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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2009, 05:54:46 am »
Thanks for your speedy response Weaver!! ;D

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 07:56:52 am »
Thanks for your speedy response Weaver!! ;D

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2009, 05:27:42 am »
84mm HEAT round


A particularly pernicious round that.  Very prone to blinds and because of the sensitive - extremely sensitive piezo-electric fuse in the long nose probe, very dangerous to dispose of if it misses its target.  Its known to be set off by a shadow falling over it (the sudden temperature change can be sufficient to create an electric current in the fuse and set off the round).  Disposed of a few as EOD.  Never liked particularly liked them.

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We find it a common problem with the HEAT round alright, especially when firing at a very high deflective angle  - which often results in the stand-off probe bending and not setting of the det!
Also the fact that the HEAT round likes to skim along the ground and not detonating!

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As I indicated in my last (above) the round I am interested in that we do not use I have circled!
Do you know what round it is??

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I see Weaver has already answered your question.  I must admit I don't know what the round designation is but just from looking at the design I'd have suggested that it was a HEAT round with a small precursor warhead for detonating reactive armour.  Appears, from what Weaver has posted, I would have been right.
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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 08:09:27 am »
I have often wondered if the Marines on South Georgia had put 2-3 more 84mm rounds into the Guericco. Or if one had detonated on an exocet canister?

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2013, 08:18:15 am »
I have often wondered if the Marines on South Georgia had put 2-3 more 84mm rounds into the Guericco. Or if one had detonated on an exocet canister?

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 08:45:20 am »
I have often wondered if the Marines on South Georgia had put 2-3 more 84mm rounds into the Guericco. Or if one had detonated on an exocet canister?

They would not have been carrying an Exocet on the sub.

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 08:48:42 am »
Carl Gustav?
Never handled one ... but I learned to shoot (and carry) a "55 S 55" recoilless anti-tank weapon before I was taught to use LAW 72.
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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2013, 09:43:54 am »
I have often wondered if the Marines on South Georgia had put 2-3 more 84mm rounds into the Guericco. Or if one had detonated on an exocet canister?

They would not have been carrying an Exocet on the sub.

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Gureicco was the Corvette they sent into the harbour with the invasion force one of the French A69 class built for South Africa but sold onto Argentina when sanctions hit. It was hit by small arms fire from the Endurance RM party sent to defend the Island as they also manged to down a Puma at the same time.

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2013, 01:36:56 pm »
Operation Paraquat some weeks later

It was Operation Paraquet (named after the bird) - though we called it "Paraquat" after the weedkiller - maybe someone at MoD had a sense of humour?

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2013, 11:57:40 am »
I have often wondered if the Marines on South Georgia had put 2-3 more 84mm rounds into the Guericco. Or if one had detonated on an exocet canister?

They would not have been carrying an Exocet on the sub.

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Gureicco was the Corvette they sent into the harbour with the invasion force one of the French A69 class built for South Africa but sold onto Argentina when sanctions hit. It was hit by small arms fire from the Endurance RM party sent to defend the Island as they also manged to down a Puma at the same time.

Santa Fe was the Guppy class sub damaged by the Wessexs (Humphrey) and Wasp helicopters from the liberation force in Operation Paraquat some weeks later

Some how Thorvic I either missed or never heard of that part of the action down south :(

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2014, 10:49:09 am »
I remember using the 84 at otterburn we were only firing TP-TP but the blast was impressive from the venture. I always thought the British army was very shortsighted retiring it new ammo would have made the weapon more flexible. Having now read the manual the Army hoped to get HE rounds as well as HEAT.


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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2014, 12:19:41 pm »
We used to find bits ( of what I assumed were ) Gustav's around Camp Borden when we were kids. Regardless, I wished I had kept half of the stuff we found when we were 'out on patrol'. Good to see she's still out there working !

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Re: Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle
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