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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1785 on: August 12, 2017, 07:43:34 am »

It is a bit of a curates egg. The 2 sprues seem to have been tooled by different tool makers ? Even the plastic is different. The fuselage sprue is shiny whilst the wings etc are matt and with much finer detail. Fitted the tail fin last night (they give you both the prototype and the production version) and its a great fit.


That's odd, both the sprues in mine look very similar, even the gates have the same amount of flash on them. Mine's an F1 kit, but mentions that the FB2 used the big tank, but it only has the F1 canopy.

I've been finding that with a few of these eastern European manufacturers. The two Siga FJ-1 Furys I've been using for my Twin Fury project were just as you describe Chris. From the vertical fuselage joining face of one fuselage half right to the wing tip that joins that fuselage half, the port side is completely different to the starboard side. You'd think they would be symmetrical wouldn't you ----  The parts for two Siga kits though are the same in both boxes so it's a mould manufacturing problem.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1786 on: August 12, 2017, 03:43:07 pm »
The AZ Attacker, like their Spiteful and Seafang, used the CMR kits as masters.  And the latter were pretty awful kits.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1787 on: August 13, 2017, 05:26:53 am »
The AZ Attacker, like their Spiteful and Seafang, used the CMR kits as masters.  And the latter were pretty awful kits.

I felt sure they had for the Attacker and that was the only CMR kit I've ever given up on  :banghead: In fairness, apart from the fuselage difference (easily fixed) this is a far better fit.


That's odd, both the sprues in mine look very similar, even the gates have the same amount of flash on them. Mine's an F1 kit, but mentions that the FB2 used the big tank, but it only has the F1 canopy.

Odder and odder. Mines the F.1 boxing as well.

I must admit that when it comes to AZ their kits are a bit of a mix. The Me 109's are excellent, almost mainstream standard. Others are not so hot, all buildable mind you. It's almost as though the designers etc have favourites which get all their attention and then other types which they don't like so much are dealt with more haphazardly ?
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1788 on: August 13, 2017, 05:33:42 am »
Anyway the Beaufighter has got to the point of getting her transfers. I reached the point where the Law of Diminishing Returns kicked in. This for me when building a model is when the build becomes hard work and not enjoyable. I know there are a couple of really tiny areas where I should re-mask and re-paint, but they are miniscule and to me it's just not worth it. Sorry if it offends but it's a hobby not life it'self.

The Hein has had her underside painted. I again had trouble with the Tamiya paint, it seemed to be drying almost on the brush  :banghead: I ended up thinning the stuff in its pot with Tamiya's thinner and that made it far better. Still not great but better.

I did learn one thing yesterday. I tried to model whilst listening to Palace on the radio  :banghead: Lets just say the Beaufighter nearly went for it's maiden flight  ;) Won't be doing that again.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1789 on: August 13, 2017, 05:44:35 am »

I've been finding that with a few of these eastern European manufacturers.

When the then Czechoslovakia was joining the E.U. I was at a meeting in Prague and referred to Eastern Europe. I was very quickly shown a map and it was pointed out how much of the then Czechoslovakia was farther west then a chunk of Germany. They were being serious as well. I always used the term "Central Europe" after that  ;) ;D
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1790 on: August 13, 2017, 06:29:19 am »
The AZ Attacker, like their Spiteful and Seafang, used the CMR kits as masters.  And the latter were pretty awful kits.

I've got the Spiteful and Seafang, what's also really odd about them is the Spiteful is smaller than the Seafang, I think it's about 1/75 scale. When comparing the Seafang with one of the latest Airfix Spitfires, they're very close ---
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1791 on: August 17, 2017, 06:09:46 am »
Bit of a medical week which has slowed but progress but have made some on all current projects. Even had a look see for my next builds  ;D

The main progress has been on the Beaufighter which now has all its transfers. Took a while as there were a fair few stencils. For once I actually used all of them  ;) I think it's because I tackled it in 4 stages and the bonus is that because of the scheme they are quite visable.

