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Started by JayBee, August 10, 2009, 01:05:24 PM

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JayBee

SALSA :-

NOT THE DANCE,

NOT THE FOOD,

BUT..............

Back in April this year (2009) GTX/Greg posted the question on this forum :

"If Pavel Sukhoi was to come to the West and all Sukhoi's are Western, which Country should he be based in?"

Here's the link :  http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,23982.0/highlight,pavel+sukhoi.html

You will see in that thread that the voting went for him coming to the U.K.

You will also see my suggestion that he eventually came to an independent Scotland, and worked for/with Scottish Aviation Ltd. at Prestwick.

The actual timeline of when and where he went I leave to Greg to explain, but suffice to say he arrived in Prestwick post WW2.
Having joined SAL he was involved with the development of the Pioneer 1, and later with the Twin Pioneer. He subsequently went on to design aircraft that were more his than anyone else's. The final design, before his death, was to prove the best of all with to date more than five and a half thousand being produced world wide, and it is still in production.

This was known as the Scottish Aviation Ltd., Sukhoi, Airtruck.

Or as it was commonly known, the SALSA.

It is a smallish general transport aircraft which can seat, in passenger mode, twelve passengers, or in military mode eight paratroops. It is fully capable of air-dropping cargo. Of a high wing configuration, with a T-tail, and fixed tricycle undercarriage, it was designed that a standard flat-bed truck could reverse up to the loading door and load/unload cargo without the use of specialist equipment.
The prototype, and series 1production aircraft were turbo-prop powered, and of these some twelve hundred were produced.
Then came the series 2, which was a jet derivative.
The current production model is the series 3, which has a completely new avionics system and glass cockpit designed by the Israeli company Rafael.
Operating crews state that it is a wonderful system but with one slight niggle.
When they boot up the system it has a rather irritating jingle which goes
" Dinga, Dinga, Dinga"
Link for those who do not understand that :
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,23657.0.html

Building the model.

This was a bit of a departure for me, as since getting back into modelling, thanks to this forum, I have tended to stick to models that have a definite plausibility in the RW.
This one does not.

Roundabout the time that GTX/Greg posted his question, somebody mentioned, on the forum, that the Matchbox/Revel Do-28 Skyservant was just such good WhIf fodder.
I had never built one of those kits, and so the old mental processes started working.

AND, this is where it went...................................................

Watch this space for the more!
Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

JayBee

Main components:-

Main kit - Revel/Matchbox Dornier Do-28 Skyservant.
Undercarriage - Revel/Matchbox Twin Otter.
Tailplane - Wings from Tamiya 1/100 scale Me-163.
Engiones - Hasegawa 1/200 scale Tristar.
Plasticard,
&
PSR, PSR, PSR.

First to be attacked was the fuselage.
Glue the two door halves in place, then fill them in with putty, also the 'corrugated' effect either side of the cockpit, and the fin.
Cut off and fill the bits for the kit undercarriage/engine mountings.
PSR,PSR,PSR.



Next was the new sliding door and it's rails. This was so that the aircraft would be able to airdrop stuff, the original doors opened like a pair of French windows, and could not be opened in flight.






Then it was time for the cockpit interior. Two military pilots, and the instrument panel painted up to represent a glass cockpit.
Also, extra nose weight was added by building a box of plasticard, filling it with lead shot, and painting it to look like a wooden crate.



Next , the fuselage was glued up and left to set, while the new fin and rudder was created from plasticard and putty.
The shape closely mirrors that of the Su-27 'Flanker'





Once that was in place, and had set.
More PSR, PSR, PSR.





Then it is primer, and PSR, etc for the fuselage while attention is turned to the wings and tailplanes.



That's it for the moment.
Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

Taiidantomcat

"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gaultier

"My model is right! It's the real world that's wrong!" -global warming scientist

An armor guy, who builds airplanes almost exclusively, that he converts to space fighters-- all while admiring ship models.

philp

Jim,
Can't wait to see the rest of it.
Phil Peterson

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Captain Canada

Wow....that's some excellent work you've done so far, and a highly entertaining read ! It's a real treat to see something so far off the beaten track....can't wait to see some more !

:cheers:
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?

Modelling_Mushi

Intersting and different, looking forward to seeing the finished product.

Must say that this :

Quote from: JayBee on August 11, 2009, 09:30:04 AM
Also, extra nose weight was added by building a box of plasticard, filling it with lead shot, and painting it to look like a wooden crate.

is a very good trick to sort out a tailsitter, well done!
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Quote from: Modelling_Mushi on August 12, 2009, 04:19:41 AM
Intersting and different, looking forward to seeing the finished product.

Must say that this :

Quote from: JayBee on August 11, 2009, 09:30:04 AM
Also, extra nose weight was added by building a box of plasticard, filling it with lead shot, and painting it to look like a wooden crate.

is a very good trick to sort out a tailsitter, well done!

Oh, I agree...... ;) (I should point out that JayBee had the idea independently and first.)



It's a great project JayBee: looking forward to the end result!  :thumbsup:

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JayBee


Oh, I agree...... ;) (I should point out that JayBee had the idea independently and first.)



It's a great project JayBee: looking forward to the end result!  :thumbsup:


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Who knows who was first, BUT I certainly lost out in the competition for the humorous stencilling. I bow to the master.:bow:
Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

JayBee

#8
Next was the wings and tailplane.
The tailplane is an all-flying tail and has fixed inverted slots on the leading edge, like late Phantoms had. This is to prevent tailplane stall when in super STOL mode.
For this I used the wings from a Tamiya 1/100 scale Me-163B Komet, reshaped slightly, and mounted upside down.
Then I decided that the wingtips needed changeing. I had a lot of different ideas for this area but in the end decided to just extend the trailing edge to make the wing look more regular.
This was done by cutting a slot into the kit trailing edge with a saw and glueing in a piece oc plasticard. When dry, this was trimmed to shape, then it was PSR time again.





Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

Captain Canada

Woah...does that ever change the look !
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?

JayBee

So far it looks like it is a glider, so we need engines.
These came from a Hasegawa, 1/200 scale, Tristar.
My original plan was to trim the pylons to fit, and mount them over-wing, but the shape of the front of the cowlings did not look right.
So after a bit of thought, and searching Airliners.net (link: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Antonov-An-72P/1419556/L/&sid=238b507f5aa8c465395eec8e6d9890b2) this is where I got to.



I had to sand a lot more out of that wing than I had expected to! :o
Thank you mister DREMEL.



Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

ChernayaAkula

Dayummmnnn, that's cool! :o :thumbsup:
Cheers,
Moritz


Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

philp

It gets even cooler (I had a sneak peek  :thumbsup:)
Phil Peterson

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lancer

That beauty is screaming out for floats/seaplane conversion... Brilliant engine placement!
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JayBee

Well Lancer, of course SAL designed the aircraft to be able to be converted to floatplane configuration, and the EDO corporation in the good ole' US of A produced an amphibious float conversion for it. It also uses skis.

However this particular example is going to have wheels.

I used the undercarriage from a Matchbox Twin otter. At first I planned just to glue the u/c main legs directly on to the lower fuselage sides, but as soon as I had done the first one, I realised that there would be insufficient ground clearance for the aircraft to rotate when doing a really short T/O.
So I had to use the fairings from the Twotter.
This almost ended the project as the fuselage cross-sections of the Twotter and Do-28 are WAY different.
This meant that there was a lot of reshaping, carving, sanding, and ultimately PSR, LOTS of PSR.
In the end, I persevered and ended up with this.




Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!