef up the fuselage diameter, nozzle size and intake size and claim it's got a Spey. Worked for the AMX...
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Re: Super Etendard Ideas
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2018, 12:34:37 pm »
What about two engines for a landbased variant?  I always thought the SuE looked a bit skinny in the hips.

The back end of a MiG-19 might blend in quite nicely, and you could claim the engines as Adours. They wouldn't give much more thrust (at least in a late '60s/early '70s timeframe) but the fuel consumption would be WAY better and you'd have twin-engined safety.

Alternatively, beef up the fuselage diameter, nozzle size and intake size and claim it's got a Spey. Worked for the AMX...
I like your idea that would rather be a Super Etendard II ;D
http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/dassault_etendard2.php

Etendard II scratch build here ...
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Re: Super Etendard Ideas
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2018, 12:11:16 am »
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No more or less well than a forward-swept wing anything else, I'd imagine. The problem with forward-swept wings from a modelling point of view is finding one with the right aerofoil cross-section: you can't just turn a backwards-swept wing round the other way...

And, if you just cut the wings off at the root to make them sweep forward, you'll find you just lost 20-30% of your wing length.  Trimming the tip's to match the sweep angle exacerbates the problem. 

If you then extend the tips out the results are wings that are the correct length but absurdly narrow.  Since the real-world problem with forward-swept wings is tip-flex causing catastrophic flutter ...

I did once put forward-swept wings on a 1/48 Hornet, and I had to make completely new wings - the only original kit wing parts used were the strakes and the under-wing pylons and stores. 
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Might scaleoramaing 1/48 wings into 1/72 solve some of the issues?
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