Got me thinking about stencils as I normally only use the more obvious ones and I started to think that some day soon one of the major Far Eastern producers will advertise a kit "with full internal detail inc. full stencil data"  :o For all I know one may already do that, but I was just remembering when putting transfers on a model involved 6 to 10 pieces and took all of 20 mins.  ;D
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1792 on: August 17, 2017, 06:23:34 am »
Goodness knows how  many the forthcoming Airfix Phantom will have.  :o
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« Reply #1793 on: August 17, 2017, 06:33:21 am »
I've seen the placement sheet and the number looks incredible  :banghead:

The Japanese Phantoms always seem to have more then any other nation's to me. Probably just the scheme but they always look like flying billboards.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1794 on: August 17, 2017, 07:49:44 am »
Having seen a FAA Phantom still in its original scheme you can see that every panel virtually has a stencil on it in one form or another. It makes the repainted one look slightly odd as they only put the minimal stencils on when they repainted the aircraft from its RAF ADV scheme to 892 FAA scheme.

(they should ask Airfix to scale up the stencil sheet to 1/1 scale to print out and apply to the real aircraft  ;) )
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1795 on: August 17, 2017, 07:53:39 am »
Perhaps the Japanese Phantoms have the stencilling in English and Kanji too? Double the number!  :o
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1796 on: August 18, 2017, 06:31:30 am »
Slow progress continues.

The Beaufighter has had some coast of satin varnish and her masking removed. I took a more traditional approach with the canopies on this one in that I masked them, using an Eduard sheet I found I had, and then fitting them and then painting them when I did the fuselage. Not bad results but unless I have or get an Eduard sheet I will stick with my painted masking tape method. I'm absolutely useless at masking canopies, don't know why but I just am  :banghead:

The Hein has had her uppers painted and the masking for the yellow leading edges removed. Come out o.k.  :thumbsup:

Both of these are now on finals, but the finals for the Beau' will take a while I think.

The Claude has been primed and still needs some more p.s.r.

The Attacker needs some work on a wing root so as the wing is a tad deeper than the root I've used some thin micro strip which I've moulded (using liquid glue) into the root and will sand this to fair them together over the weekend hopefully.

Decided my next project will be twin engined, real world and quite large. So I've got my Airfix Whitley out. This was my free kit for completing their totally boring market research lately. It was more like a physiological test for the modeler than more usual p.r. and is 30mins of my life I'll never get back  :banghead:
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1797 on: August 18, 2017, 01:31:38 pm »
I have 30 minutes to burn from time to time! Where I can sign up for the boring market research?  ;D   (kidding, mainly, ..probably not even available to us in the States) 

DEFINITELY with you on masking canopies. I'd rather have slightly squiggly lines (even if after toothpicks) than try to mask. I don't see how people have the patience and stamina to mask certain things. Eduard masks look like treasure with sun beams coming off and harp music being strummed by an angel. Glad to hear you say they work well.. I like first hand info. I'm going to be using some on a couple kits myself I've been wondering.
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« Reply #1798 on: August 19, 2017, 02:07:41 am »
I still have a slight problem even with Eduard masks but that's purely down to my current eye problem. It causes me to misalign things slightly, but they are still good.

My preferred method is to use strips of painted masking tape. I have tape down to 0.5mm in width which I paint in the desired colour then measure and place on the canopy as frames. Coat of Klear and it works for me  :thumbsup: The most used widths I find are 0.5mm and 0.75mm.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #1799 on: August 19, 2017, 03:03:05 am »
Perhaps the Japanese Phantoms have the stencilling in English and Kanji too? Double the number!  :o

Have you seen them on their aggressor F-15's! They aggressor paint finish is applied around such things as stencils so you have lots of little areas of grey with the stencils on them surrounded by the new colours. Must be a nightmare for the paint shop to mask up!   :o

Masking canopies has got nothing on those guys.

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