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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2014, 11:21:33 pm »
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2014, 07:10:19 am »
I have sourced the kit, so I can get started when I get the current 3 completed
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2014, 02:13:39 pm »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2014, 04:11:04 pm »
got a instesting idea for a 1944 build, more to come once i win some ebay kits
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2014, 05:13:02 pm »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....

HERETIC! Burn him at the stake!
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings

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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2014, 05:35:49 pm »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....

Still need big long stabilizers!  ;D
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2014, 06:23:25 pm »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....

I had a thought recently that anti-gravity would be more interesting if it was possible but awkward. In most sci-fi, it's either not there at all, or it's too easy: perfect handwavium that keeps people glued to the decks in spaceships or flying through the air in supersonic bricks without consequence or attention.

I won't get too far into thread drift with my original idea (huge vertical towers), but what if anti-gravity needed two large "opposite pole" units, equidistant from the payload, with a relatively low power consumption and payload capacity but an inconvenient minimum distance? In practice, this means that even a small, single-seat craft needs a pair of ten feet diameter generators on the end of 40 feet long poles sticking out of either side. Kit's long wings would be universally replaced by long "dumbells"..... :wacko: ;D
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2014, 01:56:48 am »
HERETIC! Burn him at the stake!

Or bound to a long wing!  ;)

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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2014, 02:10:19 am »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....

HERETIC! Burn him at the stake!

Every organisation needs a court jester.  I will charitably assume that this was meant in an ironic fashion.  As to anti-grav, "SPACE 1889" posits "liftwood" as a means of aviating on Mars.  Some good steampunk potential there.
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2014, 04:30:10 am »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....

Or ANY wings at all!  :rolleyes:

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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2014, 04:58:51 am »
Long wings would still be necessary in case there is a failure of the anti-grav system. If there's a failure you don't want to be cruising at FL900 and have wings the size of an F-104.  :o
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2014, 06:31:32 am »
True, the safety case for ant-gravity flight would be rather difficult to prove.
Mind you they somehow managed with jet powered, passenger carrying, heavier than air flight. Consider this :

You lock anything up to 500 passengers in an Aluminium (Aluminum to our American friends) tube.
You add bits sticking out the side (lets call them wings) and fill them with a volatile liquid. This liquid is the fuel for two or four hot air blowers that you also mount on these “wings” (lets call them jet engines).
Then you place the whole contraption at the end of a long strip of concrete or tarmac, and allow it to accelerate due to the thrust output by the jet engines.
Then you hope and pray that before it reaches the end of this long strip it will somehow defy gravity and rise safely into the air.
The alternative is large fireball at the end of the strip with accompaniment of tearing rending metal, snapping of bones, burning flesh, and dying screams from tortured throats.

Jet powered passenger carrying heavier than air flight –

I think NOT!
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2014, 10:23:53 am »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....

HERETIC! Burn him at the stake!

Oh come on; it wasn't that bad a thought
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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2014, 10:35:49 am »
True, the safety case for ant-gravity flight would be rather difficult to prove.
Mind you they somehow managed with jet powered, passenger carrying, heavier than air flight. Consider this :

You lock anything up to 500 passengers in an Aluminium (Aluminum to our American friends) tube.
You add bits sticking out the side (lets call them wings) and fill them with a volatile liquid. This liquid is the fuel for two or four hot air blowers that you also mount on these “wings” (lets call them jet engines).
Then you place the whole contraption at the end of a long strip of concrete or tarmac, and allow it to accelerate due to the thrust output by the jet engines.
Then you hope and pray that before it reaches the end of this long strip it will somehow defy gravity and rise safely into the air.
The alternative is large fireball at the end of the strip with accompaniment of tearing rending metal, snapping of bones, burning flesh, and dying screams from tortured throats.

Jet powered passenger carrying heavier than air flight –

I think NOT!


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Re: Following in the footsteps of the P.R.19 - the idea
« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2014, 04:31:02 pm »
SO I had a though while I was studying this afternoon - What if due to the introduction of anit-grav technology there was no longet a need for big, long wings??? - Discuss....

HERETIC! Burn him at the stake!

Oh come on; it wasn't that bad a thought

 ;D :lol:
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings

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