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Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« on: December 25, 2014, 02:57:34 am »
We are pleased to announce that Blue Envoy Press will be producing Paul Martell-Mead and Barrie Hygateís long-awaited Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Cammís Last Fighter Projects in the Project Tech Profile series.

All at Blue Envoy would like to thank SPF members for their fantastic support and help with the Project Tech Profiles and hope that Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Cammís Last Fighter Projects meets your expectations. We hope to have it available in the summer.

Merry Christmas and all the best for 2015.

Chris, Adrian, Paul and Mike



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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2014, 03:20:15 am »
Excellent.
That's definitely on my "Will be bought list".
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2014, 03:33:22 am »
Great to see it come to fruition  :thumbsup:

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2014, 05:16:59 am »
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2014, 06:26:46 am »
Very cool. Love the shot of the two of them together. Would look awesome side by side on the tarmac as well.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2014, 07:06:16 am »
Tease!!!


Also a definite buy which will help with the group build next year.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2014, 01:45:41 am »
Great stuff. This i shall be buying.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2014, 01:20:54 am »
I'm editing some of Barrie Hygate's drawings for publication at the moment.



What is the feeling about the apparent rivets on access doors? A former Hawker engineer of my acquaintance detests rivets in 3 views - what is the general opinion?

Many of his detailed 5 view drawings are best reproduced at A3 size. They may be released as an A3 PDF supplement for purchasers of the book for printing at home - this would be especially interesting for modellers I think?


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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2014, 03:07:32 am »
Don't mistake rivets for Dzus fasteners, or vice versa.

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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2014, 03:24:20 am »
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Dzus fasteners

yep, obviously you don't rivet access panels. :banghead:

The rivets are represented by the dotted lines, I think, while the prominent dots are fasteners.
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2014, 03:29:04 am »
I dunno: I can see why people think they're too prominent and/or make the plane look "boilerplated" in the drawing, but then from a practical point of view, it's more information, i.e. it's better for a modeller to know that they're there rather than not, and within the limits of resolution, there might be no option but to make them over-prominent.

I spotted a few other things in that drawing. I can't say that they're definately wrong (what do I know?) but they certainly caught my attention as odd.



1 +2 : It looks as though the innermost panel line on the wing extends across the root fairing. This looks odd: I'd have thought the faring would cover the wing, and even if it did have panel lines, would they really be in those positions?

3 : Does this panel line really stop dead in the middle of a panel? It might do, but again, it looks odd. There are multiple examples of this on similar panels on both wings.

4 : Should this parallellogram-shaped panel have a continuation of one of the normal panel lines cutting across it's tip? Again, there might be some reason to build it that way, but it leaps out.

EDIT : just read your reply and 3 & 4 make more sense if they're lines of rivets in the middle of panels rather than actual panel edges.
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2014, 04:52:27 am »
hmm, this I like.
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2014, 11:44:55 am »
Thanks. I didn't draw the drawings, but I will certainly take the comments on board.   
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Re: Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2015, 02:52:01 am »
Update on progress:

Text is done, images being finalised and layout underway. Not too long now.
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OK - so - book is scheduled for release 2 November.

I have a place for photo of a P.1121 model built from a commercial kit. Best photo & model wins.
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