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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2160 on: October 05, 2018, 06:06:30 am »
Hopefully (it's amazing how often I use that word in my blog/build posts  :-\) get the transfers on the SAI 207 in the next couple of days

Well I've started getting them on. I forgot how thin RS's are and how quickly they come off the backing paper, one wiff of water and they are off. Being thin you have to be a little careful with them, but overall they behave well.

I'm actually a little undecided as to whether the aircraft I am building is a Wif or not. RS give the impression on the box that the 3 options they offer are real world aircraft and indeed 13 out of an initial order for 2,000 were built. The contract was then replaced by an order for 4,000 of the improved S.A.I.403. So did some of the pre-production aircraft see service ? I need to do some research to try and find out. I think an e-mail to the leader of SIG Italia of which I'm a member is in order  ;)

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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2161 on: October 05, 2018, 02:04:35 pm »
According to Italian Civil and Military Aircraft 1930 - 1945,
Jonathan Thompson, Aero Publishers 1963; pg.15:
“Three S.A.I. 207 equipped the 3º Stormo C.T. at Ciampino and
Cerveteri in July, 1943.”
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2162 on: October 06, 2018, 01:51:31 am »
According to Italian Civil and Military Aircraft 1930 - 1945,
Jonathan Thompson, Aero Publishers 1963; pg.15:
“Three S.A.I. 207 equipped the 3º Stormo C.T. at Ciampino and
Cerveteri in July, 1943.”

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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2163 on: October 06, 2018, 03:50:02 am »
According to Italian Civil and Military Aircraft 1930 - 1945,
Jonathan Thompson, Aero Publishers 1963; pg.15:
“Three S.A.I. 207 equipped the 3º Stormo C.T. at Ciampino and
Cerveteri in July, 1943.”

Thanks Jon  :thumbsup:

Means the aircraft I'm building is real world.

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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2164 on: October 07, 2018, 06:06:21 am »
According to Italian Civil and Military Aircraft 1930 - 1945,
Jonathan Thompson, Aero Publishers 1963; pg.15:
“Three S.A.I. 207 equipped the 3º Stormo C.T. at Ciampino and
Cerveteri in July, 1943.”

Thanks Jon  :thumbsup:

Means the aircraft I'm building is real world.

HERETIC!
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But surely they were among the very first "What Iffers" ?  :angel: ;)
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2165 on: October 08, 2018, 06:35:30 am »
Making good progress with the S.A.I. indeed she should be done by the end of this week, touch wood. I'm trying out something new with the canopy framing and first dabs it looks as those it could be a useful tool in helping me deal with one of my extreme weaknesses. The canopy it'self is tiny and with its framing completely neggates the work I did in the cockpit. Still I know it's there  :angel:

Here's my latest two - the Mohawk and Whirlwind which have their own threads over on the RAF 100 GB strand.




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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2166 on: October 12, 2018, 05:53:10 am »
Well the S.A.I. is at the varnish stage so she will go to the ball this weekend.  :thumbsup:

I've also been reading up a little bit about the design as I thought the armament of two 12.7mm Breda m.g.'s was a little light for 1943 and it turns out that it was designed to have two 20mm Mauser's as well. Now the production run of 3,000 was cancelled after only 13 had been produced and the order was transferred to the improved S.A.I.403, so the aircraft I have modeled is one of the pre-production aircraft which didn't have the cannon fitted.

Now the 403 is an interesting aircraft. With it's relatively heavy armament of two x 20mm and two x 12.7mm guns, a top speed of 403 mph at 23,000 feet and its tiny size it may well have proved a useful fighter. So I will be on the look out for the RS model of it at Telford.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2167 on: October 13, 2018, 02:07:35 am »
The 207 is finished  :thumbsup: I'll stick a couple of photo's of her up when I've taken them.

She was a really enjoyable build. Must admit I like RS and AZ. Their recent kits build well whilst still offering a little bit of a challenge, at least in the thinking department  :thumbsup:
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2168 on: October 14, 2018, 07:07:50 am »
Here's a couple of shots of the S.A.I.207.

Ambrosini S.A.I. 207 of 3rd Stormo, R.A.I. based at Cervateri, Italy in the summer of 1943.





Comparison with a Mohawk to show its size



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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2169 on: October 14, 2018, 07:16:34 am »
Got back to working on my IBG Models PZL 42
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As I've said before it is a superb kit with excellent levels of detail and great fit. The only problem, if you can call it a problem, is that the parts are so finely moulded which means you have to handle them with great care. One upside of this fine casting is that the sprue gates are tiny and don't impinge on the parts themeselves at all  :thumbsup:

I've just about got all the innards including etch fitted so I'm ready to close her up and watch most of it disappear, probably  :-X  To be honest I'm a little bit sceptical of IBG's suggested method of closing the fuselage, but we shall see.

One odd one is why do manufacturers who include an etch sheet with their kits quite often don't include the seat belts on it ?  :banghead:

All bodes well for their Los which hopefully is on its way to me now.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2170 on: October 15, 2018, 06:16:14 am »

I've just about got all the innards including etch fitted so I'm ready to close her up and watch most of it disappear, probably  :-X  To be honest I'm a little bit sceptical of IBG's suggested method of closing the fuselage, but we shall see.



Interestingly looking at the instructions for their PZL 23 they show a different assembly procedure which is the same one I'm thinking of using. So given the kits came out at the same time they must have thought there was a reason to be different ? Anyway I'm going to procede slowly with this just in case.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2171 on: October 17, 2018, 06:19:55 am »
Right after a little bit of a struggle I now have a completed PZL.42 airframe.

The kit has some very precisely moulded parts which in some cases use tiny tongue and grooves as location points. Now these require very accurate assembly (and no paint on the joining faces, otherwise they won't fit) and my eyesight problems mean that I'm not up to this standard. The main problems I have, as far as modeling are concerned, are to do with depth perception and the centering of things, and they are not going to go away  :-\

So as said I'd already decided to depart from IBG's recommended assembly order and fit the fuselage halves together and then fit that over the wing assembly which has the cockpit fitted to it. That was giving me a fit problem with the wing/fuselage joint so I removed the cockpit from the floor and inserted that into the fuselage from below. It's tight, but you can get those tiny tongue and grooves to mate. I then fitted the upper cockpit framework from above. Again it's tight but just a small bit of pressure and it's in. Finally I secured the wing assembly and the wing root joint gap had almost disappeared, a little PPP and that will be it.

So with a little bit of experimentation I got there and it's all fine and I'm forewarned for the 23, indeed I've made some notes and slipped them in its box  :thumbsup: I'm also quite sure these "problems" are not down to the kit, but are down to my current ability level. Has it put me off the kit ? No way, indeed I'm looking forward to moving on now  :thumbsup:

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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2172 on: October 22, 2018, 06:30:56 am »
With things on the current builds progressing (touching wood as I type) I dug out a couple of simpler builds to do next, probably post Telford/Xmas build up.

So they will be an Airfix Mk I Hurricane, Battle of Britain, but with Freightdog 20mm cannon that were trialed on them. The other is an RS Models Hs 132A. Probably do her Luftwaffe (although an ANR one with 3 colour uppers is calling to me). We shall see.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2173 on: October 23, 2018, 02:34:36 am »
The other is an RS Models Hs 132A.

Nothing on the telly last night, so I started on this after some p.s.r. on the Vickers. Looks quite nice on the sprues, some rather prominent knockout pins but they are easy enough to remove. It's been moulded with both types of engines planed for the type, so you could model the "B" as well as the "A" as boxed. Some flash but nothing to onerous. The only bit of iffy moulding is the recess for the bomb. It doesn't match up when you align the fuselage halves. The fuselage is fine, but the recess it'self is shorter one side then t'other, and by a fair bit  :banghead: Might be easier to fill it in and use a normal bomb rack.

Anyway a fair few sub assemblies have been put together and it's going together well so far.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2174 on: October 26, 2018, 06:04:37 am »
Well work continues at a gentleman's pace on the PZL, but I think we are ready for paint now  :thumbsup:

Meanwhile work on the Hs.132 continues at a slightly more hectic pace and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I've decided I like RS Models, the more recent tooling's in particular. Go together well, but with just a little bit of a "challenge" to the build so you don't get to blase about the things. Shall be looking for some more at Telford including their new tool B&V 607 if it's out.
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